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Neighbour wants to replace MY fence, I don’t want them to!

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Fencewoes · 27/03/2024 12:33

We have recently had new neighbours move in next door. A month ago they said that they would like to replace all of the fences around their garden (sides and back) which includes replacing mine. They said they will pay for this as they want their garden to look uniform. At first I was on board with this, actually quite pleased at the thought of having a brand new fence as mine is quite old, however they have now said they will be replacing my current 4ft fence with a 6ft fence instead.

I have told them I do not want them to replace my fence with anything higher than 4 ft. They’ve now said that in that case, instead of replacing my fence, they will just build another fence against mine in their garden. So basically, I will retain my current fence, then there will be another in their garden, but I will have double fences on my side! Is this even allowed?

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Isitovernow123 · 31/03/2024 12:06

GreekDogRescue · 31/03/2024 11:51

I feel your pain OP.
I live in an area where there are hedgehogs so I’d be worrying about replacing an old fence with a new fence that prevented access.

Then put a small hole in?

Doris86 · 31/03/2024 12:13

Fencewoes · 27/03/2024 12:41

They have a wide garden so they have said they will just leave a gap between my current fence and their new one.

So it will look dreadful from my side. Two fences with a half metre gap in between. It feels like I am being bullied into accepting their offer to just replace mine with a 6ft fence.

So let them build it. Then remove your fence, and you’ve gained half a metre of garden .

Emmz1510 · 31/03/2024 12:13

You’re right, it will look ridiculous. Don’t know why you wouldn’t just accept a brand new, free, 6 ft fence. Do you want to be able to look into their garden and them yours?

godmum56 · 31/03/2024 12:26

Doris86 · 31/03/2024 12:13

So let them build it. Then remove your fence, and you’ve gained half a metre of garden .

No you do not. An unmarked boudary is still a boundary.

godmum56 · 31/03/2024 12:29

GreekDogRescue · 31/03/2024 11:51

I feel your pain OP.
I live in an area where there are hedgehogs so I’d be worrying about replacing an old fence with a new fence that prevented access.

so do they climb over the low fences but not the higher ones?

missshilling · 31/03/2024 12:32

Emmz1510 · 31/03/2024 12:13

You’re right, it will look ridiculous. Don’t know why you wouldn’t just accept a brand new, free, 6 ft fence. Do you want to be able to look into their garden and them yours?

Not everybody wants to turn their garden into a stockade.

LostGhost · 31/03/2024 12:36

I'd be curious what you'd do if you lived next to us and refused a 6ft fence.

Our dog could clear 4ft with very minimal effort so no doubt you'd soon be knocking about the dog being in your garden.

"community feel" honestly sounds like a horrible nightmare. You're basically all just gossipy and nosey..

Vod · 31/03/2024 12:38

TheAlchemistElixa · 31/03/2024 10:54

Hang on a mo…why would you suggest I move somewhere completely different, but yet you don’t seem to think the OP’s neighbour should have understood the kind of area they were buying into (no other high fences)? Irony.

our row and our surrounding rows have all had low fences since they were built a century ago. No one has yet deviated.

this whole “it’s bureaucratically allowed so therefore it’s my right” kinda thinking is a bit alien to me.

buy hey, horses for courses.

Because your feelings of alienation aren't going to make two shits of difference if you live in an area where people are allowed a 6 foot fence and exercise that right. Any more than OPs will, in the absence of restrictive covenants.

Bluebellsparklypant · 31/03/2024 12:42

If they are going to leave a gap between theirs & your fence can you plant a climber/bush to cover up and soften the higher fence? Although if they are leaving the gap I guess technically the gap is still on their land so might not work out. Or put trailers on top of your fence and grow something

Bluebellsparklypant · 31/03/2024 12:43

Trellis on top …

Doris86 · 31/03/2024 12:43

godmum56 · 31/03/2024 12:26

No you do not. An unmarked boudary is still a boundary.

You’d certainly gain use of it, unless they are going to suddenly remove and rebuild their new fence. Then over time that would become the established fence line and it would probably get forgotten about.

Facetoothpain · 31/03/2024 12:44

I'm failing to see any benefit in the arguement of 'a nice new fence'

For starters the fence will match the neighbour house & clearly mark out their property not the OP's & depending on the style of OP's house/other fences will look out of place anyway ??????????

BUT I agree there's not much you can do about it (other then to remove your crumbling one so you don't end up with 2 fences) & look into planting bushes along the side of it...

WaftherAngelsthroughtheskies · 31/03/2024 12:46

@Fencewoes the reality is, you're going to have a 6ft fence boundary on their side. Rather than an unsightly asymmetric double fence, surely better to let them replace yours as they originally suggested. It might feel like you're being managed to suit them not you, but you will have a much worse outcome if you stick to your guns.

TheBerry · 31/03/2024 12:54

I get why you don’t want it, high fences are ugly af and I don’t know why so many people get them, but it’s perfectly allowable as long as it’s on their land.

TheAlchemistElixa · 31/03/2024 12:54

Vod · 31/03/2024 12:38

Because your feelings of alienation aren't going to make two shits of difference if you live in an area where people are allowed a 6 foot fence and exercise that right. Any more than OPs will, in the absence of restrictive covenants.

Ha! I get you and your meaning, but that’s exactly why I like living somewhere with a community feel. Because we all DO give two shits about each other’s feelings, despite “the absence of restrictive covenants”. And I’m certain that’s in part due to the fact that we don’t wall ourselves off from each other in little pockets of isolated privacy with six foot fences all around us.

but as I say, horses for courses.

Vod · 31/03/2024 13:02

TheAlchemistElixa · 31/03/2024 12:54

Ha! I get you and your meaning, but that’s exactly why I like living somewhere with a community feel. Because we all DO give two shits about each other’s feelings, despite “the absence of restrictive covenants”. And I’m certain that’s in part due to the fact that we don’t wall ourselves off from each other in little pockets of isolated privacy with six foot fences all around us.

but as I say, horses for courses.

Well, if your neighbour love language is low fences then let's hope there are indeed restrictive covenants...

Sbishka · 31/03/2024 13:04

Doris86 · 31/03/2024 12:43

You’d certainly gain use of it, unless they are going to suddenly remove and rebuild their new fence. Then over time that would become the established fence line and it would probably get forgotten about.

You don't 'gain the use of it', you'd be using someone else's land, and when they inevitable move their fence back onto the boundary, they'd 'gain' any plants that you'd put there. It wouldn't change the legal boundary one bit if they didn't get around to it for a couple of years.

OP what it comes down to is that they are allowed to put up a fence, and they've told you their plans to put up the fence whether you let them take yours down or not. I don't agree with other posters that four foot fences make for gossip and nosiness, but six foot fences make for privacy, and that's obviously what they want. So there's nothing to be done really, you lose what you like either way and they gain what they like either way.

TheAlchemistElixa · 31/03/2024 13:11

Vod · 31/03/2024 13:02

Well, if your neighbour love language is low fences then let's hope there are indeed restrictive covenants...

You and your sacred covenants! 🤣

Doris86 · 31/03/2024 13:15

Sbishka · 31/03/2024 13:04

You don't 'gain the use of it', you'd be using someone else's land, and when they inevitable move their fence back onto the boundary, they'd 'gain' any plants that you'd put there. It wouldn't change the legal boundary one bit if they didn't get around to it for a couple of years.

OP what it comes down to is that they are allowed to put up a fence, and they've told you their plans to put up the fence whether you let them take yours down or not. I don't agree with other posters that four foot fences make for gossip and nosiness, but six foot fences make for privacy, and that's obviously what they want. So there's nothing to be done really, you lose what you like either way and they gain what they like either way.

It’s not inevitable that it would be moved back. Fence lines often get moved by a few inches here and there for various reasons. It usually just gets forgotten about and accepted that’s where fence is.

20 years ago my neighbour got a new fence built. Their contractor messed up and I gained a 6 inch strip of garden. Since then that house has had 2 new sets of owners. No one is now going to kick up a fuss, or even realise that the fence is in the wrong place.

No harm in the OP making using of the land and planting a bit of grass or something. Nothing lost if the neighbour does claim it back one day.

raspberryjuiceandpompoms · 31/03/2024 13:18

It’s just a fence OP. Tell me about the ways it ruins the “community feel”? Can’t have a nosey into their garden easily?

Vod · 31/03/2024 13:18

TheAlchemistElixa · 31/03/2024 13:11

You and your sacred covenants! 🤣

Farking legislation!

Facetoothpain · 31/03/2024 13:25

Axx · 27/03/2024 12:52

4 foot fence sounds awful. I'd bite their arm off for a 6 foot one

FFS! They're not offering to put a 6ft new fence around OP's property! (Admittadly your the 20th person to mention this, sorry)

They're putting a 6ft fence around their own property

OP will still need to pay for the other 3/4's if she wants it too match her side as the other boundry fences will still be 4ft & also ensure "her side" of their fence is paintable/decoratable so that it blends in. Not a free fence at all but alot if hassle actually if the street/properties are already sorted

Let them lose a bit of their garden if you can afford to replace your fence later (which sounds like it needs doing) but also request that they sort out maintence of the strip of grass/weeds to stop it overflowing into your side & request an idea of what they have in mind style wise if you change your mind about

LostGhost · 31/03/2024 13:28

TheBerry · 31/03/2024 12:54

I get why you don’t want it, high fences are ugly af and I don’t know why so many people get them, but it’s perfectly allowable as long as it’s on their land.

Whilst I agree high fences are ugly what's the alternative solution to stop the dog escaping ?

Busybee44 · 31/03/2024 13:30

GreekDogRescue · 31/03/2024 11:51

I feel your pain OP.
I live in an area where there are hedgehogs so I’d be worrying about replacing an old fence with a new fence that prevented access.

what?? you can make a small hedgehog entrance in a new fence

TheBerry · 31/03/2024 13:41

LostGhost · 31/03/2024 13:28

Whilst I agree high fences are ugly what's the alternative solution to stop the dog escaping ?

Yes sorry if it’s to contain a dog I understand