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Being told to go the pharmacy for cystitis by doctor receptionist

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Musica7474 · 12/04/2024 08:58

I have cystitis. I’ve had it before and had different anti biotic for it- sometimes 2 as it has been resistant to treat.

Ive left it to try and sort it self out for a few days by doing all the right things. It hasn’t.

Receptionist told me pharmacies now deal with cystitis and will advise me. I don’t need advice and I don’t want to be talking about my wee and symptoms in a packed pharmacy.

The receptionist made me feel awful for not wanting to go to the pharmacy and insisting on a doctor’s call( I’d have been happy with a prescription being left at the desk and no call just a gp looking at my records to check which anti biotic is best for me). She said I could have a call this time.🤔

Cystis can be really unpleasant and not great if not treated . Anti biotic are expensive and it’s not great to take several, I don’t think women should be made to feel like shit for wanting treatment for it and a gp to look at her records.

OP posts:
PixieLaLar · 15/04/2024 21:52

Musica7474 · 15/04/2024 20:35

Oh do give over. The last time I had it I didn’t know a new scheme would come in. You need different meds for diff bugs, it’s not that simple. Because I get it a fair bit, can sometimes get rid of it without bothering anyone but when I can’t I feel really grim and can struggle to get rid of it even with anti Bs, then don’t feel that great after anti Bs, I would like to discuss alternative options with a GP have him/ her look through my history. I have a full time job and can’t have time off to fanny(if you’ll pardon the pin) around from pharmacy back to GP

It’s a choice so I can. I use the pharmacy for all the other things listed and my GP a lot less than most and have paid my tax and NI for many years so I’m happy with that.

See this is my point you are missing. How do you not know the antibiotics that do/don’t work for you? It’s like you don’t want to take responsibility for your own healthcare needs.

I can’t stand this “I pay my NI and taxes so therefore I am owed this service” attitude.

How about you take some accountably for your own healthcare needs. Is it really that difficult to remember a name of an antibiotic that works for you?! No wonder the NHS is in the state it is going by this thread.

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/04/2024 21:59

CultOfRamen · 15/04/2024 21:47

The point is that the pittance of national insurance each of you pays clearly can’t afford the health service you expect.

therefore you need to lower your expectations and be grateful that you have a free healthcare system. Because it is free, at the point of usage.

when I lived in the UK I worked for a CCG and in a GP surgery and the user wastage of the NHS was abonimnable, missed appts, unnecessary repeat scripts- which you can guarantee people wouldn’t do if they had to pay at the point of usage. Don’t even get me started on the heinous treatment of reception staff.

demanding to see a GP (probably that day) for every minor ailment instead of accepting a perfectly fit for purpose appt with a trained pharmacist is entitlement.

But it wasn’t a perfectly fit for purpose appointment because the PGD is for uncomplicated UTIs not complicated ones. So the appropriate person to see in the OPs case is the GP.

Italianita · 16/04/2024 03:27

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Musica7474 · 16/04/2024 07:37

PixieLaLar · 15/04/2024 21:52

See this is my point you are missing. How do you not know the antibiotics that do/don’t work for you? It’s like you don’t want to take responsibility for your own healthcare needs.

I can’t stand this “I pay my NI and taxes so therefore I am owed this service” attitude.

How about you take some accountably for your own healthcare needs. Is it really that difficult to remember a name of an antibiotic that works for you?! No wonder the NHS is in the state it is going by this thread.

You’rd being ridiculous now . I’ve had 2 or 3 that worked as had a few. I didn’t memorise them as didn’t think the revisionist would give me incorrect info re my history.You also need different ones for different bugs. I’m not a GP and don’t know what is best for what or the best plan for me not to take 2 or 3 for this bug unnecessarily. Anti bs make me feel ill and wipe me out. Also it’s all a moot point- the pharmacy would not treat me as I’ve already had Cystis before this year. Hell they wouldn’t give me conjunctivitis drops the last time I went in and asked because I’m a contact lens wearer😳( I promised I take them out). Took full accountability as went through discomfort and tried to self treat for a good period of time. I also try to look after myself,use the pharmacy when I can and it is appropriate and don’t visit the GP a lot.

OP posts:
MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 16/04/2024 07:47

We used the pharmacy service recently for DS, tonsillitis at the weekend we were due to go away Sunday evening (to family) , saw pharmacist Sunday at about 11am, she prescribed the antibiotics he's had the last two times as she correctly deducted he'd had multiple courses previously gets it recurrently and the GP seems to have moved him on to this one. She also gave it to us in powder form with instructions for how much water to add, so we could do it when we got there and put it straight in the fridge. Very very helpful. She was very open to discussing with us what the GP had tried previously if we wanted to watch and wait but couldn't because of going away to give the unmade up medicine etc. She also said she will update his medical record. Excellent service. The only thing I'd say is that any pharmacy offering this should have a treatment room for privacy, they did, it was previously used for vaccinations.

Italianita · 16/04/2024 11:35

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MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 16/04/2024 11:56

@Italianita did you mean to be so rude?
I think it's fine to post an alternative experience, there are lots of people on here being negative about the system and someone considering using it might not based on that, surely it just gives balance. OP has got the outcome she wanted from her situation.

wombat15 · 17/04/2024 19:15

PixieLaLar · 15/04/2024 18:50

I didn’t say you can choose any antibiotic.

I have used online pharmacies many times for cystitis treatment and you absolutely can choose yourself between Nitrofurantoin or Trimethoprim.

It’s not “a lot of questions” either.

Fair enough if OP is resistant to both the regular antibiotics used to treat cystitis, but she should know that information herself and let the receptionist know that she needs a particular type that only the GP can prescribe.

People need to take more responsibility with their own healthcare needs instead of this “oh it’s those round pills with the long name I can possibly remember, the doctor will know” attitude. Its irritating.

They might give a choice of two antibiotics but I disagree that they should. It is essentially a private consultation and people should be prescribed the antibiotic which is most likely to work, based on local patterns of antibiotic resistance which I don't think the average non health care professional should be expected to know. In most areas nitrofurantoin would be first choice and that is all the pharmacist would give on the NHS.

It's not OP that is resistant to the antibiotics. It is the bacteria that have previously infected OP. It doesn't mean that they won't work this time but it isn't the only reason OP needs to see the GP rather than the pharmacist so irrelevant.

PixieLaLar · 17/04/2024 19:38

wombat15 · 17/04/2024 19:15

They might give a choice of two antibiotics but I disagree that they should. It is essentially a private consultation and people should be prescribed the antibiotic which is most likely to work, based on local patterns of antibiotic resistance which I don't think the average non health care professional should be expected to know. In most areas nitrofurantoin would be first choice and that is all the pharmacist would give on the NHS.

It's not OP that is resistant to the antibiotics. It is the bacteria that have previously infected OP. It doesn't mean that they won't work this time but it isn't the only reason OP needs to see the GP rather than the pharmacist so irrelevant.

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Well you go ahead and disagree. It makes no difference or anything.

Why are you so obsessed with replying to anyone who dares have a difference of opinion to OP?

wombat15 · 17/04/2024 20:19

PixieLaLar · 17/04/2024 19:38

Well you go ahead and disagree. It makes no difference or anything.

Why are you so obsessed with replying to anyone who dares have a difference of opinion to OP?

I am responding to you because you are making a lot of statements which are either factually incorrect or against current guidance. It is also ironic that you are berating people for not taking persional responsibility while advocating buying antibiotics off the Internet without speaking to a health care professional.

PixieLaLar · 17/04/2024 21:37

wombat15 · 17/04/2024 20:19

I am responding to you because you are making a lot of statements which are either factually incorrect or against current guidance. It is also ironic that you are berating people for not taking persional responsibility while advocating buying antibiotics off the Internet without speaking to a health care professional.

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No I have seen you responding to multiple people on this thread, like a dog with a bone.

No they are just not in line with your opinion.

I am berating OP for some how not being able to make a note or remember an antibiotic that suites them yes. To me that is ridiculous.

There is nothing wrong with buying antibiotics from a pharmacy online. You clearly don’t like the idea, and that’s fine, but just stop now with your hostile attitude. You have made your opinion clear you do not need to keep quoting me.

wombat15 · 17/04/2024 22:29

PixieLaLar · 17/04/2024 21:37

No I have seen you responding to multiple people on this thread, like a dog with a bone.

No they are just not in line with your opinion.

I am berating OP for some how not being able to make a note or remember an antibiotic that suites them yes. To me that is ridiculous.

There is nothing wrong with buying antibiotics from a pharmacy online. You clearly don’t like the idea, and that’s fine, but just stop now with your hostile attitude. You have made your opinion clear you do not need to keep quoting me.

What do you mean by "suits her".
No, I don't like the idea of people selecting antibiotics online whenever they want without consulting a healthcare professional because antibiotics need to be used only when necessary because inappropriate use increases the risk of antibiotic resistance. That's not what is meant to happen either. When you use an online service, you are actually having a private consultation (by completing a questionnaire) and a doctor or prescriber pharmacist will prescribe an antibiotic if they think it appropriate. They won't prescribe for everyone. It depends on the answers to the questionnaire. That is a fact not my opinion btw.

PixieLaLar · 17/04/2024 22:56

wombat15 · 17/04/2024 22:29

What do you mean by "suits her".
No, I don't like the idea of people selecting antibiotics online whenever they want without consulting a healthcare professional because antibiotics need to be used only when necessary because inappropriate use increases the risk of antibiotic resistance. That's not what is meant to happen either. When you use an online service, you are actually having a private consultation (by completing a questionnaire) and a doctor or prescriber pharmacist will prescribe an antibiotic if they think it appropriate. They won't prescribe for everyone. It depends on the answers to the questionnaire. That is a fact not my opinion btw.

We have very different opinions.

I asked you politely, now just back off.

wombat15 · 18/04/2024 09:24

PixieLaLar · 17/04/2024 22:56

We have very different opinions.

I asked you politely, now just back off.

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Firstly, this is a debating forum so don't come on here if you can't handle people disagreeing with you. Secondly as you have been berating OP and telling her she is irresponsible it is a bit hypocritical to be so outraged by anyone disagreeing with you.
Thirdly, we do have very different opinions but yours don't seem to be based on any knowledge of UTIs or antimicrobials. You are correct that I have made a lot of posts on this thread but I am a pharmacist and have a professional interest in the subject What's your excuse for the multiple posts and why do you think you know better those who want to see/speak to a healthcare professional and let them decide if an antibiotic is required on what the best antibiotic would be?

RafaistheKingofClay · 18/04/2024 10:12

I’m not really sure it’s matter of opinion. Just that one of you is right and the other is wrong.

Musica7474 · 18/04/2024 10:34

wombat15 · 18/04/2024 09:24

Firstly, this is a debating forum so don't come on here if you can't handle people disagreeing with you. Secondly as you have been berating OP and telling her she is irresponsible it is a bit hypocritical to be so outraged by anyone disagreeing with you.
Thirdly, we do have very different opinions but yours don't seem to be based on any knowledge of UTIs or antimicrobials. You are correct that I have made a lot of posts on this thread but I am a pharmacist and have a professional interest in the subject What's your excuse for the multiple posts and why do you think you know better those who want to see/speak to a healthcare professional and let them decide if an antibiotic is required on what the best antibiotic would be?

Thankyou Wombat I appreciate it and your posts have been useful.

OP posts:
TennisLady · 18/04/2024 11:44

I used the new Pharmacy First service yesterday in Boots for a UTI. They have installed a small box type room next to the pharmacy for consultations. I must admit I did feel a little uncomfortable as the room is essentially like a small cupboard, sat right next to the male pharmacist whilst he explained I should ensure I go to the toilet after sex.... I just wanted to get the prescription and get out of there to be honest! I've bought them online previously for only £5 more, the questions were exactly the same online (health express) and reviewed by a doctor, which I'd say is a more comfortable experience.

PixieLaLar · 18/04/2024 12:24

I've bought them online previously for only £5 more, the questions were exactly the same online (health express) and reviewed by a doctor, which I'd say is a more comfortable experience.

I agree it’s so much more convenient and more comfortable experience when you are already feeling rubbish! I think it’s great that this service can be provided online. Smile

Musica7474 · 18/04/2024 12:43

I think there is a real danger that it will contribute to antibiotic over use and anti biotic resistance.

Had second GP call and on second prescription now.😫@TennisLady yes wouldn’t be for me and I think many other women will feel similar. Thankfully it’s a choice.

OP posts:
TennisLady · 18/04/2024 12:45

Musica7474 · 18/04/2024 12:43

I think there is a real danger that it will contribute to antibiotic over use and anti biotic resistance.

Had second GP call and on second prescription now.😫@TennisLady yes wouldn’t be for me and I think many other women will feel similar. Thankfully it’s a choice.

Hope it clears up for you, they can be so nasty!

I agree, I'm not normally too fussed about seeing health professionals about things, I've had breast examinations, colposcopys after dodgy smears etc with barely a second thought. Just something about being in a Boots shop and then sitting in a cupboard explaining how it burns when you wee and being told to ensure you go to toilet after sex just felt rather uncomfortable!

Upsidedownlife · 18/04/2024 12:58

Mama2many73 · 17/04/2024 23:13

I had heard about Pharmacy First ans was wondering if our local pharmacies were signed up. According to this info (very clear) 95% have signed up.

https://healthmedia.blog.gov.uk/2024/02/01/pharmacy-first-what-you-need-to-know/

My partner used the pharmacy first service yesterday for an infected insect bite (one of the 7 common conditions mentioned in the guidelines) and the service was brilliant. He was taken into a private room , the pharmacist had access to his NHS records and prescribed a type of antibiotics that wouldn’t adversely react with other medication he is currently on. I think pharmacists are obliged provide a private consultation room if they have signed up to the scheme. It can only be a good thing to have additional possible services given the pressure on GPs. If only if wasn’t so but we are where we are.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 18/04/2024 13:00

Upsidedownlife · 18/04/2024 12:58

My partner used the pharmacy first service yesterday for an infected insect bite (one of the 7 common conditions mentioned in the guidelines) and the service was brilliant. He was taken into a private room , the pharmacist had access to his NHS records and prescribed a type of antibiotics that wouldn’t adversely react with other medication he is currently on. I think pharmacists are obliged provide a private consultation room if they have signed up to the scheme. It can only be a good thing to have additional possible services given the pressure on GPs. If only if wasn’t so but we are where we are.

This is great news, dh gets infected bites every year and ends up in urgent care, it'll be so much easier and quicker to go to the pharmacy.

Aquarius1234 · 18/04/2024 14:03

I thought I had a insect bite for about a year. Turns out it was a BCC . Diagnosed via private dermatologist finally!

Wbeezer · 19/04/2024 10:32

We've had this scheme for years in Scotland, a godsend for UTIs as delays are torture.
I've only had to use it once and it worked well as I'd previously been to the GP about a UTI and knew which AB worked last time. It was a bit like getting a repeat prescription with a few extra checks. If you were having repeat infections you'd be told to see your GP anyway.

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