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AIBU to feel that some parents just want their children at Uni even if its a BS degree

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 20:57

Hello
I come from a background/culture where education is seen as very important and going to a university is a must (My parents came to England in 1962)

Yes, more and more jobs are seeking degrees and often even when not necessary. There are many professions where you must have a degree to join the course training

However, what I and my family call BS degrees, to name but a few

Arts
Studio Fine arts
Arth History
Business studies
Exercise Science
Fashion

I cant see what jobs they will get as there must be other routes, less intensive and extensive to get the job they want

When I've talked about mickey-mouse degrees at parties etc and not be aware that some parents children or they may have studied them, they start to defend the indefensible.
The biggest bS degree is 'Politics' - WTH!! Sadly, we know a few people whose children have done that and ended up running the family shop/business - total waste of a degree

There are other degrees just as crappy - they should be banned IMO

AIBU to think these degrees are a waste of time and often do not aid the person into a job in that field?

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HighLlamas · 29/05/2024 09:17

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 29/05/2024 09:10

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator, I get that you imagine this is some kind of ‘gotcha!’ Maybe try to develop your basic political literacy and consider the ideology of the publication you’re linking. It’s unfortunate that you’re entirely incapable of grasping the irony of your own posts.

iLovee · 29/05/2024 09:25

I don't think you are as clever as you think you are...

Festivemoose · 29/05/2024 09:32

You came back to resurrect this? Grow up
🙄

PinkArt · 29/05/2024 09:34

Good luck to any 18 year olds trying to do their 'proper' degrees and juggling their mandatory unpaid job once a month. That STEM coursework might need to go on hold for a while.
The Tories clearly hate young people because they don't vote for them. They were happy enough to allow universities to change £9k a year for those 'BS degrees' - if they cared about young people and the quality of their higher education then perhaps that's where they should look first.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 29/05/2024 09:35

IMO, at times, a worthless degree can result in delusions of grandeur where the beholder of the said degree, sees theirself a better than those that do not hold a degree.

The metal of any decent degree is, you end up in a job you like and that pays you a good salary and you have the opportunity to around the world with these skills should you wish to

I'm sure you've all met people with worthless degrees and a massive debt.

A degree is only useful if it is going to land you in a well paid job, otherwise, why waste several years of your life and walk out with a 60k debt

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Doteycat · 29/05/2024 09:42

Still talking out your backside i see.

HighLlamas · 29/05/2024 09:50

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 29/05/2024 09:35

IMO, at times, a worthless degree can result in delusions of grandeur where the beholder of the said degree, sees theirself a better than those that do not hold a degree.

The metal of any decent degree is, you end up in a job you like and that pays you a good salary and you have the opportunity to around the world with these skills should you wish to

I'm sure you've all met people with worthless degrees and a massive debt.

A degree is only useful if it is going to land you in a well paid job, otherwise, why waste several years of your life and walk out with a 60k debt

You keep saying this. Education has a worth entirely independent of what job someone does subsequently. And your posts are continually reminders of your own lack of general education, your shrivelled worldview, your inability to understand politics and ideology, or to ponder the biases of different media outlets.

Comefromaway · 29/05/2024 09:53

How funny this has been resurrected. One of the subjects the OP derided was sports & excercise science, the very degree dd is about to embark on as a mature student. She has a specific vocational goal in mind.

But anyway. At work someone I hadn't seen for years popped by and we got to talking about our kids. Turns out his son did sports science at a lower ranked university. He went straight into a good paying job and then worked his way up. He does some amazing things and earns an absolute fortune. But also most of the other students who graduated with him are also in really good jobs, many directly related, some not.

AIstolemylunch · 29/05/2024 13:13

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 29/05/2024 09:35

IMO, at times, a worthless degree can result in delusions of grandeur where the beholder of the said degree, sees theirself a better than those that do not hold a degree.

The metal of any decent degree is, you end up in a job you like and that pays you a good salary and you have the opportunity to around the world with these skills should you wish to

I'm sure you've all met people with worthless degrees and a massive debt.

A degree is only useful if it is going to land you in a well paid job, otherwise, why waste several years of your life and walk out with a 60k debt

awwwww, did we mess up our A levels and not get into uni?

As per last time, millions of well-paid jobs require simply "a degree"

You still sound like a bitter idiot.

AIstolemylunch · 29/05/2024 13:14

theirself isn't a word btw. Perhaps you should have concentrated a bit more on education.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 29/05/2024 13:29

Also mettle rather than metal.

You see those of us with "pointless" humanities degrees can spell.

Zimunya · 29/05/2024 13:42

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 21/03/2024 09:36

As I said, there are crappy degrees and I'm standing by that
For many that go to uni and end up I debt, no job then no job I what they went to uni for, they'd been better off not going

Yes, some parents still want kids to go to uni and have little understanding of the subject their kids have chosen or what the job opps are where they live as most cant afford to move

There are jobs that are very limited.

The gov had to step in and consider putting a cap on certain degrees, why is that?

On Page 1 you state, "I too can swear but its not my style. I was taught by my parents and this was reinforced at school and uni, to "swear. it shows you've lost the debate/argument."

And yet here you are using "crappy" quite cheerfully. Many people still consider that to be a swear word, and even if one does not consider that it is swearing, it is certainly vulgar. For those who do consider "crappy" to be a swear word, they can accept, by your own logic, that you have lost the debate / argument.

vodkaredbullgirl · 29/05/2024 13:45

🤔 wonder why this came back up.

takemeawayagain · 29/05/2024 13:55

Are you sure you don't have 'delusions of grandeur' OP, looking down on all those people with 'mickey-mouse' degrees?

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ghostyslovesheets · 29/05/2024 14:48

Well if there is ONE thing you do actually know about @DistinguishedSocialCommentator it's delusions of grandeur

HighLlamas · 29/05/2024 14:49

ghostyslovesheets · 29/05/2024 14:48

Well if there is ONE thing you do actually know about @DistinguishedSocialCommentator it's delusions of grandeur

Well, yes. And weirdly overinvested royal family threads with zero irony.

Magnastorm · 29/05/2024 14:55

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 29/05/2024 09:35

IMO, at times, a worthless degree can result in delusions of grandeur where the beholder of the said degree, sees theirself a better than those that do not hold a degree.

The metal of any decent degree is, you end up in a job you like and that pays you a good salary and you have the opportunity to around the world with these skills should you wish to

I'm sure you've all met people with worthless degrees and a massive debt.

A degree is only useful if it is going to land you in a well paid job, otherwise, why waste several years of your life and walk out with a 60k debt

Yet another dose of ignorant bullshit. Definately worth bumping an old thread for.

LavenderPup · 29/05/2024 15:01

The funniest thing is you’re quoting the daily mail……. a joke of a paper lol.

PinkArt · 29/05/2024 15:14

I'd feel sorry for the OP that they are so narrow minded if it didn't provide such insane threads. I bet those of us with BS degrees (definitely not swearing if you abreviates, right?) are also responsible for those dreadful 40 year mortgages the OP decries, as they're all we can get with our poor education.

RobertaFirmino · 29/05/2024 15:46

University isn't about the course at all. It's about getting shitfaced and copping off.

Admittedly, others may have attended more prestigious seats of learning than me but on the whole, university teaches you a lot about life.

Genevieva · 29/05/2024 16:03

Well your list of degrees aren’t Mickey Mouse.

Arts: not sure what you mean. Performing Arts? The Liberal Arts? Both are important in different ways. The former for an acting career, the later for having a strong command of our cultural heritage, including European Philosophy, literature, history and politics.

Studio Fine arts: as with performing arts, this is a traditional path into a career as an artist and has been for a long time.

Arth History: art history is a very academic subject akin to the liberal arts. some universities require you to study a modern foreign language like Italian or French to further your studies.

Business studies: an intellectual look at business and economics is a valid area of academic study and might be useful for someone going into business, even though it’s not essential.

Exercise Science: there are a lot of degrees in this area. Sports Science and its related areas are a growing industry because there is so much money in sport.

Fashion: again, there are valid careers from making wedding dresses through to being a designer for a fashion house or a buyer for a High Street brand.

what do you think is valid? Only STEM degrees?

HighLlamas · 29/05/2024 16:08

RobertaFirmino · 29/05/2024 15:46

University isn't about the course at all. It's about getting shitfaced and copping off.

Admittedly, others may have attended more prestigious seats of learning than me but on the whole, university teaches you a lot about life.

I went to Oxford and still did my fair share of getting shitfaced and copping off. Same as anywhere else, but more punts involved in the shitfacedness. And sometimes the copping off too.

Youcannotbeseriousreally · 29/05/2024 16:09

You sounds like a stuck up bitch.