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To think that all UK countries should have the same number of public holidays?

64 replies

HelenaWaiting · 18/03/2024 23:08

Currently, Northern Ireland has ten public holidays, Scotland has nine, whilst England and Wales lag behind on eight. How is this not discrimination? Surely if we are one nation we should enjoy the same number of statutory holidays? These might be at different times, reflecting the culture of the nation, but should add up to the same number. Shouldn't they?

OP posts:
JockTamsonsBairns · 19/03/2024 01:27

Wow. England thinking they're hard done to 😂

Crimblecrumblerules · 19/03/2024 01:53

As my 28 days leave includes 8 days bank holidays I don't particularly want another specified day I have to take out of my allowance so they would have to increase statutory leave which I doubt would happen.

MaloneMeadow · 19/03/2024 02:07

Ok, we’ll swap our extra bank holidays for your extra government funding! Good luck getting a hip replacement though.. you’ll be waiting ten years on the NHS if you want to live by NI’s ways

TrínaCheile · 19/03/2024 02:28

😂
I do love our extra holidays in NI

to be fair though they’re about one of the only positives here at the moment..

discrimination.. 😂

HelenaWaiting · 19/03/2024 03:17

ReadingSoManyThreads · 18/03/2024 23:56

I had to look! 12 😂 @HelenaWaiting instead of being envious of Northern Ireland's public holiday's don't hear you being envious of The Troubles though, take it out on Gibraltar.

Pretty gratuitously offensive, frankly. Why would anyone be jealous of the Troubles? I can't begin to express how foully and deliberately hurtful your post is.

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HelenaWaiting · 19/03/2024 03:24

MamaWillYouBuyMeAWillYouBuyMeABanana · 18/03/2024 23:29

England are not discriminated against in the UK 🤣

There's so much wrong with that sentiment I don't even know where to begin.

I thought it was a reasonable point that we should all have the same number of holidays. Maybe discrimination was the wrong word, but I didn't expect a pile on, or so much anger. I won't post again. So sorry. I have depression and was just looking to start a conversation.

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donteatthedaisies0 · 19/03/2024 03:24

You'll never get rid of other cultures in the UK no matter how hard you try , we're not all English . There is Scottish , welsh and NI and their BH relate to them .

WandaWonder · 19/03/2024 03:28

HelenaWaiting · 18/03/2024 23:08

Currently, Northern Ireland has ten public holidays, Scotland has nine, whilst England and Wales lag behind on eight. How is this not discrimination? Surely if we are one nation we should enjoy the same number of statutory holidays? These might be at different times, reflecting the culture of the nation, but should add up to the same number. Shouldn't they?

Discrimination are you serious?

They could always remove some so everyone gets 8 then, that would give you something to complain about

VestibuleVirgin · 19/03/2024 05:21

Why do banks need anymore holdays? They get more than I do.
😀

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 19/03/2024 06:24

donteatthedaisies0 · 18/03/2024 23:44

Who is lacking what holidays? Do you want St . Andrews day off ? ah maybe you'd like two at Hogmanay ? Actually we Scotland don't have good Friday off 😧. Maybe we can have that as well .

To be fair, she presumably means having St George's day as a holiday in England, and St David's day as a holiday in Wales. Which I don't think as many people would disagree with if she hadn't made the ridiculous discrimination argument.

Beezknees · 19/03/2024 06:31

Discrimination was a poor choice of words but jeez stop jumping on the OP. I don't think she meant any harm! People are putting words in her mouth.

I guess St George's day could be a bank holiday but I can't see it happening.

Lifebeganat50 · 19/03/2024 06:33

Outthedoor24 · 19/03/2024 01:04

Most companies give the same number of holidays regardless of where the employees are based.

I don't think anyone even gets St Andrews day off - even the schools don't take it. It exists in name only.

Angus Council have it as a public holiday

betterangels · 19/03/2024 06:34

Hilariously unreasonable. They're separate countries.

Namemchangeforthispostonly101 · 19/03/2024 06:36

This reply has been withdrawn

The OP has privacy concerns, so we've agreed to take this down now.

Hobbesmanc · 19/03/2024 06:44

Poor poster is getting a hard time. Some proper point scoring. I'm sure most English employees would like a couple more bank holidays. It's a long slog from August bank holiday till Christmas. Can we sneak one in there.

ShoesoftheWorld · 19/03/2024 06:44

Chersfrozenface · 19/03/2024 01:23

In Germany there are only 9 public holidays the whole country gets.

But the regions all have there own. Bavaria has an extra 4 and the city of Augsburg an extra 5.

Yup. And Berlin gets International Women's Day.

ivegot4cats · 19/03/2024 06:57

My team are spread between Scotland and Wales, no one in England. Guess who's bank holidays we have to take... English...

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 19/03/2024 07:03

ivegot4cats · 19/03/2024 06:57

My team are spread between Scotland and Wales, no one in England. Guess who's bank holidays we have to take... English...

Well those are the Welsh bank holidays as well.

MamaWillYouBuyMeAWillYouBuyMeABanana · 19/03/2024 07:18

HelenaWaiting · 19/03/2024 03:24

I thought it was a reasonable point that we should all have the same number of holidays. Maybe discrimination was the wrong word, but I didn't expect a pile on, or so much anger. I won't post again. So sorry. I have depression and was just looking to start a conversation.

I'm sorry you're going through some stuff right now op, it sounds like you're having a tough time and I really hope things improve for you soon 💐

There's a lot of strong feelings involved, and using the word discrimination towards England is very emotive for a lot of people. It probably is better to hide the thread.

SparkyBlue · 19/03/2024 07:24

Discrimination was the wrong word but the poster is getting a hard time. I totally get what she was trying to say and I don't think any offence was intended at all. I'm in Ireland and we now have a new bank holiday for St Brigids day on the first Monday in February (this was only our second year of it) and it's fab as everyone is just over the misery of January then we have st Patrick's day in March and then Easter so a bank holiday every month at the start of the year.

DoorPath · 19/03/2024 07:32

Jesus, can people lay off the OP? What a foul pile on. Poor you, OP.

SevenSeasOfRhye · 19/03/2024 07:53

I think we should all get 2nd Jan - another day's grace before you have to accept the Christmas holidays are over and emerge into cold, dark January.

One between August and Christmas would also be nice; perhaps Remembrance Day would be a good occasion to mark - 11th November or if 11 November falls on the weekend, the Monday after it.

MaloneMeadow · 19/03/2024 08:30

DoorPath · 19/03/2024 07:32

Jesus, can people lay off the OP? What a foul pile on. Poor you, OP.

Well… if someone makes a ridiculously ignorant + outlandish MN post what do you think is going to happen? I wouldn’t say that people rightly calling OP out for thinking that England is somehow ‘discriminated’ against is a pile on

coureur · 19/03/2024 08:40

No, they shouldn't. The constituent nations of the UK all have very different histories, and it's right that these be celebrated in their public holidays. In Germany every single state has different public holidays that reflect their history - in fact some cities even have public holidays that just apply to that city (which can be a bit weird if you live just outside the city boundary). The same in the US. Local history should be celebrated, not steamrollered into uniformity.

Nolongera · 19/03/2024 08:42

Well, there is the Barnett formula which ensures higher level of public spending in Scotland, NI and Wales.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_formula#:~:text=The%20Barnett%20formula%20is%20a,Scotland%20and%20Wales%2C%20as%20appropriate.

England ( outside London) bus passes at 67, other nations in the union get them at 60.

Until quite recently we lived in Scotland, just over the border, and the extra spending was obvious in provision of services compared to Northumberland.

Barnett formula - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_formula#:~:text=The%20Barnett%20formula%20is%20a,Scotland%20and%20Wales%2C%20as%20appropriate.