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WWYD re friend and favour?

26 replies

SmarmIsTheCharm · 16/03/2024 17:36

My friend asked me to help her with a project. It’s something I do in my line of work so I was happy to help and I was excited to see the end result. The design was all hers.

The project has to be completed in three very specific stages; she wanted me to help with the second and third stages, but she was asking me for my thoughts and opinions before she started the first stage which I happily supported her with.

She wanted the project completed quickly for a special date, but appeared to keep putting it off. Eventually, she said she had started it and along the way, she was occasionally asking for my advice and knowledge on the project.

Meanwhile, I started preparing the second stage of the project, using my own time and resources.

A few weeks in, I started to get the feeling my friend was further along in the project than she was telling me due to the questions she was asking me (such as what materials she would use if she were to start stage two, how long should stage two take and so on).

It’s her project, so I asked her if she had made a start on stage two and she said no. She continued to involve me in the collaboration of the project and it was fun. I was providing her with tips and resources to help her with stage one of her project.

A few more weeks passed by and during an email exchange, she accidentally let slip that she had almost completed stage two of the project.

When I questioned this, she brushed it off. I politely pointed out that I had spent my lunch breaks sourcing materials and my own time on the project. I explained that as there are very specific stages to the project, it’s difficult for me to gauge what I’m supposed to be doing if she isn’t open to where she is with designs and so on. Again, she brushed it off so I left it be and stopped working on my part of the project.

Two days ago, she sent me a message asking for my supplier discount code so she can get started on ordering materials for stage 3 of the project. I have yet to reply.

I’m not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, it is her project and I don’t have the right to know anything about it. However, on the other hand, I feel she’s used me for my knowledge and lied by omission by letting me continuously think she was further behind on the project than she actually was; therefore wasting my time and making me feel very foolish as I genuinely thought I was helping her.

WIBU and petty to not give her the discount code? WIBU to explain to her that I can no longer assist?

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WhoaJayShettybambalam · 16/03/2024 17:40

She lied. She didn’t just not tell you, she actually lied. So not it’s not petty to not share a code or offer support.

Luckydog7 · 16/03/2024 17:42

Hmm. Tempting to just not reply.

Is this a friendship you want to continue? If so refusing to help may end it but then the way she has acted may have tainted things?

easylifeneeded · 16/03/2024 17:42

Are you self employed? Is your line of work something that can be replicated? Are you sure your friend isn’t planning on setting up in competition if either of the answers to the above are yes?

SmarmIsTheCharm · 16/03/2024 17:52

I’m not self employed and it’s not something copy worthy. I have access to the experience and materials via my line of work.

It’s very tempting not to reply. She knows I’m away this weekend so I’m expecting her to call on Monday to check I got her message.

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MummyFriend · 16/03/2024 18:50

It's hard to really understand when your post is so vague. I would normally say that's a good thing if you don't need to devote any of your time to her project.

Definitely don't give away your supplier discount code though. You could say to her something asking the lines of if you get caught abusing the code they can close your account, so you can't do anything to jeopardise it by allowing other people to use it.

MummyFriend · 16/03/2024 18:52

Agree with a PP though. I know you say it's not copy-worthy but I've seen this happen sooooooo many times. Friends can be such CFers!

CharmedCult · 16/03/2024 18:54

“My employer doesn’t allow me to share our discount code”

or

“The supplier discount code is unique to me, if they find out I’ve shared it they’ll withdraw my discount”

Thats all you need to say.

JMSA · 16/03/2024 18:54

I don't understand. Why would she lie?

SmarmIsTheCharm · 16/03/2024 19:26

Unfortunately she knows the code is a family and friends discount. I need a polite way of just saying no , but I don’t want to appear petty. However, I am a bit hurt with the way she’s gone about things; she’s wasted my time knowing full well when I was discussing materials with her, that she had already completed that part of the project.

I just feel rather stupid and at 47 years old, I don’t have the patience for such nonsense.
I don’t know why she lied. It’s a pointless lie.

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Rainbowshine · 16/03/2024 19:34

“Sorry but I can’t help you with the discount code, you will have to sort out your own.”

If asked why, “Have you sorted out your own code, I can’t help you with mine “

Just keep repeating that, don’t explain, justify etc.

She’ll work it out for herself that she abused your goodwill and if not she is either dense or totally entitled, neither of which is your problem.

Allofaflutter · 16/03/2024 19:43

Surely the only message is please don’t contact me again.

thistimelastweek · 16/03/2024 19:45

I'd probably say something along the lines of not feeling included in the project for quite some time and it's probably best if friend flies solo from here on.

All the best and all that.

Snowfalling · 16/03/2024 19:47

thistimelastweek · 16/03/2024 19:45

I'd probably say something along the lines of not feeling included in the project for quite some time and it's probably best if friend flies solo from here on.

All the best and all that.

This. if she insists, tell her you're very upset she wasted your time, she clearly doesn't value your time, you don't owe her anything.

Scaffoldingisugly · 16/03/2024 19:48

Just text who's this?. She isn't a friend...

Allfortheloveofabiscuit · 16/03/2024 19:51

I'd explain that as she has been completing the project solo and has lied about needing your involvement, you don't feel comfortable sharing the friends and family code anymore. If she asks further questions just repeat

DSD9472 · 16/03/2024 20:30

OP- Why do you think she would lie to you about it? Was she worried you'd take over or want YOUR designs instead of hers? I can't think of why she'd dot that and then have the cheek to ask for the discount code.
Is it a friendship you'd want to continue?

If you want it to continue, I'd re-iterate how much time you spent on it, and she could have just said she was doing her own thing- then say the code is no longer available as she has clearly done her own thing etc
If you don't want to continue the relationship- IF you bother to reply to her text, just just the code is no longer available. End of.

Geebray · 16/03/2024 20:35

Meanwhile, I started preparing the second stage of the project, using my own time and resources.

I don't understand this. Did she actually ask you to do that? Or did you just decide to? And if so, when was the collaboration going to happen?

Why are you blaming her for something that you decided to crack on with separately?

Geebray · 16/03/2024 20:37

A few weeks in, I started to get the feeling my friend was further along in the project than she was telling me due to the questions she was asking me (such as what materials she would use if she were to start stage two, how long should stage two take and so on).

It’s her project, so I asked her if she had made a start on stage two and she said no. She continued to involve me in the collaboration of the project and it was fun. I was providing her with tips and resources to help her with stage one of her project.

A few more weeks passed by and during an email exchange, she accidentally let slip that she had almost completed stage two of the project.

So she got on with her project, and you are upset about that?!

Harvestfestivalknickers · 16/03/2024 20:39

I'd just text back 'would love to see it now you've nearly finished'

SmarmIsTheCharm · 16/03/2024 20:45

@Geebray No.

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Geebray · 16/03/2024 20:47

SmarmIsTheCharm · 16/03/2024 20:45

@Geebray No.

No what?

Barrenfieldoffucks · 16/03/2024 20:50

Why would you start working on the later stages before she specifically told you she was there, or asked you to? Sounds more like she asked for help, but as time went on she found she didn't so much.

Either that or the lying is because she found you overwhelming and thought you were taking over.

SmarmIsTheCharm · 16/03/2024 20:59

@Geebray you asked if I was upset because she continued with her project . The answer to your question is no. If you read my posts, I’m annoyed at my wasted time and resources.

@Barrenfieldoffucks Stage two has to be started before stage one is completely finished; it’s the way the project works. It was all left to her, I only checked in with her to check how things were progressing so I could make sure I was on track for my part she asked me for help with. It’s something that interests us both, so she seemed happy to collaborate ideas. I wouldn’t say I was overbearing.

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SmarmIsTheCharm · 16/03/2024 21:03

She definitely still wanted my ‘help’ as time went on because she was still asking me for my knowledge and experience after she had already completed stage two herself.

Had she at any point said she wanted to go solo, I would have respected that and left well alone, but she continued to ask me for ideas throughout. That was until I stopped working on it myself after finding out she had misled me and wasted my time.

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BioHive · 16/03/2024 21:07

@SmarmIsTheCharm use it as leverage, she gives you the full updates on the project then you offer the discount codes