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What would you do with 40k to make money?

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Kevinisnotacatname · 10/04/2024 09:37

Name changed for this but been around here for yonks. I have no private pension (long story) and was due to inherit nearly 300k so it wasn't something I worried about. My dad then left nearly all his and mum's money to a woman he'd met 2 years before he died. I now have 40k total with the inheritance and a little savings.

What would you do to make this money work for you? I can't afford to make real risks really as this is all I have. I'm looking at starting a private pension now (I'm 48) but the most I can put into it is maybe £100 a month. I'm also wondering if something other than a pension might be a better option?

I've been googling so much I've confused myself so thought I'd post on here. I know I know, I should have started a private pension years ago but I can't turn back time. I don't own a home, I rent and I would not be able to get a mortgage.

OP posts:
MyOtherHusbandIsAWash · 10/04/2024 16:23

MumblesParty · 10/04/2024 15:50

presumably there'll some inheritance tax to pay too, or is it £40k after tax ?

Depends on the value of the estate as a whole. But given it was around 300k relatively recently, there wouldn’t be much if any to pay (nothing due up to £350k). Whatever OP gets would be after tax anyway regardless.

Notamum12345577 · 10/04/2024 16:31

lateatwork · 10/04/2024 10:53

You need something that will generate additional income in retirement to supplement pension. I'd go for ISA or private pension to do this.

I'd do as poster above and chuck cash in highest cash investment (not shares etc as too risky?) And that would give deadline for fixing credit rating.

I'm on the fence about owning own home at this point. Home owners have lots of lumpy costs and if the focus is mortgage free, then you will be asset rich and cash poor so these costs will be difficult to meet.

But- security of home is important as don't want to be hoping between homes when 75 every 18 months.

Hmm

She has a secure tenancy with a housing association. She won’t have to hop between houses when she is older, as she can stay there securely for the rest of her life if she wishes. As long as her rent is paid and she doesn’t cause loads of anti social issues, she cannot be kicked out.

PassingStranger · 10/04/2024 16:37

Enjoy it, have a holiday, put the rest into savings account.
Interest rates are good at the moment.

dolphinette · 10/04/2024 17:07

Buy to let

Hunkydory99 · 10/04/2024 17:15

Make sure have a clean break and sorted finances out from ex h so he can’t have any claim to your inheritance

Samlewis96 · 10/04/2024 17:19

dolphinette · 10/04/2024 17:07

Buy to let

With 40k? Id do that if I could buy a lace on that

BorgQueen · 10/04/2024 17:42

You can only use carry forward for pensions AFTER you’ve put in this year’s FULL allowance of £60k - if you don’t earn that much then you can’t do it.
Carry forward only benefits v. high earners.
If you only earn £20k then you can only put £20k ( gross ) in,
which means £16000 which gets made up to £20k with the tax relief.

BorgQueen · 10/04/2024 17:49

As I said before, a small pension can also be detrimental if you are going to be claiming HB etc. so be careful and do the sums.
My Sister had no choice in the matter, her pension was part of her divorce settlement but it made her worse off for years until she was able to claim PiP.
She would have been evicted for rent arrears from her HA flat had I not been able to help her financially.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 10/04/2024 18:18

MumblesParty · 10/04/2024 15:50

presumably there'll some inheritance tax to pay too, or is it £40k after tax ?

No inheritance tax on £40k!

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 10/04/2024 18:22

OP - most financial advisers will offer you an initial consultation for free. Perhaps speak with a couple and just see what they say. No need to take them on and pay their percentage . Personally I would be wary of anything stocks & shares .

Sososal · 10/04/2024 18:41

Most financial advisors won’t be interested at this level. They will never give the advice as part of the “free” consultation.

Patcherdog · 10/04/2024 18:43

IronyFor · 10/04/2024 11:20

You can carry forward your annual allowance for 3 years so she can easily put £35k in.

No she cant

Kevinisnotacatname · 10/04/2024 19:01

Oh gosh so much advice! Thank you everyone who's contributed so far. I'm making a list of suggestions first then narrowing them down as I do more research.

I guess I need to think about how much of a pension I can realistically build up now and if as someone else has said it will be even worth it in terms of not being able to claim housing benefit/pension credit.

I have it currently sitting in a savings account with just over 5% interest

OP posts:
BorgQueen · 10/04/2024 19:19

I hope it’s an ISA so your interest isn’t taxed!

Kevinisnotacatname · 10/04/2024 19:21

BorgQueen · 10/04/2024 19:19

I hope it’s an ISA so your interest isn’t taxed!

I'm going to put some in an ISA very soon when I've wrapped my head around what best to do.

OP posts:
Notamum12345577 · 10/04/2024 21:18

dolphinette · 10/04/2024 17:07

Buy to let

Generally not allowed to own a property while living in a HA place

Notamum12345577 · 10/04/2024 21:23

Springingintolife · 10/04/2024 12:59

Some social housing tenancies now are only five year. They review your situation every five years and will ask you to move into private renting if you're earning enough to do so. I don't know how that works with savings.

The OP says she has a secure tenancy. She could inherit a million pounds and they still couldn’t kick her out.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 10/04/2024 22:45

Sososal · 10/04/2024 18:41

Most financial advisors won’t be interested at this level. They will never give the advice as part of the “free” consultation.

At a higher level, but yes we've been given advice as part of free consultation . How else are you to know whether you want to deal with someone or not ?

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 10/04/2024 22:50

Admittedly my main reason for suggesting this was that I'm a bit concerned as to someone taking advice around this kind of thing from MN - when upon this thread people are giving conflicting advice as to what is true or not . I would be really worried that OP takes on oars someone's suggestion which ends up not being right for her .

Scenicgirl · 11/04/2024 06:45

Yocal · 10/04/2024 10:41

Buy a narrow boat and live on it. Then start squirrelling away money into a pension.

I think you need to take some serious action now. You can make it work, but you need some bold action today, not tomorrow!

Don't do this!!
My daughter purchased one a few years ago with the intention of having some fun whilst saving on paying a mortgage and utility bills.
It was a total money pit, the motor needed replacing and lots of other things went wrong with it. It was purchased from a solicitor who basically lied to them re the condition and the upkeep. You have to know what you're doing otherwise you could cause problems for other people.
She sold it at a loss a year later.
I would invest your money in a higher rate savings account, if you don't want the gamble of stocks and shares, be frugal and put as much as you can into a workplace pension. The aim should be purchasing a property to give you future stability.
You have not mentioned if you have a partner.
Would there be any possibility of buying a house jointly in the future?

Scenicgirl · 11/04/2024 06:49

Bjorkdidit · 10/04/2024 10:20

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/145962116#/?channel=RES_BUY

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/139346051#/?channel=RES_BUY

One of these needs some refurbishment for £110k or the £115k one is ready to move into. A 15 year mortgage with a £40k deposit, would be under £600 pm, depending on the length of the fix.

And this is in a nice enough town on the edge of a city, so plenty of employment opportunities and nowhere near the cheapest place you could find to live.

This looks pretty grim to me, it needs lots doing to it.......

GRex · 11/04/2024 07:01

Kevinisnotacatname · 10/04/2024 10:58

I also feel the same about home owning at this stage. I do have security in my home as it's a housing association tenancy.

I am also quite frankly petrified as my previous home was repossessed and it was the worst period of my life. My exh left the country leaving me with loads of debts and I couldn't sell the house or meet the mortgage payments so bank took it back and I still owed them thousands as it does for less than the mortgage

Even better, you can buy the HA home at a discount: https://www.gov.uk/right-to-acquire-buying-housing-association-home.
Removing rent from your expenses will help your pension to go much further. You then have 20 years to save a bit more by other means.

Right to Acquire: buying your housing association home

Buy your housing association home - including how to apply, who is eligible, discounts available and where to get help and advice.

https://www.gov.uk/right-to-acquire-buying-housing-association-home.

grapeomelette · 11/04/2024 07:16

I would try and get a public sector job. £20k in stocks and shares ISA and £20k in savings.

MikeRafone · 11/04/2024 07:37

I’d put £20k in stocks and shares ISA
id put £15k in 9 months atom bank high interest account
put £5k into highest interest you can get easy access account

public service job would provide good pension for 19 years

id buy £100 extra pension monthly for the duration - would give you an extra £22k in pension pot but only probably cost you about £15k ( £100 cost about £70 monthly)

then 2025 I’d get a highest paying cash ISA that allows withdrawals ( example Coventry building society allows 4x withdrawal per year) put in £20k from your Atom account and easy access. Set interest to be paid to your bank monthly. At todays rates that’d be £82 per month

This £82 covers the extra pension you’re buying if you get public service job you’re after and but extra pension at £100 each month. ( as it’s £100 before tax, so your take home only drops by about £70)

leave your £20k in sticks and shares ISA long term these have produced between 8-10%

bubblesforbreakfast · 11/04/2024 07:50

Don't invest in property. That model worked when borrowing was cheap. It doesn't now. Pop it in a savings account, pay a bit for some proper financial advice. They will be able to help

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