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What’s with the Californian safety warning on TKMaxx products?

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Changeusernameseeusernamehistory · 08/04/2024 15:53

I’ve seen these warnings on a number of TKMaxx products - something like “the state of California warns that this product contains something that is known to cause cancer”.
the latest is a bin - pic below.

I know TKMaxx is an american company (TJMaxx, I think) and can see how their stock would end up here but what is going on with these warnings?
how worried should we be?
should we have the same standard as California?
does everything potentially cause cancer?

What’s with the Californian safety warning on TKMaxx products?
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Changeusernameseeusernamehistory · 08/04/2024 15:54

I don’t think this is related to differences post Brexit as I think I saw these pre-Brexit

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SoftandQuiet · 08/04/2024 15:54

Coo that looks scary. Wonder if it’s to do with micro plastics? But it’s not coming in contact with food/drink is it!

modgepodge · 08/04/2024 15:56

I noticed these notices everywhere when I was in California. I also noticed it on a baby toy recently which I think was probably bought in TK maxx. I’ve always assumed it relates to the litigious American culture and someone covering their ass in the unlikely event something bad happens rather than there genuinely being a chance of getting cancer from a baby grow or anything.

Changeusernameseeusernamehistory · 08/04/2024 15:56

SoftandQuiet · 08/04/2024 15:54

Coo that looks scary. Wonder if it’s to do with micro plastics? But it’s not coming in contact with food/drink is it!

So one warning that I saw this week was on a make up bag - it was just a toiletry bag, advertised as make up bag.

might be related to micro plastics, you’re right

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kittykarate · 08/04/2024 15:58

Everything causes death in california. I've seen that warning entering a hotel because they use cleaning products / chlorinate the pool.

HauntedBungalow · 08/04/2024 15:58

If it causes cancer why tf are they selling it?

InTheRainOnATrain · 08/04/2024 15:58

It’s prop 65, applies to like 900 chemicals and has been state law since the 1980s and has to be on anything that contains these chemicals if it’s sold in California. Doesn’t say how much of the chemical is even in the product or if it’s even dangerous under normal circumstances. Like it has to be on lumber there because you could potentially inhale wood dust. Don’t worry about it.

MyOtherHusbandIsAWash · 08/04/2024 15:59

This is such a common label in the US-California thinks everything causes cancer 😂 I once bought some (non-prescription) progesterone cream online from the US and it had that label due to the progesterone. I saw it on other things when I lived over there but forget what. If you bought the item here, it should be sufficiently safe.

TimeandMotion · 08/04/2024 16:00

Have you looked at the website printed on the label? That has a FAQ that tells you a lot of what you need to know.
https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/

https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/

InTheRainOnATrain · 08/04/2024 16:01

And yes it’s almost certainly the type of plastic, but storing your make up in it isn’t the same as microwaving your soup in it, so it’s safe to use under those circumstances.

WhichEllie · 08/04/2024 16:01

California has very strict labeling laws about all kinds of things. In this case, any item that contains something known to be carcinogenic must be labeled. However, it doesn’t make allowances for how it is carcinogenic such as inhalation, ingestion, etc. So usually the product is actually safe because you’d have to do something like eat it or burn it and whiff the fumes to cause a problem.

It’s similar to why American food labels are so long. Their laws are stricter about what has to be labeled and the terms that have to be used (usually the exact scientific ones instead of general ones like “vitamins”) so they look a lot different to what we see in the UK or Europe.

SpinyNorma · 08/04/2024 16:02

I lived in the US for a few years. This warning was on absolutely anything and everything. As I understand it there is a list of something like 1,000 chemicals and if a product contains any amount whatsoever the warning label goes on. But there is no distinction on amount or context - e.g. there is a world of difference between a chemical being in, say, a bed frame vs a drink.

Aquamarine1029 · 08/04/2024 16:03

California has warnings on pretty much everything.

TimeandMotion · 08/04/2024 16:04

Here are some bullet points to put this in context:

  1. The UK has a very sophisticated health and safety regulatory regime
  2. We can’t ever be certain of what causes cancer, it’s a risk we have to live with, but our regulators have thought about how best to minimise risks based on the available scientific knowledge
  3. Americans are more litigious than British people so there is more arse-covering there
fashionqueen1183 · 08/04/2024 16:06

WhichEllie · 08/04/2024 16:01

California has very strict labeling laws about all kinds of things. In this case, any item that contains something known to be carcinogenic must be labeled. However, it doesn’t make allowances for how it is carcinogenic such as inhalation, ingestion, etc. So usually the product is actually safe because you’d have to do something like eat it or burn it and whiff the fumes to cause a problem.

It’s similar to why American food labels are so long. Their laws are stricter about what has to be labeled and the terms that have to be used (usually the exact scientific ones instead of general ones like “vitamins”) so they look a lot different to what we see in the UK or Europe.

Yes- I noticed warnings on food even like pizzas saying to make sure it was heated until xF degrees or it could cause food poisoning

Aquamarine1029 · 08/04/2024 16:07

fashionqueen1183 · 08/04/2024 16:06

Yes- I noticed warnings on food even like pizzas saying to make sure it was heated until xF degrees or it could cause food poisoning

That's standard everywhere in the US.

TimeandMotion · 08/04/2024 16:13

Whatever you do, OP, never read the Daily Mail. Their editorial mission is to divide every single substance in the world into “causes cancer” or “cures cancer”. Most substances currently appear in both listsGrin

fashionqueen1183 · 08/04/2024 16:26

Aquamarine1029 · 08/04/2024 16:07

That's standard everywhere in the US.

Yes exactly

Changeusernameseeusernamehistory · 08/04/2024 17:21

TimeandMotion · 08/04/2024 16:00

Have you looked at the website printed on the label? That has a FAQ that tells you a lot of what you need to know.
https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/

I hadn’t - Tbf this is the first time I’ve seen the website on one of these warnings

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Changeusernameseeusernamehistory · 08/04/2024 17:22

thanks everyone - seems like this one falls in the ‘everything can potentially cause cancer’ category!

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Changeusernameseeusernamehistory · 08/04/2024 17:23

Thank you!!!

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Glittertwins · 08/04/2024 17:24

Yep, Prop65 although it's gone very quiet at work about that after the initial argh, what are we going to do!

Changeusernameseeusernamehistory · 08/04/2024 17:24

Guess I can continue to indulge my TKMaxx habit :D

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crockofshite · 08/04/2024 17:25

Looks like universal arse covering to me.