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Rapeseed oil - how can anyone cook with it - fish smell

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ScottishScouser · 06/04/2024 12:44

Please tell me it’s not just me. Every time I accidentally buy rapeseed oil (or rather DH does) the house ends up stinking of fish. The last time he picked up veg oil and didn’t check to see if it was taper not.

crisp and dry
tescos own
sainsburys own

I can’t believe people actually don’t mind the smell.

Here is a serving of fried onions with an added aroma of fish!

OP posts:
pensione · 06/04/2024 16:40

soupfiend · 06/04/2024 16:35

Mass produced just means produced en masse.

The method is a different kettle of fish(y smelling oil)

People are being really wilfully ignorant about what mass produced oil means in this context. Read the article at least.

KrisAkabusi · 06/04/2024 16:48

I have read it and what I'm saying is that the hundreds of thousands of bottles of rapeseed oil sold here (Ireland) are all produced using the same method as he uses. It's still mass production.

soupfiend · 06/04/2024 16:49

pensione · 06/04/2024 16:40

People are being really wilfully ignorant about what mass produced oil means in this context. Read the article at least.

I read the article thank you

I think you're the one getting confused.

Mass produced is mass produced, just like all the cold pressed oils you find in supermarkets from producers. They are all mass produced unless they are very small enterprises who tend to sell out of farmers markets and the like.

StarbucksQueen1 · 06/04/2024 16:49

Never noticed the smell but my DH won’t buy it as says seed oils are really bad for you.

pensione · 06/04/2024 16:59

soupfiend · 06/04/2024 16:49

I read the article thank you

I think you're the one getting confused.

Mass produced is mass produced, just like all the cold pressed oils you find in supermarkets from producers. They are all mass produced unless they are very small enterprises who tend to sell out of farmers markets and the like.

Sigh. You are confused.

Mass produced rapeseed is made by processing large amounts in huge machines generating hear, producing various chemicals that extend the shelf life of the oil.

Cold pressed oil is made in a TRADITIONAL method that doesn’t use the mass-produced approach above, with no heat applied but more effort using a smaller amount of seeds.

Context matters.

KrisAkabusi · 06/04/2024 17:35

Oh FFS!
There are around 250000 bottles of cold pressed rapeseed oil on the shelves in Ireland. There are less than 10000 bottles of hot produced oil. Yet you are seriously arguing that the latter is the mass produced one?

mathanxiety · 06/04/2024 18:02

Rapeseed is a member of the brassica family, related to mustard, cabbage, broccoli, candytuft, turnips, and more.

If you're using cold filtered or unfiltered rapeseed oil, there will be a stronger taste than more processed or filtered oil, possibly a smell related to other members of the plant family.

I once threw out unfiltered sunflower oil I had bought, believing it would be a Good Thing because unfiltered - it had a strong flavour thst wasn't pleasant, and since I was using it for frying, there was a smell too.

mathanxiety · 06/04/2024 18:35

pensione · 06/04/2024 16:59

Sigh. You are confused.

Mass produced rapeseed is made by processing large amounts in huge machines generating hear, producing various chemicals that extend the shelf life of the oil.

Cold pressed oil is made in a TRADITIONAL method that doesn’t use the mass-produced approach above, with no heat applied but more effort using a smaller amount of seeds.

Context matters.

You're using the wrong terms here.

'Mass production' refers to volume of product, not method of processing.

'Traditional' or 'modern' labels for styles or production are therefore irrelevant when referring to 'mass production'.

If a cold press process yields billions of litres of oil, then that cold pressed oil is mass produced. There are billions of litres of cold pressed rapeseed oil on the market.

Cold press production process doesn't require fewer seeds than heat processing. It can be scaled to meet market demand. It can be called 'craft' oil, or 'traditional' oil, or 'private label' or all sorts of other names that appeal to customers for whom this sort of labeling resonates, but it is made using heavy machinery in purpose-built facilities just as expeller or heat produced oil is.

If a heat or expeller process yields billions of litres of oil, then that form of oil is also mass produced. There are billions of litres of heat/ expeller processed rapeseed oil on the market too.

It's more accurate to describe the product you're calling 'traditional' as 'cold pressed'. It is mass produced to the level the market demands, not lovingly hand crafted bottle by bottle, but using a method that doesn't involve heat or added ingredients.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 06/04/2024 18:39

It’s never smelt fishy to me. I only use cold pressed U.K. rapeseed in glass.

People’s taste (and smell) buds do differ, though. E.g. tea with milk tastes utterly vile to me but most people much prefer it to black tea.

pensione · 06/04/2024 18:42

mathanxiety · 06/04/2024 18:35

You're using the wrong terms here.

'Mass production' refers to volume of product, not method of processing.

'Traditional' or 'modern' labels for styles or production are therefore irrelevant when referring to 'mass production'.

If a cold press process yields billions of litres of oil, then that cold pressed oil is mass produced. There are billions of litres of cold pressed rapeseed oil on the market.

Cold press production process doesn't require fewer seeds than heat processing. It can be scaled to meet market demand. It can be called 'craft' oil, or 'traditional' oil, or 'private label' or all sorts of other names that appeal to customers for whom this sort of labeling resonates, but it is made using heavy machinery in purpose-built facilities just as expeller or heat produced oil is.

If a heat or expeller process yields billions of litres of oil, then that form of oil is also mass produced. There are billions of litres of heat/ expeller processed rapeseed oil on the market too.

It's more accurate to describe the product you're calling 'traditional' as 'cold pressed'. It is mass produced to the level the market demands, not lovingly hand crafted bottle by bottle, but using a method that doesn't involve heat or added ingredients.

Thanks for the patronising explanation but in the industry refined oils is referred to as mass production due to the process of processing large amounts. As I said, context matters.

It's more accurate to describe the product you're calling 'traditional' as 'cold pressed'

That’s literally what I said.

mathanxiety · 06/04/2024 18:56

pensione · 06/04/2024 18:42

Thanks for the patronising explanation but in the industry refined oils is referred to as mass production due to the process of processing large amounts. As I said, context matters.

It's more accurate to describe the product you're calling 'traditional' as 'cold pressed'

That’s literally what I said.

That's 'cold pressed' as opposed to whatever you believe to be the opposite of 'mass produced'.

You're conflating method and volume.

One more time, 'mass production' refers to volume of product, not method of production.

Cold pressed is a method of production. It doesn't refer to volume.
'Mass produced' refers to volume, whether cold pressed or heat/ expeller pressed.

Sorry you're still confused here. I clearly wasn't thorough enough in my explanation.

soupfiend · 06/04/2024 20:08

mathanxiety · 06/04/2024 18:35

You're using the wrong terms here.

'Mass production' refers to volume of product, not method of processing.

'Traditional' or 'modern' labels for styles or production are therefore irrelevant when referring to 'mass production'.

If a cold press process yields billions of litres of oil, then that cold pressed oil is mass produced. There are billions of litres of cold pressed rapeseed oil on the market.

Cold press production process doesn't require fewer seeds than heat processing. It can be scaled to meet market demand. It can be called 'craft' oil, or 'traditional' oil, or 'private label' or all sorts of other names that appeal to customers for whom this sort of labeling resonates, but it is made using heavy machinery in purpose-built facilities just as expeller or heat produced oil is.

If a heat or expeller process yields billions of litres of oil, then that form of oil is also mass produced. There are billions of litres of heat/ expeller processed rapeseed oil on the market too.

It's more accurate to describe the product you're calling 'traditional' as 'cold pressed'. It is mass produced to the level the market demands, not lovingly hand crafted bottle by bottle, but using a method that doesn't involve heat or added ingredients.

Well done for trying

I gave up

DisforDarkChocolate · 06/04/2024 20:09

I only use rapeseed oil and it's never smelt of fish.

ThursdayTomorrow · 06/04/2024 20:11

I thought it was the healthiest oil to use. I’ve never noticed any smell.

Afraidofthedarke · 06/04/2024 20:12

I have never noticed this! But I now use extra virgin olive oil or olive oil for all cooking now.

muddyford · 06/04/2024 20:14

I've never noticed any smell. I swapped from sunflower oil, which made the kitchen reek.

ThursdayTomorrow · 06/04/2024 20:16

idontlikealdi · 06/04/2024 16:00

I have the same issue and with vegetable oil. The smell makes me gag. Olive oil only here.

I thought olive oil wasn’t for cooking?

ouch321 · 06/04/2024 20:23

Talking of oils, what are you supposed to do with extra virgin olive oil?
I bought a bottle for the first time yesterday as people are always talking about it, but if you can't cook with it, what can you actually use it for bar drizzling over a salad?

Afraidofthedarke · 06/04/2024 20:24

ThursdayTomorrow · 06/04/2024 20:16

I thought olive oil wasn’t for cooking?

That’s a myth. Only a problem if you’re reusing oil or more so for commercial kitchens where you are cooking at high temperatures for longer periods of time. I pretty much only use olive oil or extra virgin now for all cooking.

Mum2jenny · 06/04/2024 20:25

I only use virgin olive oil for all cooking

pensione · 06/04/2024 20:27

mathanxiety · 06/04/2024 18:56

That's 'cold pressed' as opposed to whatever you believe to be the opposite of 'mass produced'.

You're conflating method and volume.

One more time, 'mass production' refers to volume of product, not method of production.

Cold pressed is a method of production. It doesn't refer to volume.
'Mass produced' refers to volume, whether cold pressed or heat/ expeller pressed.

Sorry you're still confused here. I clearly wasn't thorough enough in my explanation.

@math, my own post literally says cold pressed, so what are you even about?

It’s you that’s confused, read up on it and report back.

pensione · 06/04/2024 20:27

soupfiend · 06/04/2024 20:08

Well done for trying

I gave up

Clueless.

ATerrorofLeftovers · 06/04/2024 20:28

hedgehoglurker · 06/04/2024 13:36

I wonder if the people that taste/ smell fish also find artificial sweeteners have a terribly bitter aftertaste?

Interesting! I can’t stand rapeseed because of the traffic fishy smell and taste. I also can’t stand artificial sweeteners, can spot the tiniest amount of them and find they taste overwhelmingly bitter instead of sweet.

ATerrorofLeftovers · 06/04/2024 20:29

ATerrorofLeftovers · 06/04/2024 20:28

Interesting! I can’t stand rapeseed because of the traffic fishy smell and taste. I also can’t stand artificial sweeteners, can spot the tiniest amount of them and find they taste overwhelmingly bitter instead of sweet.

Terrible, not traffic! Bloody iPhone/Mumsnet spellcheck/glitchy delays.

ATerrorofLeftovers · 06/04/2024 20:32

mathanxiety · 06/04/2024 18:02

Rapeseed is a member of the brassica family, related to mustard, cabbage, broccoli, candytuft, turnips, and more.

If you're using cold filtered or unfiltered rapeseed oil, there will be a stronger taste than more processed or filtered oil, possibly a smell related to other members of the plant family.

I once threw out unfiltered sunflower oil I had bought, believing it would be a Good Thing because unfiltered - it had a strong flavour thst wasn't pleasant, and since I was using it for frying, there was a smell too.

Actually, you’ve reminded me that this is the other reason I can’t stand rapeseed. The farty/cabbagey smell on top of the fish reek. Boak. Olive oil for me.