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AIBU?

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Wemustonlytalkabout · 11/03/2024 16:16

Gaza police 🎵

Seriously, on every thread where people are discussing something ‘trivial’ people come on with their whatabouterry. ‘What about Gaza?’ ‘Meanwhile in Gaza…’ etc etc

It’s as if these posters believe that the appalling situation over there renders us unable to hold another thought in our heads. Or worse, suggesting we shouldn’t be daring to discuss anything else.

By all means we should all be doing as much as we can to raise awareness and end the horrific situation but it absolutely does not mean we can’t discuss anything else. However trivial.

AIBU?

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LovelyTheresa · 11/03/2024 19:45

2mummies1baby · 11/03/2024 19:39

You are correct, I did mean 'anti-Israel', not 'anti-Israeli'- the average citizen of Israel has as much control over the Israeli government as I do over ours.

However, I will have to strongly disagree that being anti-Israel is tantamount to being anti-semitic.

"I am never going to agree with people who don't believe in Zion"- not the words of someone only politically engaged at a local level!

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It is true that I don't engage politically at a global level. Opinion does not equal political engagement, except when it comes to voting patterns (I vote Labour not SNP) but I'm not marching or campaigning on global issues the way I do on local ones.

therealcookiemonster · 11/03/2024 19:45

Daffodilsdaftie · 11/03/2024 19:40

I do feel derogatory towards Palestinian supporters due to the way they are intimidated Jews in their own country. If they stopped the marches they’d get a lot more sympathy!

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like I said, we have to agree to disagree

SleeplessSince03 · 11/03/2024 19:51

I agree OP. I think it’s either virtue signalling or a way of closing down discussion on something they don’t want talked about. These people that do it need to fuck off. Talking about Gaza isn’t helping anyone anyway so even if they come on mumsnet to talk about it, as that's a ‘worthy’ discussion. what good do they think they’re doing exactly. Dickheads.

Estellaa · 11/03/2024 19:57

LovelyTheresa · 11/03/2024 17:50

YANBU. I refuse to even think about Gaza anyway. It has NOTHING to do with us. We need to focus on our own country and stop worrying about others' conflicts.

This.

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Wemustonlytalkabout · 11/03/2024 20:17

You are right, OP, in your observation that it is often difficult to be reminded of the truth

oh dear. Bingo

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qunari · 12/03/2024 10:08

therealcookiemonster · 11/03/2024 19:14

I think the ordinary people on the street and the many Jewish people on the marches would disagree with you. it is our democratic right to protest our governments actions as we are, every one of us, responsible for our actions and inactions if our government is involved in egregious actions even if it is far away in another country.

I am very sorry that many of our Jewish neighbours feel intimidated and I think a lot of that is to do with the coverage. they are peaceful protests calling for ceasefire. personally I feel the solution is for more Jewish people to join the marches and voice their concerns and bring more awareness re the hostages.

currently people in Israel are protesting against Netanyahus absurd approach which is further endangering the hostages.

protesting for the thousands dying in gaza doesn't cancel out the sadness for victims on 7 Oct or concern for hostages. but the sheer number that are dying every day now demand action as multiple 7th of octobers are happening over and over again - just to a different set of people.

either way, I imagine you and I will have to respectfully agree to disagree on this topic.

I personally don't go around derailing threads but starting a whole thread on other people making tangential comments feels a bit pointless. also to me multiple threads on one woman's post op recovery is extremely pointless and in some ways, very toxic. I havent been on any of them so maybe that's why I haven't noticed.

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A man was recently attacked and arrested for holding a sign at a march saying Hamas are terrorists. There are posters on here who think it was his fault for holding the sign.

If Jewish people showed up to the marches to talk about thr hostages how do you think that would go over?

therealcookiemonster · 12/03/2024 10:40

qunari · 12/03/2024 10:08

A man was recently attacked and arrested for holding a sign at a march saying Hamas are terrorists. There are posters on here who think it was his fault for holding the sign.

If Jewish people showed up to the marches to talk about thr hostages how do you think that would go over?

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that is not why he was arrested. he was arrested for assault as he started a fight.

qunari · 12/03/2024 10:47

therealcookiemonster · 12/03/2024 10:40

that is not why he was arrested. he was arrested for assault as he started a fight.

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Link?

qunari · 12/03/2024 11:02

therealcookiemonster · 12/03/2024 10:54

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/metropolitan-police-hamas-is-terrorist-placard-b1144341.html

the other people who got into the fight with him were also arrested.

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Where does it say he started the fight?

WhingeInTheWillows · 12/03/2024 11:05

I’ve noticed it a lot too. Surely these people shouldn’t be mucking about on social media cos ‘What about Gaza?’

IamaRevenant · 12/03/2024 11:44

Yeah. There's lots of horrific stuff going on in the world that I care deeply about. There is also a lot of pretty awful/stressful/depressing stuff going on in my personal life and that of my loved ones right now too.

However if I want a moment of levity by joining in a parking thread or having a bit of a whinge about something minor and inconsequential in my own life then I fucking well will. If my every waking hour was focused fully on the really bad shit I doubt I'd make it out of bed in the morning.

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