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To be angry at the comments DD is getting?

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PaperDoIIs · 16/03/2024 18:05

DD is y7 and only 12! She has some good (female)friends with whom she sometimes holds hands or links arms with. She's told me she had comments from random (adult)people before, not nasty but definitely implying a relationship with the other girl rather than just friendship. She also mentioned she's getting comments and questions at school about being a "lez".

One of the girls won't do it anymore as she is too embarrassed. DD finds it upsetting, but not enough to stop.

Any suggestions with how to support her through this would be greatly appreciated. We had the chats about people minding their own business, she's not doing anything wrong, they're weird for caring or drawing conclusions, even if she was it's nothing to be ashamed of and no one's business etc.

AIBU to be angry that a nice,sweet friendship between pre teens ffs is viewed through a reductive and ultimately sexualised lens? They're just holding hands or linking arms!

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RatatouillePie · 17/03/2024 12:31

caringcarer · 16/03/2024 21:55

I think if I saw 2 12 year olds holding hands I'd assume a relationship too, whether males or females. I don't think many DC hold hands with friends past about 9 years old. I do occasionally see DC linking arms though. That seems less intimate to me.

I work in a secondary school.

Lots walk round holding hands from Y7 up to Y11, and sometimes even the 6th form girls. It's quite a normal friend thing to do! I only see girls doing this though. Not boys. They prefer shoving each other!

PaperDoIIs · 17/03/2024 14:59

Lots walk round holding hands from Y7 up to Y11, and sometimes even the 6th form girls. It's quite a normal friend thing to do! I only see girls doing this though. Not boys. They prefer shoving each other!

This is more my experience. I didn't realise so many posters would view it as unusual or "must be a relationship " thing.

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DustyDustyDusty · 17/03/2024 20:16

Smerpsmorp · 16/03/2024 20:46

I personally at school would tell two girls to not hold hands walking down the corridor, because it was unprofessional.

I really don’t think it’s a big deal - so she doesn’t hold hands?

obviously the homophobia is no good and should be reported, but why is she holding hands in school? Just don’t do it! We have a no physical contact rule because.

What do you mean unprofessional? She's 12.

Smerpsmorp · 17/03/2024 21:17

DustyDustyDusty · 17/03/2024 20:16

What do you mean unprofessional? She's 12.

She’s at school - learning how to be in a professional environment, preparing for the world of work. Corridors are not places to hold hands - especially with the fact that some students are in relationships, PDA is not appropriate for a school. Plus it’s just easier to have no contact than to differentiate between hugs and play fights with rowdy boys.

Sure I won’t win here though, so I’ll just let you tell me I am being unreasonable.

MissingMoominMamma · 17/03/2024 21:22

Fucking hell, why can’t kids just be kids anymore? I always linked arms with friends- still do in my 50s.

Tell her to look puzzled every time someone comments.

MissingMoominMamma · 17/03/2024 21:24

Smerpsmorp · 17/03/2024 21:17

She’s at school - learning how to be in a professional environment, preparing for the world of work. Corridors are not places to hold hands - especially with the fact that some students are in relationships, PDA is not appropriate for a school. Plus it’s just easier to have no contact than to differentiate between hugs and play fights with rowdy boys.

Sure I won’t win here though, so I’ll just let you tell me I am being unreasonable.

High school is not learning how to be in a professional environment, it’s a place where kids go to learn and socialise. They are kids, not accountants!

DoIdriveaVauxhallZafira · 17/03/2024 21:28

This was a thing when I was that age. Ridiculous to use lesbianism as an insult and can't believe they're still doing it!

Tell her to report them for homophobia.

JayJayEl · 06/09/2024 23:47

SapphireOpal · 16/03/2024 19:08

Because a lot of Year 7s are experimenting with relationships? I would assume two Y7s holding hands might well be "more than friends" irrespective of sex (although I wouldn't be that surprised if I was told they were just friends). Most of the children I know who are that age or older would generally not have held hands with a platonic friend by secondary age.

Wouldn't you assume a girl and boy that age holding hands were "girlfriend and boyfriend"?

What the hell? All assumptions aside, fully grown adults should NOT be making comments based on how they do or do not perceive a CHILD'S relationship.

JayJayEl · 06/09/2024 23:52

namechange55465 · 16/03/2024 21:14

But "in your day", gay people would not have held hands as often BECAUSE of the comments they would get. So you'd just assume most pairs of women holding hands would be friends, not lovers. I'd probably assume the opposite nowadays.

No-one is imposing "sexual thoughts" - it is very very common for Year 7s to have "girlfriends" or "boyfriends" which usually doesn't involve much more than holding hands. And yes, holding hands can be platonic but often it's not. I don't think it's that strange that a few people have assumed they are "girlfriends" as they are holding hands.

People can assume they are GFs as much as they like. It's the comments that are the issue here. How many complete strangers would comment on a boy and a girl (aged 12 - CHILDREN) holding hands? "You make a nice couple." That's barmy!

JayJayEl · 06/09/2024 23:52

Have just noticed this thread is old - MN recommend it to me! 😬

Galoop · 06/09/2024 23:54

How bizarre, I used to do this with my friends in his school around age 17, we all had boyfriends so nothing sexual. We more linked arms, I don't think we held hands. Odd that people would comment on it anyway!

PaperDoIIs · 07/09/2024 08:00

JayJayEl · 06/09/2024 23:52

Have just noticed this thread is old - MN recommend it to me! 😬

Haha it's ok.

As an update, it all escalated into proper meanness/bullying(face to face and online). I involved the school who were brilliant and I also talked to some of the parents as I knew them from primary school. It all settled down as far as we both know. Yes they still hold hands/link arms and the group got bigger, there's about 4/5 of them now. All still purely platonic.

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