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For wanting my DH to stop being so miserable

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MiffedandMiserable · 27/03/2024 15:18

Name changed for this.

I have been with my DH for over 10 years, married for 5. He's never been one to talk much about his feelings, but it's starting to grind on me more and more.

He's worked in the same job for longer than I've known him. He used to love it there. Over the years, as budgets have been cut, he's taken on more and more responsibility and his job seems to have merged into something he doesn't love as much. He never seems to have anything positive to say about it.

I've encouraged him to look for other things, take a break, find something he loves, but he doesn't seem interested. I think it's just a comfort thing at this point.

Alongside this, he is just becoming and more irritating to be around. He goes very quiet when he's stressed, as in, literally does not talk to me.

I said hello to him when he came in from work yesterday and he said NOTHING. He didn't actually say a word to me for over 15 minutes even though we were in the same room.

I have asked him repeatedly about this over the years, presuming there's an issue with me / wanting to find a resolution, and he always says he has no complaints about our marriage or me as a person, he's just 'stressed with work'.

That's apparently how he deals with stress. Just being sulky.

I am sick of it to be honest. I don't want to live in a house with someone who thinks it's fine to ignore me and be miserable all the time. I've suggested he speaks to a professional, asked whether he thinks he might be depressed, but he just shuts down every conversation.

I need to have a proper chat with him about it, but I just don't even know where to start with it at the moment. I want to help, I want him to open up to me!

Please - any suggestions?!

OP posts:
MorrisZapp · 03/04/2024 09:12

MrsElsa · 03/04/2024 07:09

It's rude and hurtful behaviour. Sadly common.

I think it's a deep rooted level of entitlement and selfishness, and yes it's patriarchal. He wouldn't treat his (male) friends like that, or his work colleagues. So why is it fine to treat his wife like that?

It's not about wanting to help him or get him to "open up". Don't fall into that trap! It's just basic manners you're wanting from him, a basic level of respect. Lay it out clearly for him and see if he can bring himself to respect you as he would a colleague (!)

Nailed it. He's using you as his emotional punchbag and he knows it.

willWillSmithsmith · 03/04/2024 09:14

Urgh I hate this type of behaviour, it’s rude and self indulgent. I had a bf who would do this and then a friend would ring him and he’d be full of life and fun, then after the call he’d be back to his uncommunicative self. We didn’t last. My ex was also like this, especially in the mornings. Not being a morning person doesn’t give a person a pass to be downright rude.

You need a proper talk with him (choose the time wisely) and if he doesn’t buck up then it would be the end for me. Life is too short to spend it with someone that selfish.

Just to add, sulky behaviour is a total turn off. It screams childish self indulgence and from a man you’re meant to be physically attracted to, it’s a massive turn off.

FangsForTheMemory · 03/04/2024 09:16

MiffedandMiserable · 27/03/2024 16:35

So I just let him be miserable and not try and help him feel better? Seems an odd piece of advice.

It looks as though you’re doing what would make YOU feel better. He clearly needs headspace.

MorrisZapp · 03/04/2024 09:26

FangsForTheMemory · 03/04/2024 09:16

It looks as though you’re doing what would make YOU feel better. He clearly needs headspace.

He should move out if he doesn't want to engage in the basics of polite communication. He can have all the headspace he needs.

Zanzabar · 03/04/2024 09:29

This is emotional neglect and it's disturbing how many people are urging you to accept it, because it's just how it is. Ignoring someone you live with, choosing not to treat them with common courtesy, not using the tools of communication he clearly can use at work and ignoring his spouses needs is not OK. You are telling him that this isn't working for you, he is refusing help to change things. Put it very clearly, you are unhappy with things as they are and something needs to change. Frtom my own experience I would be stating that either he commits to marriage counselling and is open to meaningful change, or I'd be moving on. Only you know what you want, but I wouldn't be wasting years of my life miserable with a spouse who doesn't care enough about me or our life together to listen to my needs.

Lamelie · 03/04/2024 10:23

MiffedandMiserable · 03/04/2024 07:02

Just to clear a few things up — it’s only the past few years he’s been like this. He’s never been one to talk about his feelings, but only since being promoted and having more pressure on him at work that he’s been so withdrawn. He wasn’t like this when we met / got married.

I don’t want to change his personality, I want to help him work through his stress or feel confident to find a new job (if that’s what he wants), because he doesn’t seem happy at the moment and it upsets me to see him that way.

I’ve spoken to him about it in the past, he knows that he goes into himself when he’s stressed, but it’s just becoming more common now. At the moment it just seems Monday-Friday we barely speak, weekends he’s back to normal. I don’t like living like that.

Last night he finished work, we ate dinner together (in silence), then he went upstairs for a shower, came back and sat in a different room. We didn’t speak all evening. I eventually went to bed, he came up a few minutes later but still didn’t say a word to me except “goodnight” when I turned my light off. It makes me feel as though I’ve done something wrong and am getting the silent treatment, even though he assures me I haven’t.

Anyway. I agree that counselling could be a good option. I definitely don’t want to continue like this, it’s affecting my mood, my sleep, my work now. I just don’t think it’s fair to be honest.

That would stress me out to the point of fight or flight.
Flowers

tara66 · 03/04/2024 10:30

Perhaps he just needs to unwind for an hour or 6 without someone demanding his attention - which he has probably had all day at work. Perhaps you are too demanding.? I presume he would say ''hello'' if he was not totally drained mentally and physically.

Newbie1011 · 03/04/2024 10:33

Some weird advice on this thread!
my DH can be like this and I sympathise op. I can really relate to the hurtful ness of them being all chirpy and fun on work calls and showing their best self at work and then being miserable at home. It really hurts.
My DH has a very high pressure job, he works so hard for our family, and I think he collapses when he gets home as he can be sulky and non communicative.
it got really bad a few years back and when we talked he admitted he actually was having a lot of anxiety around work. We went to the GP and he was actually depressed. Medication did help.
obviously it doesn’t totally solve the issue and he still has bad weeks. It’s a hard one as we rely on the money. So I’m complicit in the cause really so I try not to get too annoyed. However-
he is currently taking a sabbatical and I’m hoping it will do us good and give him breathing space to find something else also as I don’t think it’s sustainable for him or our family to have this level of stress. It’s an absolute killer. Good luck OP

adviceneeded1990 · 03/04/2024 10:39

MiffedandMiserable · 27/03/2024 16:35

I totally get this and don’t disagree, but I think it’s rude not to even say hello to your wife when you see her.

It’s very rude! I’m a primary teacher and I totally get the decompression thing. If I’ve driven myself in to work then the 20 min drive home is that time for me. If my husband is collecting me then I tell him to get me at 5 but stop working at 4:45 and scroll on my phone, read on kindle app, sit in my classroom in silence for 15 mins. You don’t get to decompress at the expense of manners or your families feelings IMO.

GingerIsBest · 03/04/2024 11:44

As an introvert who has a vey busy job with lots of comms and who WFH so often hs the DC in and out, I sympathise with your DH feeling like he needs to decompress.

BUT, and this is essential, he doesn't get to treat y ou like shit. There are all kinds of things I do to make it a bit easier for myself. I often take 30 minutes at the end of the work day for "commuting" time - I read a book or give myself a face mask or whatever, so that I get that break between work and home.

I would never ever not greet DH and the DC when they come in. that's just rude.

I quite enjoy cooking so will tend to take the lead on dinner, often with something on the tv while I do. this is a good time for me. But then we can sit down and eat dinner together, or at least, most days.

Caroparo52 · 03/04/2024 11:50

Accept he needs to decompress. Agree he comes find you when he's had his alone time. This isn't anything you've done..
it's his low mood
Possibly he's being a bit vindictive taking it out on you. Arrange to be out at yoga or shops or walking dog or pub for first hour he returns.

ALLABOUTTHEWORDS · 03/04/2024 11:50

Check if he is in fact feeling depressed and is perhaps wearing a 'mask' for everyone other than you. many men don't know what it is when it hits them and direct the feelings towards a partner. It's also harder for them to vocalise and share it, the way that we do. Not saying that this is definitely it, I have witnessed this with a partner and it is very similar, especially if there are any work changes/issues.

willWillSmithsmith · 03/04/2024 13:04

tara66 · 03/04/2024 10:30

Perhaps he just needs to unwind for an hour or 6 without someone demanding his attention - which he has probably had all day at work. Perhaps you are too demanding.? I presume he would say ''hello'' if he was not totally drained mentally and physically.

It doesn’t take much to just say hello.

wheo · 03/04/2024 13:15

Fuck this. My ex was like this, he complained in so much detail about his job that I could have done it myself.

Any issues/stresses that I had, just went straight over his head.

Anyone else on the phone and he was bubbly and happy- I got the crumbs. Every day there was a new drama, constantly moaning and groaning.

I stopped taking his calls at lunch time.

I raised this many times with him and he never changed. It was sucking the life out of me as I'm quite a positive person. So I left him a couple of months ago.

Aquamarine1029 · 03/04/2024 13:21

I said hello to him when he came in from work yesterday and he said NOTHING. He didn't actually say a word to me for over 15 minutes even though we were in the same room.

Unless he is deaf, blind, and mute, this is absolutely unacceptable. You're not a fucking table lamp, you're a person who deserves consideration.

I'd be running for the hills, far away from this misery guts of a man.

MightyGoldBear · 03/04/2024 13:54

This is actually abusive. As a grown adult it's his responsibility to communicate his needs and do it in a respectful way. It's his responsibility to manage his stress well, that's not harming others.

MorrisZapp · 03/04/2024 14:15

ALLABOUTTHEWORDS · 03/04/2024 11:50

Check if he is in fact feeling depressed and is perhaps wearing a 'mask' for everyone other than you. many men don't know what it is when it hits them and direct the feelings towards a partner. It's also harder for them to vocalise and share it, the way that we do. Not saying that this is definitely it, I have witnessed this with a partner and it is very similar, especially if there are any work changes/issues.

Are men children? She's already addressed it with him multiple times and he shuts her down. If he's directing it at his partner but cheery enough with everyone else he's just a selfish prick. I've had depression, it doesn't make you horrible to one chosen person.

WormHasTurned · 03/04/2024 19:54

Mmmm my XH was like this. I waited over 30 minutes after he got home to tell him I was pregnant because I knew I had to approach him at the ‘best time’ and it wouldn’t be straight after work!
It drags you down. I did everything I could think of to help him, encouraged him to see his GP, get counselling. He had a health problem and I pushed him to ask for a specialist follow up. Eventually I came to realise that his behaviour was abuse. He could turn it off for others but never for me and DD. He opted out of family life more and more, retreating to game or binge watch TV (and binge alcohol) in the spare room. I gave up trying. I set him free to live the bachelor lifestyle he so clearly craved..
He met someone else within days of moving out and now lives with her and her DC! He seems to treat her better (for now) so whether it was just a bad combination or whether he is putting it on for her and will change down the road, I’m glad he’s an ex. DD and I are much happier without him here.

eatingandeating · 04/04/2024 09:06

Replacement technique/psychology/culture works best with house plants that die on me more often than not despite my best TLC! But with living creatures -- dogs, snails, cats, snakes...TLC might prove more cost effective/happiness effective! With humans it's worth trying TLC (specialist support/advice/care) first before applying replacement/rejection techniques. Long term, TLC may prove most cost/time/happiness effective. If a person's behaviour is/seems to be directed towards/against you personally, then prompt/decisive replacement/rejection/disengagement is the best course of action 😀

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