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To think this man should have gone straight on the sex offenders list to send a message?! (Deep fakes!)

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Namechangey23 · 02/04/2024 15:06

I'm frankly appauled. This could happen to any women (or man or child!) And has the potential to ruin lives.

It's on BBC news, Alex Woolfe a Cambridge music graduate earned the trust of various women who thought he was their friend and then posted photos of their heads on others bodies in porn deepfakes and there is other misogynistic stuff regarding Reddit 'who would you marry, fuck or kill...'. thread. Some of the photos were of these women when they were minors as I understand it?!

All he gets is £100 compensation per victim (what a joke??) And a suspended prison sentence which he wil never serve and a bit of community service. How does this deter others from doing the same? He should be put straight on the sex offenders register forever, do not pass go! Seriously WTAF?

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BabyImReadyToGo · 02/04/2024 15:08

I agree, OP. But I have some very radical views on how society should deal with sex offenders so not sure my perspective would be the most objective and balanced 🤣

justaboutdonenow · 02/04/2024 15:33

BabyImReadyToGo · 02/04/2024 15:08

I agree, OP. But I have some very radical views on how society should deal with sex offenders so not sure my perspective would be the most objective and balanced 🤣

I'm another one who has some radical views I reserve just for sex offenders & child molesters, will keep them to myself as they ain't nice.

Iwrotethelyricstoaxlf · 02/04/2024 15:47

I just read this article and I am gobsmacked that revenge porn carries a prison sentence and yet this doesn’t.

I’m thinking of the Stephen Bear case, and the videos he posted and he got 22 months and lost most everything.

Yet this guy gets to make up (29?) deep fake profiles and gets a slap on the wrist.

Toothbrushh · 02/04/2024 15:49

How long is the suspended sentence and how long is it suspended for and how many hours of unpaid work does he have to do?

Soigneur · 02/04/2024 15:58

Where are you getting the idea that he wasn't put on the sex offender's register? He was convicted of a sexual offence so he will definitely be registered (for 7 years, given the length of his sentence).

Toothbrushh · 02/04/2024 16:01

Soigneur · 02/04/2024 15:58

Where are you getting the idea that he wasn't put on the sex offender's register? He was convicted of a sexual offence so he will definitely be registered (for 7 years, given the length of his sentence).

Yes, not wanting to defend sex based offending at all, but I’m not sure that the original poster is very knowledgeable about sentencing.

Of course he could go down and serve his suspended sentence if he doesn’t commit to the conditions of the unpaid work or whatever the community order is.

Soigneur · 02/04/2024 16:04

Iwrotethelyricstoaxlf · 02/04/2024 15:47

I just read this article and I am gobsmacked that revenge porn carries a prison sentence and yet this doesn’t.

I’m thinking of the Stephen Bear case, and the videos he posted and he got 22 months and lost most everything.

Yet this guy gets to make up (29?) deep fake profiles and gets a slap on the wrist.

This story is 3 years old and there was no specific law around deepfakes at the time, hence the prosecution under the Malicious Communications Act. Deepfakes are now covered by the same part of the Online Safety Act 2023 that covers revenge porn.

Iamtheoneinten · 02/04/2024 16:09

Wait til you discover how many men, found guilty of rape, don’t even get a custodial sentence at all, some are even free to go completely without so much as a community service order. It’ll blow your mind.

Namechangey23 · 02/04/2024 16:47

Toothbrushh · 02/04/2024 16:01

Yes, not wanting to defend sex based offending at all, but I’m not sure that the original poster is very knowledgeable about sentencing.

Of course he could go down and serve his suspended sentence if he doesn’t commit to the conditions of the unpaid work or whatever the community order is.

You'd have to be very stupid though to breach the conditions and be actually sent to prison and this one is supposedly smart. As far as I am aware he wasn't put on the list, just made to go on a 'course'. I didn't realise it was 3 years ago as I've only seen it in the news today..which might explain why the sentence was more lenient...laws have changed?

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Namechangey23 · 02/04/2024 16:47

Iamtheoneinten · 02/04/2024 16:09

Wait til you discover how many men, found guilty of rape, don’t even get a custodial sentence at all, some are even free to go completely without so much as a community service order. It’ll blow your mind.

That is terrifying...we've had votes for women but where is the justice for women?!

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Toothbrushh · 02/04/2024 16:55

Thousands of people break the orders of a suspended sentence.

Soigneur · 02/04/2024 16:55

Namechangey23 · 02/04/2024 16:47

You'd have to be very stupid though to breach the conditions and be actually sent to prison and this one is supposedly smart. As far as I am aware he wasn't put on the list, just made to go on a 'course'. I didn't realise it was 3 years ago as I've only seen it in the news today..which might explain why the sentence was more lenient...laws have changed?

There isn't really a "Sex offenders register", that's just a shorthand way of saying that sex offenders need to register with their local police force, notify of change of addresses etc. I'm pretty sure that he would have been registered and certainly haven't seen anything to say he wasn't - it's automatic for anyone convicted of an offence with a sexual element. It might not have been reported specifically though.

Regarding the law, there wasn't really any law that covered this 3 years ago - which is why it was prosecuted under the Communications Act 2003 and the sentencing options are fairly limited.

The new Online Safety Act 2023 has this as a specific offence and has tougher sentences - it's basically considered the same as revenge porn.

Toothbrushh · 02/04/2024 16:55

The sex offenders notification requirements have been part of every kind of sex crime sentence for much longer than just three years ago. OP, you really don’t know what you’re talking about, so I’d quit while you’re ahead.

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