to wonder if the "Women take you for all you can get" thing is taking a deeper hold than ever?

[PyongyangKipperbang]

Two threads on MN in the last 24 hours about men out and out lying about bonuses or income. I have noticed a marked increase in this in recent months.

OK so there have always been men who will do this. Sadly financial abuse, selfishness and "whats mine is mine, whats yours is ours" has always happened but I cant help thinking that in recent years it has got worse. More men refusing to give the mother of their kids any sort of financial protection with marriage, shared home ownership or finances, etc yet slagging off a woman if she then in turn does the same.

My main hobby is playing poker, which is male dominated and there is one guy who I had quite a big row with when he said that his partner (refused to get married so he wouldnt "get taken to the cleaners") wouldnt share her significant inheritance with him and bought her own property with it because he wouldnt put her on the deeds of the home they live in (and that she has contributed to). Wouldnt see the double standard at all. He said that women have always done this so he was protecting himself, I said that its only because he wont give her anything that she has had to use her money to secure her future.

Has the "Andrew Tate" effect gone far further than is immediately obvious?

@TotteringonGently 'What on earth did he think he was doing? And how was he going to present this to you?'

I honestly have no idea. Perhaps try to convince me that it was a great idea, easy to do, and wouldn't it be fun having some money to spend. The planning man looked dumbfounded when I made it clear that I was the home owner and I knew nothing about it.

I kicked bf out as soon as the man from the council had gone. I haven't dated since. For me it was the last straw.

I split with my EXDP nearly 3 years ago. As we were unmarried we split the equity 50/50, which gave us both an extremely healthy share (nearly £100k each).

I immediately bought a 3 bed in catchment of my DC school, which EXDP bought a 2 bed in the same dingy area we were living in as a family.

EXDP tells anyone who will listen that I stole all his money on leaving. I guess this is because it's a convenient explanation for why he lives where he does, as he knows I was reasonable during the split.

So my situation now:

• DC
• high earner
• own home
• own car
• significant pension pot

I would NEVER marry now without having some sort of legal arrangement in place. I want my DC to inherit everything from me, and it would be too much of a risk to get married without it.

My split was 50/50 despite me having put in the money for property deposits which was where the equity to be divided came from. My ex felt very hard done by for some unknown reason.
I think it comes from the days when everything was regarded as the mans property including the woman and children in the house. Women were told that this would change when we went out to work and contributed financially but men haven't caught up with this and still feel like 50% of THEIR assets are being taken off them...

Because we're on a thread about men yapping on about women taking them to the cleaners. Keep up.

If only I was as clever as you