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Hunt out of touch?

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BluebellsBluebell · 25/03/2024 09:39

£100k is 'not a huge salary'. Fair comment. Yanbu

Does this show Hunt and the tories are out of touch. Yabu

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BIossomtoes · 26/03/2024 10:27

Everanewbie · 26/03/2024 08:55

You dislike Hunt because he won't snap his fingers and give you what you want. If he said, "fine, @newnamethanks , you're right, £50k was "stolen" from you, here's £50k plus 15 years worth of interest, he wouldn't be tiresome, I'll bet. Unfortunately, if he dishes out £50k to the WASPI women, he'll have to borrow, at the detriment of the rest of the country.

That’s not why I hate Hunt. The WASPI situation predated him by a very big margin and I’m not particularly interested in compensation at all, let alone £50k. His utter mismanagement of the NHS is his biggest crime, he’s a significant factor in its deterioration.

Everanewbie · 26/03/2024 10:31

BIossomtoes · 26/03/2024 10:27

That’s not why I hate Hunt. The WASPI situation predated him by a very big margin and I’m not particularly interested in compensation at all, let alone £50k. His utter mismanagement of the NHS is his biggest crime, he’s a significant factor in its deterioration.

Specifically, what do you think he got wrong as health secretary? His homeopathy obsession is one thing, Jr Dr contracts were controversial. What else?

newnamethanks · 26/03/2024 10:35

'Within the confines of the circumstances we have been put in by successive politicians'.

BIossomtoes · 26/03/2024 10:36

Everanewbie · 26/03/2024 10:31

Specifically, what do you think he got wrong as health secretary? His homeopathy obsession is one thing, Jr Dr contracts were controversial. What else?

Here you go. This saves me endless typing.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/jeremy-hunt-tory-leadership-boris-johnson-nhs-junior-doctors/

SPQRSPQR · 26/03/2024 10:41

It depends doesn't it. In one sense, if you are earning minimum wage £100k is a massive salary.

On the other hand, if (and I hear you Kate Garraway) you are paying £80k care costs a year, it's not a lot of money especially if you live in London.

Everanewbie · 26/03/2024 10:47

newnamethanks · 26/03/2024 10:35

'Within the confines of the circumstances we have been put in by successive politicians'.

I'm not sure the government introduced COVID 19, overreacted to it, in my mind yes, but so did most of the world. Also, I'm not sure the government invited Russia to invade Ukraine and screw up the energy markets too. Both have fueled borrowing and inflation, and has hamstrung the chancellor.

KasperBells · 27/03/2024 07:48

I live not too far from Godalming and do think that 100k although clearly a lot of money it wouldn’t make you feel mega rich around here. I earn nowhere near that but friends that do live in ordinary 3 bedroom houses often with huge mortgages (I was lucky and bought when house prices were a lot cheaper) and often work mega hours so their childcare costs are huge. They also pay a lot of tax.

KasperBells · 27/03/2024 07:54

Just worked out income tax for 100K salary- it’s 32k- bloody hell, I’d feel a bit ripped off paying that much tax with zero help for childcare!!

Vod · 27/03/2024 08:37

KasperBells · 27/03/2024 07:54

Just worked out income tax for 100K salary- it’s 32k- bloody hell, I’d feel a bit ripped off paying that much tax with zero help for childcare!!

Even worse, you might decide to work less because of it. Absolute mess of a policy.

Luna02 · 27/03/2024 21:57

I don’t think 100k is a huge salary, it is a good salary. But if you have a family and a mortgage it won’t make you rich. I was hoping to have an answer on what would be a huge salary in the UK. In my mind this would £400k or 2million net worth.

let’s not forget that the people earning £100k are paying huge taxes which is supporting people on the other end of the spectrum. Working hard should be beneficial and you should be able to get rich with working. There are so many people I know who say they can’t work more than 14 hours or they lose their benefits, the system is broken. People should be encouraged to work to earn a better living.

Figgygal · 27/03/2024 22:03

I've been so surprised by the outrage over his comments this week because I agree with him. Obviously it's a lot of money but depending on your outgoings (housing and childcare particularly) it is easy to see how it doesn't go as far as some people think it does

KasperBells · 28/03/2024 03:45

That is true figgygal- a FT nursery place is £90 a day here- so for two kids at nursery, 5 days a week that’s a staggering £2000 a month, £4000 for two kids. That’s insane isn’t it? Thank god my two are older- nursery was a lot less expensive 10 years ago.

KasperBells · 28/03/2024 03:53

If it were me earning 100k, I would prefer to quit/ reduce my hours significantly than to pay £32k in tax, have no help with childcare and miss out on my kid’s formative years. It hardly seems worth it.

MidnightPatrol · 28/03/2024 07:10

KasperBells · 28/03/2024 03:45

That is true figgygal- a FT nursery place is £90 a day here- so for two kids at nursery, 5 days a week that’s a staggering £2000 a month, £4000 for two kids. That’s insane isn’t it? Thank god my two are older- nursery was a lot less expensive 10 years ago.

This is typical among my friends - around £25k for a full time place.

So £50k after tax for two - which is 80% of a £100k salary.

Everanewbie · 28/03/2024 07:32

MidnightPatrol · 28/03/2024 07:10

This is typical among my friends - around £25k for a full time place.

So £50k after tax for two - which is 80% of a £100k salary.

It’s more than 50% when you take income tax and NI in to account. More like 80-90%

Everanewbie · 28/03/2024 07:33

MidnightPatrol · 28/03/2024 07:10

This is typical among my friends - around £25k for a full time place.

So £50k after tax for two - which is 80% of a £100k salary.

Sorry, ignore that comment. I’m speaking crap. Just repeated your post after misreading it.

alwaysmovingforwards · 28/03/2024 10:54

It's definitely insensitive because it's well above the average.

But is the SE he is technically correct, it's not a huge salary.

KasperBells · 28/03/2024 16:41

I’ve never really thought about it before but if you end up earning 100k at 35 and end up paying over 32k in tax for say 30-35 years until retirement I don’t think it’s completely unreasonable to offer universally assisted childcare for all families, including these ones.
In effect, probably what happens in reality for a lot of these women (it’s nearly always the women!) is that they end up leaving the workforce to become FT parents or do something more flexible and less stressful but less well paid…. And pay less tax in the future.

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