AIBU to feel that some parents just want their children at Uni even if its a BS degree

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Hello
I come from a background/culture where education is seen as very important and going to a university is a must (My parents came to England in 1962)

Yes, more and more jobs are seeking degrees and often even when not necessary. There are many professions where you must have a degree to join the course training

However, what I and my family call BS degrees, to name but a few

Arts
Studio Fine arts
Arth History
Business studies
Exercise Science
Fashion

I cant see what jobs they will get as there must be other routes, less intensive and extensive to get the job they want

When I've talked about mickey-mouse degrees at parties etc and not be aware that some parents children or they may have studied them, they start to defend the indefensible.
The biggest bS degree is 'Politics' - WTH!! Sadly, we know a few people whose children have done that and ended up running the family shop/business - total waste of a degree

There are other degrees just as crappy - they should be banned IMO

AIBU to think these degrees are a waste of time and often do not aid the person into a job in that field?

She has claimed not to have children on a different thread (with a very slightly differently mis-spelled username, she has at least 3 on the go so it is harder to AS her).

Education is never wasted.

I wouldn't change my music degree for anything. I did an astrophysics degree (part-time) later in life. That's probably a bullshit degree too according to the OP.

I like bullshit subjects I suppose.

Colour me shocked! I don't understand why anyone would argue against education though. I don't get what kick you'd get out of it. I admit to having a limited imagination.

Open your mind, not everyone wants to be a doctor, lawyer or accountant. What an awful world we would live I if everyone followed your views. What about books, I presume you do read, art etc. I think you and your parents are sad.

Ps what arrogance and how offensive to classify degrees you call bullshit as Mickey mouse qualifications.

What about books, I presume you do read

I’m not sure I’d assume that, based on OP’s posts

What is your job now?

She might read, but she definitely doesn't write.

Has she been to university under the other names? Because she has on this thread, and yet hasn't on another.
It's a real shame she clearly can't see my posts as I'm sure she'd be able to clarify the confusion that I've asked her about four times now.

There’s some weird sock puppetry afoot I feel.

I also think university can be a good way to ease from childhood into adulthood for many young people.
it was for me. Without uni I doubt I would even have left my home city at 18,
let alone gone to live in another country. I was chucked in the deep
end but in a way where I still had some structure.

I agree.

I actually think there should be some way that this side of things could be replicated for young people who don’t go down the university route, if they want it.

😄

Have you a degree in being a dick? I imagine you got a 1st judging by your post.

I find it ironic that you think people advise their children to go to university so they can brag and all you do is brag about your children. It’s really sad that you have nothing to say for yourself in life, just brag brag brag about your rich children. Mine are still young but I hope they grow up to be rich in more things than just money. I hope they are rich in love, happiness, fulfilment and kindness to others. I would never stand around at a family gathering with them and dismiss other people’s education or jobs. That’s not my idea of a good family chat. I hope they would never be so snide and judgemental. I’d think I have failed as a parent if they had this kind of attitude, no matter how much money they earn!

Hello

Many thanks for sharing a great post, an honest post and you remind me of us, ie your daughter and the advice you gave. Thats all you can do, give your loved ones and any other you care about your best advice.
Re our children, its well documented in this thread.
Times have changed since the two kids that did not have a degree and left school at 16 with GCSE's as they wanted to work in pooters. They have advised me that it was almost impossible to get to where they were before their degree as there was a pay ceiling of about 80k.

As I said somewhere I the thread, these days you need a degree to work is a fast food outlet as may in the city, all types of office-based work is seeking degrees. However, in the last couple of years again, people at the top, older people are recognising the fact they may be losing out great staff just because they lack a degree and some degrees can be total BS

About being "diplomatic." Thank you, I do try to do that and loads of abuse here aimed at me, my family, my circumstances and some have even suggested I'm a drunk and a carer. However, it just shows how little some people know or are will to accept that there are degrees that a total bS and the debt that comes with them and the lack of jobs - if these people had better advice, maybe they'd be better off. But like you have tried to advice, I know that not everyone listens to good advice

You sound like a great parent and IMO, your daughter will end up in a job she enjoys and as importantly able to support herself and new family when the time is right

Wishing you and your daughter/family an even brighter future.

inc the 30k debt and no job at the end of it, especially if it was a mickeys mouse degree?

Well you hardly need to be a maths graduate to work out that both those examples are legitimate "real-world facts". Just basic numeracy and comprehension skills will suffice. If you are struggling with those though ...

A person who is on Plan 2 for paying back their loan (most people who have done their first degree since 2012) will pay back 9% of whatever they earn over the threshold of £27,295. So someone earning £30K would be paying back 9% of £2,705 each year. Divided into 12 monthly instalments that would be around £20 a month.

The poster who is claiming that loan repayments are £16 a month for some one earning £30K per annum is correct

The poster claiming to be repaying £300 a month must be earning around £70K per annum and, if so, is also correct.

However, it just shows how little some people know or are will to accept that there are degrees that a total bS and the debt that comes with them and the lack of jobs - if these people had better advice, maybe they'd be better off. But like you have tried to advice, I know that not everyone listens to good advice

It is literally my job to know about university, jobs and the graduate labour market. I have a masters and a PhD in Career Development and over 20 years experience.

Your 'advice' is shocking. You've demonstrated time and time again that you don't know anything about how the graduate labour market and employment in general works.
Nobody should be taking your advice.

I would have liked my boys to go to uni as I choose money over education and although I’ve done very well I’ve always though ‘what if’. They both refused as they were also money hungry (probably my fault). They often tell me about their friends who went to uni to do what we call none degrees and are working in dead end jobs. My boys are self made millionaires and I’m very proud, but I still miss not having a cap and gown photo 🙄😂

Didn't you mention business studies in your OP?

Ps your spelling and grammar is atrocious.

That article also doesn’t say that all graduates of those degrees go into the jobs that the degree trains them for - just that they are employed.

You're probably from a culture where a degree is seen as quite amazing whereas in the west a BA/Bsc is now pretty basic and many people have postgraduate qualifications.

That article also doesn’t say that all graduates of those degrees go into the jobs that the degree trains them for - just that they are employed..

It's also drawing on data that's nearly 10 years old!!
Prospects Luminate's 'what graduates do' is more up to date.