To put a post on local FB about man and aggressive out of control dog?

[DogIssues]

I probably ABU so I thought I would post here first instead, as I know Mumsnet will put me right if I am. Also to let of steam!

My dog was just attacked by an off lead dog. Totally unprovoked - I heard snarling and then a few seconds later it burst through a hedge and went berserk at my dog, who was literally just standing there minding his own business. It jumped on on him aggressively, snarling and barking and ended up flipping my dog onto his back, causing him to squeal in pain. Then it tried to come back for another go so I got in the way and chased it off. My dog is a pretty big breed (but a total softie and not an aggressive bone in his body). The other dog was Labrador-sized I would say (looked this type of breed but maybe a mix). My dog seems OK, but very shaken. I would hate to see how a smaller dog may have faired.

A man then appeared with a very lackluster sorry. He didn't really seem that bothered. Although as he was nowhere nearby I don't think he saw what actually happened. But he must have heard the noises and my reaction.

I told him he shouldn't have such an aggressive dog off lead and all he said was "Oh he's alright". I told him it absolutely wasn't OK and described what had happened. He didn't say anything else and kept on walking. I note he didn't put his dog on the lead.

I may have shouted some choice words after him. And I was so cross with his total lack of reaction to his dog being so aggressive that I took a couple of pictures of him and the dog.

I may be over reacting, but it was horrible. And now I am pondering posting the photos on my local FB page to worn others (it's a popular place to dog walk). But maybe that would be a twatty thing to do?

I think if the man had seemed in any way genuinely concerned about his dogs behaviour, and put it on the lead, I might not have been left feeling quite so cross. But as it is I am left feeling very annoyed (and a little bit shaken as it was quite scary how aggressive the dog was, I have lived with and been around dogs all my life and never seen anything like it!).

Wow. Victim blaming a dog is a new one on me

It wasn't friendly in the slightest, it was growling, snarling and going for it. My dog is far bigger and has a LOT of fur and definately not in a mood for being attacked on his own front door step. My husband nearly got a redirected bite from ours when we were trying to split them up. There were scratch marks on the paving slabs outside our front door for weeks afterwards. My dog was leashed as we were about to enter our house! It's not always appropriate to have a dog off lead regardless of how good they are. Mine is certainly not a precious Fifi, he just doesn't start fights.

Of course you/your animal can be attacked but still have no visible or any form of injury. You can still suffer the attack.

I would post to warn others to steer clear if they see them.

Oh no! 😳 Not a growling, snarling…. Cockapoo 😂 It’s a miracle you, your dh and the dog managed to survive!

It makes a change from rabid, salivating bully breeds, I guess 🙄

I'd rather not have my dog marked on the face, or made agressive through another dog attacking him thank you very much. No matter the size, I' rather not be bitten by one or have the vet bill through no fault of my own. Besides that, I was using it as an example of the fact that dogs can attack and not injure another dog ffs. The cockerpoo is lucky we managed to get them apart...

A cockapoo charging, growling, snarling and going for it against your much bigger dog? Ok then… Was the cockapoo gummy, seeing as it attacked with no injury apparent? But managed to leave scratch marks on the pavement? Lol 😂 Typical MN story telling 🙄

Precious Fifi is a large furry, (very aggressive) spoilt pooch too, as is her owner. Are you sure you’re not my neighbour? 🤔

Seriously, what on earth is your problem? You weren't there. I know what happened, my neighbour knows what happened as does my husband when he got up to help after hearing all the commotion and opened the front door. My dog isn't aggressive, he's been well socialised and goes to dog training. You don't know him, you've never even met him and yet you seem to have something against him. You clearly know nothing about dogs. Are you one of those idiots who lets their off lead dog approach on lead dogs?

These situations can be very scary in the moment as you don’t know how far it’s going to go but tbh I think you’re over reacting. The dog snarled and rolled your dog so it’s aggressive and out of control? I’m with PP that this just sounds like rough play.

If the dog had bitten, I can see the logic in alerting neighbours on FB but these types of posts tend to explode and I don’t really think it’s worth the drama to let people know a Labrador may or may not rough house their dog at the park. I’d be pissed off too at the owners apathetic response but that’s just life, you don’t automatically need to seek revenge online.

You have got a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder. I sincerely hope you aren't a dog owner, because you sound like a really bad one. I feel sorry for your neighbour.

I’m so sorry OP. My puppy was attacked by a big husky type dog. It was a blood bath witnessed by my 6 year old. My pup didn’t survive 😢

There seems to be so many aggressive dogs around lately with owners who couldn’t care less. The other owner in this case told me it was my fault for leaving my pup off lead, calling him between myself and dd to teach him a good recall. Something I’ve always done. He said his dog became interested in my pup because he thought he was a cat! The police were involved and the other dog was put down.

I hope you and your dog make a good recovery and you have the patience and knowledge to give him/her confidence to get back out there once his/wounds have healed.

My dd and I are absolutely traumatised and we won’t be getting another dog. Ever!

Wishing your dog all the best for a quick physical and mental recovery and pray you have pet insurance 🤞

I haven’t said I know you or your dog. You sound remarkably similar to my neighbour though. If the cap fits….

Tell me, in your expert knowledge because you go to dog training classes an all, how a dog in attack mode leaves no puncture wounds? Your DH “nearly” had a bite. Nearly? Really?? Define “Nearly”. Either he was bitten in this (supposed) dog attack or he wasn’t. There’s no “nearly” about it.

I feel sorry for the poor, toothless dog tbh.

Bad luck! I have 4 working Border Collies, 2 Cocker Spaniels (My DH and DS are deaf so the cockers are their hearing dogs while they are working), 16 horses, 70 sheep and 24 cows. Plus a few chickens and 4 alpacas.

My collies and cockers are very well trained (by me and dh). They don’t need to be leashed. They have no interest in other dogs or anyone else. They walk with me, dh or DS always. Is that a problem for you? If so build a bridge…

You are obviously taken in by a story of a snarling, growling cockapoo. More fool you.

A smaller dog can most definitely be aggressive towards a larger dog without retaliation. And any breed can be aggressive, or fearful which may lead to aggression. There's many stages of aggression before a full blown bite. Snarling, growling, lunging etc are not acceptable behaviours and could escalate to a bite very easily.

There’s nothing stopping you putting a post on Facebook about your dog being attacked by another dog. The fact your dog suffered no injuries during this attack won’t go down well. These “My dog was attacked” Facebook posts always garner sympathy until it becomes clear the dog is just fine and has suffered no injuries. Be prepared for backlash.

More and more people seem to not understand the word “attacked”. Dogs who are allowed to approach other dogs, without invitation, are a PITA. However, a dog approaching another dog doesn’t = The dog attacked.

Some people seem to have a lot of problems with dogs attacking theirs (with no injury) while others have a better understanding about normal dog behaviour.

My local FB hub used to be a great source of information about what’s happening in the area. Recently all the helpful posts have been taken over by non dog attacks and my cat is missing, Can everyone have a look in your garage. I’m sure everyone rushes out to their garage to look for the cat that the owner was happy to let out - not!

When did it become the norm for everyone else to be responsible for the pet you chose to have? Dogs will be dogs and cats will be cats. Honestly, nobody really cares about your pet.

Get as much description together as you can, report to.your local authority animal licensing team. Each report they get builds up a picture and helps them decide where to target their work.

Facebook groups are pretty pointless, if he's the kind of idiot that allows this he's hardly going to be upset by a Facebook rant

Yes report him to the police.

YANBU to report and make this known to local folks.

My DM dog was attacked today. She will be posting it on FB to warn other dog owners.

Since responding I’ve read through the thread. Your dog was not harmed in the attack.

I take back my post. Your dog was not attacked OP. That’ll teach me to read the whole thread before commenting.

Some people have a strange idea of normal dog behaviour and what is acceptable. If you read the ops post she states -
It jumped on on him aggressively, snarling and barking and ended up flipping my dog onto his back, causing him to squeal in pain.

How on earth is this normal and not agressive and out of control? Normal dog behaviour when meeting another dog is to approach slowly, side on, then circling and sniff each others bottoms, or just to walk calmly by ignoring the other dog. If your dog is jumping on others, snarling, growling, barking, acting agressively in any manner they should not be off the lead.
Sounds like certain people think others are snowflakes for not wanting their dogs to be treated in an agressive manner regardless of whether their dog has been injured or not. Well tough, my well mannered dog shouldn't have to put up with the ill manners of yours! Would you like it if someone came up to you, punched you in the face but didn't leave a mark then got away with it?
I know someone whos lovely Husky died recently as a result of an idiots larger dog humping it, the poor husky received a cruciate leg injury as a result. It was repaired at great cost but sadly ended up with sepsis. The owner of the dog that humped it didn't pay anything.

Tell you what OP if you said the other dog was a Bully breed this would have gone a whole different way.

So if someone approached you and shook you hard but you weren’t hurt, you wouldn’t call it an attack? You are odd. OPs dog WAS attacked

Agree the dog was attacked. Others who think the dogs behaviour was acceptable, give all us other responsible owners a bad name. I have recently stopped walking somewhere with my pup - I have walked this place for years - due to multiple owners saying my dogs not aggressive - while they are running growling and snapping at my dog! If a dog is flipped and snarled at this is an attack in my opinion.

You obviously have never witnessed a dog attack. I have and a dog bounding on another dog and bowling him is not an attack. I think you have a problem distinguishing between human behaviour and dog behaviour tbh.

Any dog owner who leaves a dog to hump or bowl another dog over is an idiot! I should imagine all dog owners have experienced dogs with clueless owners or soon will. There’s plenty of them around.

If a dog doesn’t put its teeth on another dog then it hasn’t attacked. Exactly the same as if a dog bounded over to you and put its muddy paws on your white jeans. You’d be rightly pissed off but you couldn’t report an attack.

TBH you sound a bit OTT.

@goneaway2 BTW I don’t have a dog. My dog died as a result of a savage dog attack. Do you want the sordid details? I can assure you the dog didn’t put its paws on my pup, bowl him over or punch him in the face!