Why do so many Men compared to women still live their parents?

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Is it because:

'Women often form relationships with older men. Between 24 and 30 a chunk of women will have children/form households with men aged 29/30 plus.

Social conditioning leading to men being less independent.

Men being conditioned to think they will be expected to provide financially for a family in their 30s and thus choosing to live with parents to save a nest egg towards this.'

From my personal experience in real life this seems like the reason most guys still live with their parent.

Low wage younger women seem to still be able to maintain and gain solid friendship group and get dates frequently.

Low wage younger men I know that do not live with their parents are most likely to be loners and end up having a lot of issues such as alcohol and drug addiction.

It is unfortunate that a lot of young men in lower end of the social/economics class do not have the options of living with parents to build themselves up.

Most blokes of that age group don't live with their parents, op.

Is the disparity in failing to leave home or is it because of returning back home as adults? Could it be because when there is a break down of a relationship with children - men are more likely to decamp from the family home? 🤷

It's easier for women to access housing,, especially if they have children.

Even for shared accommodation, people very often don't want to share with a male. I only share with females.

Sorry I created this post in a rush. I was specifically referring to people aged 18-28ish. Far more men than women live at home with their parents.

Women are more likely to be caring for children so have their own place. I had my own place from age 18 with DS, my ex lived with his parents because he did not have the same caring responsibilities as me (was uninterested in parenting).

There are quite a few that do 😬. When I was online dating I met several met in their 30’s living at home with parents, some had been living with a partner previously and some had never moved out of home. Some men just can’t afford to live alone, they are paying for children from previous relationships and are not earning good money.

Many divorced/ seperated men return to live with parents because they aren't the resident parent left with the kids so can't claim any top up benefits, need to pay child maintenance and therefore don't have enough money left to rent.

My brother is 47 and never left home. My mum clung to him and he went along with it.

Because young men can’t get pregnant as a method of accessing social housing?

Because they don't want to change GP surgeries. The amount of men who still "live" with their parents is amazing. Especially as their parents still live in the practice boundary.

In my experience, hopefully well out of date, it was because my brother was allowed to live an independent life and do fuck all to contribute to the household.

I didn't consider moving home after university because I'd have had to put in a decent shift maintaining the household (fair) and my mum would have wanted to know where I was and when I was going to be home at all times.

How many 18- 28 yrar olds van actually afford to leave home? Regardless of sex? A stater home near me (SE, near Londin but a cheaper area in comparison too) is £275k and rental £1k pm- not really doable is it.

Here are some stats Percentage of young adults living with their parents UK 2022, by age and gender

It be interesting to know the real reasons for the difference between females and males.

You're 20 years out of date love. What don't you try avocados or chai lattes instead?

Yup. Because that happens.

There are more men that stay living with their parents than women but it's not a crazy difference.

Women generally become mothers about 3 years younger than the age that men become fathers so that would suggest women are quicker to settle down than men.

Purely anecdotally - not every man, and im sure there are women in the same boat:

At least where I live, there's a big difference in attitude:
The men seem to generally be in a 'yeah, i suppose eventually when I've saved enough, but its not the main priority in my life, its an optional thing' camp
But women seem to be very much in the 'moving out is vital, it's not an optional thing, being independent is the priority above all else'
There are of course outliers - but generally girls seem to have the attitude of 'well of course I want to move out' and boys 'yeah maybe eventually'

Could speculate endlessly on why that is, but honestly - A lot of peoples expectations for boys is on the FLOOR (due to the fact so many men out there behave appallingly and treat women like domestic slaves) and it does them a massive disservice. Obviously a very big complicated topic.

I think you've hit the reasons on the head, OP. Women are often able to find men irrespective of their earnings but low earning men face much more stigma and are more likely to be viewed as a cocklodger if not making the same financial contribution.

Possibly more women are going to university, Where they find long term relationships.
on leaving university they either move in with their friends or partners.
If the relationship breaks down its more likely that the male will leave.

Interestingly, this forum always goes on about 'cocklodger'.

In real life it is usually the women that is often with a higher income partner staying at their place for free or paying well-below fair market value.

Some women take low paying jobs and date professional men, some women have mental health issues or other medical issues which prevents them from working full-time or higher paying jobs.

As a guy the initial courting phase is quite expensive in real life my friends/co-workers have taken their partners on expensive holidays, brought expensive designer purses and contributed way more to the purchase of home/rent.

I am not part of the this demographic myself but living alone as a 24 year old man on low income but be very very very difficult.

Your friendship group sound like they are out of the 50s. No woman I know would expect the kind of expensive gifts you cite. We pay our own way,thanks. And we pay our own bills or share thereof.

Cocklodgers exist. Meet my exBIL.

Living alone at 24 on a low income is hard for EVERYONE. At that age I was sharing a room in a hostel, both of us in professional jobs.

I agree. It's not that less women do well from being with a higher earner. It's that there's less stigma for them in that situation. A lower earning male or a SAHD both face a significantly higher chance of being divorced statistically.

I think one factor is that a lot of teen girls fight a lot with their parents, particularly the mother. It motivates them to leave. Boys are less likely to have so much drama, they tend to sit around in their rooms and be sullen instead.

Plus, IME, boys are often about two years behind girls in terms of maturing, at least socially speaking.

It's easier to let their mother do it, cos she knows how

This is my experience too. Hope it's now out of date but suspect it's not so