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To show you what your free range egg providers really look like?

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StridTheKiller · 09/04/2024 09:31

That's all. Rescued a dozen ladies this weekend, ex-free range chicken farm hens. The photo shows the rest. Vile trade.

To show you what your free range egg providers really look like?
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Mamanyt · 11/04/2024 01:09

slipperytiger · 09/04/2024 09:35

I'm glad you've posted this. I hope I avoid this by buying organic eggs only.

All "organic" does is guarantee that they have not been given antibiotics, and the such. It does NOT mean that they have been treated well.

daisychain01 · 11/04/2024 04:09

I would have thought that by implication organic practices, the investment in improved feed would include better living conditions and does equate to an improved existence for our feathered friends.

NoToMinglingHappilySingleIThink · 11/04/2024 04:17

Are they ill or just shedding? Chickens do shed their feathers, and regrow, looks gross but does happen. Either way happy you rescued them there are some awful shepherds out there

DianaTaverner · 11/04/2024 04:19

Mamanyt · 11/04/2024 01:09

All "organic" does is guarantee that they have not been given antibiotics, and the such. It does NOT mean that they have been treated well.

That's not actually true, it covers other things. It's not a total guarantee that the birds have been treated well, but it's more likely than under just the "free range" standard.
https://www.soilassociation.org/take-action/organic-living/what-is-organic/organic-eggs/

Tworoads · 11/04/2024 06:58

I’m so glad you posted this. Please look a little further. Please look at this link
https://www.ciwf.org.uk/
Factory farms are growing in size and number behind the scenes and the cruelty is on an epic scale. I’m not trying to drive everyone reading this into veganism but please would you sign the petitions to pressurise governments to end the cage age?
At the moment animals spend their whole sad lives in pens barely big enough for them. Mother pigs can’t lie down properly to feed their piglets etc.
We have the power to change this - for our own health and the wellbeing of farmed animals. It’s signatures. Getting people to know what goes on.

Our mission is to end factory farming

The world's leading farm animal welfare organisation campaigning to end factory farming and stop farm animal suffering.

https://www.ciwf.org.uk/

LifeofBrienne · 11/04/2024 07:19

it’s something, although not ideal, that so many people make a point of buying free range eggs nowadays. But chickens bred for meat don’t even get those limited freedoms, as far fewer people make sure to only buy free range chicken, so they’re nearly all battery farmed.

Vettrianofan · 11/04/2024 07:43

venus7 · 10/04/2024 18:12

You don't need to eat eggs for protein.

Yep. Lentils would be great for a protein source...

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 11/04/2024 07:46

Vettrianofan · 11/04/2024 07:43

Yep. Lentils would be great for a protein source...

Yep. Lentils would be great for a protein source...in some cases.

SchoolDramas · 11/04/2024 08:32

LavenderPup · 10/04/2024 21:50

Hmmm I wouldn’t trust a vets opinion on organic food tbh, they push way too many unnecessary vaccines and meds on animals as it is.

Well they were vegetarian and the conversation was around animal welfare (shortly before we went vegan). There are strict rules around handling animals raised for the food chain and also around organic practices - I expect all the information is publicly available if you want to look it up. We chose to stop eating animals and animal produce, as it's just not necessary in the UK when there's so much cruelty-free food readily available.

venus7 · 11/04/2024 09:11

Vettrianofan · 11/04/2024 07:43

Yep. Lentils would be great for a protein source...

Lentils are not very high in protein. Other pulses, combined with whole grains, are.

Autumn1990 · 11/04/2024 09:19

They are in a horrible state when they come out of the sheds, however they improve after a few weeks. Some always die and unfortunately they are not long lived even the survivors. Only 3-4 years more.
Best place to buy eggs is from small scale chickens keepers and by small scale anywhere upto 500
My hens are ex layers and now free range over a few acres with various houses they can go in at night so they can choose who they live with. I sell the eggs for the less than £3 a dozen. The most common reason for my hens dying is old age or death by misadventure.
I want to start raising free range for meat but that’s a different breed of chickens and probably won’t happen for a few years.

Vettrianofan · 11/04/2024 09:20

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 11/04/2024 07:46

Yep. Lentils would be great for a protein source...in some cases.

Absolutely 😊

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 11/04/2024 09:34

SchoolDramas · 11/04/2024 08:32

Well they were vegetarian and the conversation was around animal welfare (shortly before we went vegan). There are strict rules around handling animals raised for the food chain and also around organic practices - I expect all the information is publicly available if you want to look it up. We chose to stop eating animals and animal produce, as it's just not necessary in the UK when there's so much cruelty-free food readily available.

It might not 'be necessary' for you.
That's not always the case though, as already mentioned on this thread and as generally available information.

Jengadreads · 11/04/2024 10:14

I check that chickens come from farms from grazing farms. In that head that means they are running around outside all day. Are these “free range” chickens from massive barns? The ones that only give a 3M x 3M putdoor pen attached to legally call them chickens?

Jengadreads · 11/04/2024 10:15

Tinydogssitter · 09/04/2024 09:39

You could just not eat eggs!

ignorant comment

slipperytiger · 11/04/2024 10:16

@Mamanyt I don't understand why you would write something with such conviction when what you've stated is absolutely untrue. Organic has to adhere to strict welfare standards as well as other things such as blanket applications of medications, looking after the immediate environment (hedges, flora and fauna), and absolutely the care of the animals that are being used for produce.

Jengadreads · 11/04/2024 10:20

FlyingPizzaMonkey · 09/04/2024 09:53

We’re not allowed hens (random clause on the deeds 🤷🏻‍♀️) but otherwise I’d keep my own.

I thought the eggs I was buying were from happy chickens but maybe not.

I work full time so am never off when the once a week farmers market sells eggs so what do I do? 🤔

Next time you’re in a supermarket open the box of eggs. On decent welfare eggs that’s where it will tell you where the eggs come from, you can then google the farm. I always go for eggs that run around woodland and grazing fields during the day.

Tinydogssitter · 11/04/2024 11:10

Jengadreads · 11/04/2024 10:15

ignorant comment

How so @Jengadreads?

IncognitoIsMyFavouriteWord · 11/04/2024 11:14

Mine don't. Mine come from my neighbours chickens. Fluffy fat things they are. Very loved pets.

LavenderPup · 11/04/2024 16:23

SchoolDramas · 11/04/2024 08:32

Well they were vegetarian and the conversation was around animal welfare (shortly before we went vegan). There are strict rules around handling animals raised for the food chain and also around organic practices - I expect all the information is publicly available if you want to look it up. We chose to stop eating animals and animal produce, as it's just not necessary in the UK when there's so much cruelty-free food readily available.

I know there’s a big disparity between ‘organic’ eggs so maybe that explains it. The Riverford ones I know are kept in a much better environment. I’d be happier if DH went stopped eating animal produce but it’s his choice. He doesn’t have much thankfully as I wont cook with it.

Packetofcrispsplease · 11/04/2024 16:33

Oh god love them 😭 I wonder what are the best supermarket eggs to buy then ?
I often buy eggs from our local storehouse that are from a nearby farm but on occasion will be doing a supermarket big shop and get eggs from there .
I rarely eat meat , tend to have veggie and vegan meals + a bit of fish so I do have eggs a LOT

NippySweetie16 · 11/04/2024 19:07

Mamanyt · 11/04/2024 01:09

All "organic" does is guarantee that they have not been given antibiotics, and the such. It does NOT mean that they have been treated well.

This is incorrect - high standards of animal husbandry is part of the requirement for organic registration.

SchoolDramas · 11/04/2024 20:55

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 11/04/2024 09:34

It might not 'be necessary' for you.
That's not always the case though, as already mentioned on this thread and as generally available information.

Most people can live happily on a vegan diet - the WHO agree that it's healthy for any age group. Obviously there will always be exceptions - but yes, most of the people in the western world have access to all sorts of food that doesn't rely on animal suffering. Organic beans and lentils are cheaper then cheap meat, better for the environment and better for health.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 11/04/2024 21:13

SchoolDramas · 11/04/2024 20:55

Most people can live happily on a vegan diet - the WHO agree that it's healthy for any age group. Obviously there will always be exceptions - but yes, most of the people in the western world have access to all sorts of food that doesn't rely on animal suffering. Organic beans and lentils are cheaper then cheap meat, better for the environment and better for health.

Each to their own.
I certainly cannot live happily on a vegan diet.

Mamanyt · 11/04/2024 21:57

slipperytiger · 11/04/2024 10:16

@Mamanyt I don't understand why you would write something with such conviction when what you've stated is absolutely untrue. Organic has to adhere to strict welfare standards as well as other things such as blanket applications of medications, looking after the immediate environment (hedges, flora and fauna), and absolutely the care of the animals that are being used for produce.

I keep forgetting how different things are in the UK. I've seen organic chicken farms here in the USA that were deplorable. I'm SO thankful that doesn't happen there.