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Driving lessons

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harveyluna789 · 09/03/2024 11:13

How important is learning to drive? We are at a bit of a crisis point with my DD. She is struggling so much 40 lessons so far and hating every minute. My DH says she is dangerous and refuses to ever take her out in his car so we have bought her a car and even in her car he shouts and screams at her BUT here is the bit in all this which I think is important and I need proper opinions on what to do.

At 17 my parents forced me to learn to drive I had 104 lessons and it took me 2.5 years to pass my test and I would say for that 2 years I was a nervous wreck - my dad like my DH refused to have me in his car so my mum took me out - she says now it was the most nerve wracking thing she has ever done BUT eventually I passed my test. I had a car for a year but anytime I drove anywhere would sweat buckets and feel sick. This anxiety would start the night before I had to drive to work - I would then be anxious all day at work worrying about the drive home and then I wouldn't sleep because I would worry about driving the next day. It was an all consuming anxiety but 1. I knew what caused it and 2. I had to just suck it up because without driving I couldn't get anywhere.

About 8 months after passing my test I went on holiday for a fortnight and my anxiety completely lifted as I didn't have to worry about driving anywhere for 2 weeks - as soon as I came home and knew I needed to drive to work the next day my anxiety came back with a vengeance. I carried on for about another year and I made the decision to move into the town and sold my car and have never driven since and my anxiety has never returned. I got so much abuse from everyone - driving is a a life skill and by giving up I am not going to be able to go places or get a decent job. Agree - it has made my life much tougher , especially when the kids were small and I have only been able to have jobs that are walkable or on a bus route.

I have never really spoken about my driving anxiety to DD because I didn't want her to have a negative view on driving but she wants to quit it doesn't help that this week she drove through a red light and almost mounted the pavement. I asked her what it is she finds tough and she says "it is the having to be super aware of your surroundings, change gear, watch the road, turn the wheel all at the same time - exactly the same as my issues and that she feels sick thew whole time she is in the car which she feels stops her learning to the best of her ability. We talked about changing instructors as hers shouts which my DH says to her actual face that no wonder "because she is a driving disaster" but when I struggled and I wanted to change instructors the instructor to me and my dads face that it wouldn't matter because "I was one of the worst he had ever seen" so my dad made me carry on with him - this was after 50 lessons and 54 lessons later I passed first time!

Problem is she is going to uni in September to do teaching and really to be a teacher she has to be able to drive.

I hate seeing her like this and I just want her to quit and be happy but like when I learnt everyone is saying it is a life skill and she just needs to persevere and she won't always feel anxious and I am always getting told that if I had persevered the anxiety would have subsided the more I did it but I honestly don't think it would.

My son is dyspraxic and looking back now I think I am too and that is possibly why I struggled - my DD has no other dyspraxic symptoms but I now suspect dyspraxia is the cause.

There is the option to perhaps try in an automatic which I tried about 10 years ago but the anxiety came back and I gave up yet again.

I know driving is a very important life skill but in this instance should we keep on forcing it or let her quit. Obviously I completely understand where she is coming from but DH, and my parents who have never had any driving issues say she needs to persevere and not give up like me.

Thoughts and opinions please!!

OP posts:
Justcallmebebes · 09/03/2024 15:59

LauraNorda · 09/03/2024 11:16

Your husband needs to stop shouting and screaming at her, first and foremost.

At the end of the day, if she doesn't want to learn or isn't ready to learn, you can't force her.

I agree, your husband has to stop yellibg at her. That won't help at all

But I disagree that she should give up. She's had a lot of lessons so far so should plough on.

Driving is a life skill and I can't imagine life without a car or being unable to drive, but then I live rurally with v scant public transport

Wellhellooooodear · 09/03/2024 16:13

For me it's essential and I am always surprised when adults can't drive. That said, if she is so stressed that she a danger to herself and others then maybe it's not a great idea, provided any future jobs don't require driving and she lives somewhere with decent public transport.

snoopyfanaccountant · 09/03/2024 16:20

It sounds to me that her anxiety is being exacerbated by her instructor and her DF shouting at her and telling her that she is a bad driver. I would be looking for another instructor for her. I would also consider her learning automatic rather than manual. Hybrid and electric cars are the future and they are all automatic.

Oblomov24 · 09/03/2024 16:35

Shouting at any driver is not ok. But tbf I love driving and so teaching ds1 was easy, he was very calm and got it immediately, so only needed a few lessons. Ask around on your local town Facebook group if any driving instructors specifically deals either anxious drivers.

Sausageplusmash · 09/03/2024 18:48

Her dad either stops shouting at her or she stops going out with him to drive . She will learn nothing like that
She could take a break if she wants to and come back to it one day
I am 30 and just learning now..I don't need to but it will be massively convenient sometimes especially with two young kids .
Automatic and another instructor definitely worth a try if she really wants to learn as well

Momstermunch · 09/03/2024 19:01

Fucking hell. Poor, poor girl. Getting screamed and shouted at by her father and instructor. No wonder she's not learning. If you can't facilitate her learning in a calm environment where she's not being verbally abused, then leave it. She can try when she's older and doesn't have to put up with people screaming at her.

I imagine her instructor and father have done so much damage - at least in the short term - that she's not going to be able to learn now anyway.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 09/03/2024 19:07

I am not surprised she is struggling if everyone is shouting at her.

Let her have a break from it all, find a new instructor with an automatic car and let her start again. She won't know herself without faffing with gears, and if she has a patient instructor who explains things quietly and well, she'll be fine.

locean · 09/03/2024 19:23

The shouting at her will not help at all, it will only make things worse.

Have a look if there’s anything like this in your area, or if they do any online coaching www.roadstosuccess.co.uk

I have driving anxiety and I think people who find it easy just can’t imagine how scary it is. DH just cannot comprehend why I’m so terrified. I drive the bare minimum. Yes it can hold me back but so can feeling constant dread.

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MaloneMeadow · 09/03/2024 19:25

Get her a different instructor (there are ones who specialise in teaching people with disabilities such as dyspraxia) and switch her to automatic. Best thing my DD ever did!

AngeloMysterioso · 09/03/2024 19:30

I didn’t learn til I was 36 but it was a real life changer. I would say to switch to automatic, get a different instructor and find someone else to take her out for practice.

MaloneMeadow · 09/03/2024 19:31

Oh and please stop the shouting at her. If there’s one certain way to put her off it’s that

neverbeenskiing · 09/03/2024 19:37

I remember being so anxious that I would be physically sick before driving lessons. It took me years, and several different instructors, before it clicked and I realised I could do it.

The key thing for me was that I found an instructor who understood that I was anxious, and it was the anxiety that was preventing me from being able to process and retain the skills I needed to master driving. He was so calm, kind and patient but also made it clear he believed I could, and would, pass my test so that I started to believe I could do it too.

By the time I passed (on my third attempt) I was in my 20's. I couldn't believe how much easier being able to drive made my life. I loved the freedom and convenience of it but became really anxious about driving on the motorway. The first time I did it I was crying the whole time, but I pushed through and kept doing it until I got used to it. Now I'm a confident driver and have driven all over the country for work without feeling anxious.

In your shoes I would strongly encourage your DD not to give up, but no more lessons from your DH. He sounds like he is doing much more harm than good. Get her a proper instructor, one who understands anxiety.

WorkingLateAgain · 09/03/2024 19:48

I’d be looking more at getting her assessed for dyspraxia. Does she get very anxious/overwhelmed with other things? Any other difficulties? If so possible autism and other things like that which can go hand in hand with dyspraxia.

If she’s completely overwhelmed with it, don’t push her. Being able to drive is very useful but not essential and some people just can’t do it.

SecondHandFurniture · 09/03/2024 19:54

No DH practice, no shouting. EVER. If my dad had taken me out and shouted at me I'd have just got out of the car and walked home.

It took me about 80 hours I think but I've been driving for 20 years and never took a parent out until after I passed my test.

fishfingersandtoes · 09/03/2024 20:22

If she wants to continue she needs teachers who don't shout.
If she doesn't want to continue that's fine, she can live somewhere with good public transport or cycle or get taxis or learn later. I don't drive. I'm a teacher I live in London and travel by walking, tube, bus, the occasional Uber and train.
Can she ride a bike? Maybe sell the car and get a decent bike with a trailer.

strawberryblue · 09/03/2024 20:32

Automatic car lessons

More sympathetic driver

And hypnotherapy for anxiety!

Xx

SouthEastCoast · 09/03/2024 20:36

Shouting and getting angry is no good.

I would say driving is super important for full independence unless you live in Brighton or London or similar places where literally no one drives and parking is hassle.
but she doesn’t have to learn just yet if she isn’t ready.

L1ttledrummergirl · 09/03/2024 20:38

Nobody should be shouting in the car. No wonder she's anxious.

Change instructors and keep your dh away from her. I taught all three of mine to drive, I've been taken up kerbs-dd 3 times- but never felt the need to shout, that's when you need to be calmer.

WaitingForMojo · 09/03/2024 20:38

Automatic all the way.

I passed my test at 40. I’m still shit, but can manage driving locally. Does your dh really think she’s going to get better because he says she’s crap?

Not being able to drive as an adult is awful, really awful. Especially if you have kids. I’d persevere, but automatic, and no lessons with parents. I passed after an intensive course of 54 hours.

GermaneGermer · 09/03/2024 20:59

SecondHandFurniture · 09/03/2024 19:54

No DH practice, no shouting. EVER. If my dad had taken me out and shouted at me I'd have just got out of the car and walked home.

It took me about 80 hours I think but I've been driving for 20 years and never took a parent out until after I passed my test.

As an aside no 'buts' needed. 80+ hours are perfectly normal.
https://www.insurelearnerdriver.co.uk/how-many-driving-lessons-does-it-take-to-pass-my-driving-test

That's split into 45 hours of lessons and 22 hours of practice. But the latter figure is always ignored.

A lot of shit instructors used to having teenagers with additional practice get really angry and impatient with independent learners. My patient instructor had lots of the latter so was really good at measuring pace.

MagnoliaBrown · 09/03/2024 21:43

This whole situation is nuts.

Why is her driving instructor, who you are paying to teach her, why is he shouting at her?

My dd is seventeen, I am terrible at taking her out in the car. I'm a primary school teacher but I can't teach her to drive! I hate it. So I go to work so I can pay someone to teach her! My dd is learning in an automatic.

I think you should get a new instructor, maybe a woman.

I agree with you that she should be encouraged to keep going.

wintermam21 · 09/03/2024 21:46

I failed my test 5 times and when I passed it really was the best feeling ever! There is so much freedom in being able to drive. It was only after passing that I learnt how to drive confidently and have never looked back since.

KattyBoomBoom95 · 09/03/2024 21:49

Tough one. I'm not generally in favour of doing anything that causes that much stress but it does get easier. Once the actual technique is second nature it's easier to focus on what's going on around you.

Bythefireside · 09/03/2024 21:49

LauraNorda · 09/03/2024 11:16

Your husband needs to stop shouting and screaming at her, first and foremost.

At the end of the day, if she doesn't want to learn or isn't ready to learn, you can't force her.

We stopped husband taking dd out to drive he’s a terrible passenger. She did much better with me, took over a year but she passed and is doing really well .

MigGirl · 09/03/2024 21:59

I would say switch her to an automatic, I resisted one for years. Then we got.an electric car 2 years ago (they are automatic) and absolutely love it, it makes driving far easier.

Also stop letting you DH take her out. The last thing she needs is him shouting at her.