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To think my friend shouldn't have taken this money?

295 replies

Gracelet · 25/03/2024 08:09

She was at a National Trust type place which had a second hand book section. As she was browsing she found £165 hidden in one of the books. Rather than hand it in she just kept it and looked rather shocked when I said it was theft.

My perspective - the book belonged to the shop and therefore so does the money.

Her perspective - just luck she came across it so decided to keep it/the shop should have checked the books.

Just for extra info, she doesn't struggle with money but does live payday to payday.

OP posts:
Autienotnaughtie · 25/03/2024 17:58

If I needed it I might have kept it. But I probably would hand it n

Jenasaurus · 25/03/2024 17:59

Maybe karma will get her. There is a trend at the moment of placing money in a public place and filming to see what the finder does. If they hand it in they are given it for being honest if not they are basically shown in the act on social media. I don’t think it is this but if it is she may be a social media star soon

Medschoolmum · 25/03/2024 17:59

It's theft. That money wasn't hers but she took it anyway.

I would lose respect for her personally.

NWQM · 25/03/2024 18:03

stonebrambleboy · 25/03/2024 08:13

It's theft, in my book😆

See what you did there.....and I agree

LovelyTheresa · 25/03/2024 18:19

Medschoolmum · 25/03/2024 17:59

It's theft. That money wasn't hers but she took it anyway.

I would lose respect for her personally.

Whose was it? There is no way it could get back to the original owner. I call finder's keepers on this one.

funinthesun19 · 25/03/2024 18:20

Jenasaurus · 25/03/2024 17:59

Maybe karma will get her. There is a trend at the moment of placing money in a public place and filming to see what the finder does. If they hand it in they are given it for being honest if not they are basically shown in the act on social media. I don’t think it is this but if it is she may be a social media star soon

Gotta admit I hate those stupid social experiment type things.

Things like… “Would you give a small child your coat if you saw them on their own shivering in the rain at the bus stop?” Yes and I would also call the police because a child has been neglected/is lost 🤷🏼‍♀️. That would be an interesting video for social media.

shoppingshamed · 25/03/2024 18:21

Gettingonmygoat · 25/03/2024 17:41

If i lived close enough i would take it back, if not i would donate it to a local charity.

Take it back where? She found it in the shop

And it's pay cheque, pay cheque (cancel the cheque), no NT shops in America

Tempnamechng · 25/03/2024 18:22

I hope she at least stumped up for an Americano and a Danish whirl in the coffee shop afterwards!

Deerdrinkingtea · 25/03/2024 18:30

user1492757084 · 25/03/2024 12:07

SMILE, you're on candid camera!

Surely the camera in the shop would have captured that rascal friend who is selfish and amoral. She knew it was not her money.

Do you think they sit and watch the footage every night just in case someone has found/stolen some money in a book that day? 😏

Medschoolmum · 25/03/2024 18:31

LovelyTheresa · 25/03/2024 18:19

Whose was it? There is no way it could get back to the original owner. I call finder's keepers on this one.

You can call what you like, but it still wasn't hers to take.

LovelyTheresa · 25/03/2024 18:33

Medschoolmum · 25/03/2024 18:31

You can call what you like, but it still wasn't hers to take.

Maybe not, but this was a victimless crime IMO. I don't think that you can extrapolate from her taking this money that she would steal from the OP, as some PP have suggested.

74Violette · 25/03/2024 18:38

It's particularly shady that she didn't even buy the book! Says a lot about her moral character.

MzHz · 25/03/2024 18:43

Andnowshesatoddler · 25/03/2024 09:18

And where exactly are these books?
I have a few hours spare today I could do with some errr book shopping.

Bad I know, but that’s what I thought

ScierraDoll · 25/03/2024 18:49

Janehasamane · 25/03/2024 08:14

I’d have handed it in, but I’d not really have taken issue if someone kept it. I don’t really see it as the national trusts. But the original owner of the book.

The point is the money doesn't belong to her. Theft - the dishonest appropriation of property belonging to another with the intention to permanently deprive.
All the elements are there.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 25/03/2024 18:51

She should have handed it in. The fact she didn’t shows she has pretty low morals. I think by law she is actually obligated to hand it in so it would be stealing.

Mummame2222 · 25/03/2024 18:54

I’d buy the book but I’d keep the money tbh.

frenchfancy81 · 25/03/2024 18:54

westisbest1982 · 25/03/2024 08:16

I agree with her, it’s not theft. She bought the book.

How do you know?

BeeHappy12 · 25/03/2024 18:54

They wouldn't have been able to track down the person, the NT doesn't need the money and the person behind the till may have just kept it... Probably best your friend just keeps it as a really lucky find, given she lives paycheck to paycheck.

PropertyManager · 25/03/2024 18:56

Gracelet · 25/03/2024 08:19

She didn't buy it

If she had purchased the book technically its not theft, they should have been more careful.

But to take it out of the book is just the same as stealing the book, or anything else.

The honest person hold have handed it over when they saw it.

Delatron · 25/03/2024 18:56

I think it’s theft as it was money on the shop’s property. So it’s the same as if she found it on a shelf in the shop - you can’t take things from a shop.

However, if she’d have bought the book and found it at home it would be less clear cut. The book is hers now. And you know the money would not go back to the owner.

If she had any sense she would have seen the money and then left it where it is and bought the book. To take it out of the book is pure stealing.

Most people would have returned the money even if they’d bought the book though I’m sure.

pearpporridge · 25/03/2024 19:05

DrJoanAllenby · 25/03/2024 08:39

How was the wad of money secured in the book?

We're the pages cut out in the middle to make a hole die the money to go in?

Eight £20 notes and a fiver don't take up much space. Presumably the previous owner had hidden some money for a rainy day. I once cleared the house of an elderly aunt who'd hidden money all over the place. We found several hundred in individual tenners. No idea how much we missed, we certainly didn't check every single book.

LovelyTheresa · 25/03/2024 19:06

ScierraDoll · 25/03/2024 18:49

The point is the money doesn't belong to her. Theft - the dishonest appropriation of property belonging to another with the intention to permanently deprive.
All the elements are there.

'Permanently deprive' from whom, though?

BebbanburgIsMine · 25/03/2024 19:07

@EauNeu

I've been more than broke at times, no heating, hot water, electric or food. I survived quite a few years in a house that was beyond freezing, kept warm (ish) with duvets, hats and gloves. It was hellish.

I still wouldn't have kept money I found in a book like the OP's friend.

Rudicoolcat · 25/03/2024 19:09

stonebrambleboy · 25/03/2024 08:13

It's theft, in my book😆

🤣🤣Bravo.....👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 And before 08.30 on a Monday morning 👍🏼😁

LovelyTheresa · 25/03/2024 19:11

Delatron · 25/03/2024 18:56

I think it’s theft as it was money on the shop’s property. So it’s the same as if she found it on a shelf in the shop - you can’t take things from a shop.

However, if she’d have bought the book and found it at home it would be less clear cut. The book is hers now. And you know the money would not go back to the owner.

If she had any sense she would have seen the money and then left it where it is and bought the book. To take it out of the book is pure stealing.

Most people would have returned the money even if they’d bought the book though I’m sure.

I wouldn't have done as she did, I would have bought the book, and if I was feeling well off I would have handed the money in to the shop if I found it before I bought the book. If I had bought the book and taken it home and then found the money, there is no way I would have returned it as it would now be my money. Again, if I were feeling flush I would donate the money rather than just spend it on whatever, but if I felt tight that month I'd consider it a gift from the universe and spend it without a second thought. I don't know what the people who insist that this is theft and awful behaviour are really thinking. It isn't like shoplifting, which drives up prices for honest customers.

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