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I don't want to be friends with my long-term SIL - AIBU?

50 replies

InTheEndIGaveUp · 28/02/2024 08:34

I met my DH in 6th Form, and we are now in our 50's, as is my SIL. We have been married since our mid 20's. You'll agree that is a long time to all know each other.

During this time, my SIL has been a thorn in my side, and caused a lot of problems between me and their family. I got on well with MIL and even FIL when on our own, but when SIL is there, it all changes.

In summary, SIL is/ was very insecure and she was very jealous of DH and I and the life we created, which to be fair is just like most couples; house, car, kids, holidays and days out. On the other hand, she has had a number of long term partners that didn't work out.

In the past my SIL has made it very difficult to have a relationship with MIL. In fact, my MIL has to covertly tip toe around her to spend time with my DC. A few examples taken from the massive list are; MIL stopped staying overnight with us on DC's birthdays as SIL got upset. At a wedding I was at the wash basin, and 2 of my DH's relatives were talking in connecting cubicles about me, saying SIL had said I had MH issues and was a psycho. I called her out on this, and my FIL stepped in to defend SIL. I have no respect for FIL either, he's a dickhead. I was once very ill, and was recuperating and looked like death. SIL came round and was so ecstatic at the sight of me, that my MIL had to take her aside to tell her to stop. Finally, my marriage has not always been perfect. We met as teens, and have been together 30+ years. During a couple of wobbles, my SIL and my PIL dropped me like a hot coal. In fact they went months without speaking to me, or my DC, and only did so when DH and I got back together. During that time my SIL did everything she could to keep us apart, and even encouraged him to end it. These things are all still very raw in my mind. There are 100's of others. I have no relationship with her. I wouldn't even go for a coffee with her.

The issue now is that my SIL is now happy, in a long term relationship. Her partner has DC, a very large family, and she seems happy. However, now that she has domestic bliss, she seems to think her and my family should happily hang out together on special occasions and in-between. She wanted my family and her and her DH and SC to go away for the weekend. I said I was busy.

I don't want to hang out with her. She is someone I cannot trust. She is someone who just thinking about her, raises my blood pressure and anger.

She started to message me about upcoming birthdays, going away together, Christmas, Easter etc. and I just passed it over to DH to respond to her. Also, my DC are teens and early 20's and have no relationship with her, although she seems to think they see her as a beloved aunt, they really don't! They don't want to go over to hers, or they come here when it is a special occasion.

I just feel that I got to this age without a relationship with her. It would have been nice to be friends and be close. We could have had a great time. I am a loyal and good friend to others. I've thought about forgiving, but I still feel the seething, underlying resentment to me and then remember the things that have happened and I tell myself not to be a mug and trust her again.

At the moment I see her about twice a year. That is as much as I can stomach, and the least I can get away with, without causing a family argument. DH can go over as he likes, but I doubt he will. If MIL and FIL were no longer on this earth, I would tell her what I think of her, and it wouldn't be very nice.

Who is BU here? Me or SIL?

OP posts:
harriethoyle · 28/02/2024 11:32

Agree with PP not to engage. Remember the mantra "Never apologise, never explain" - anything you say about her being a bitch in the past will be twisted on you, so just decline any direct invites and let DH know it will ALWAYS be a no from you for anything she suggests to him. He's free to go along but you won't be and on no account will anything be hosted at your home; why should you be put out by this terrible baggage?

InTheEndIGaveUp · 28/02/2024 11:38

We got asked last year what are we doing for Easter, then Christmas and I said we were busy those days, but agreed to others around it as a compromise and to keep the peace.

OP posts:
Caroparo52 · 28/02/2024 11:43

Karma is a bitch

She was massively unpleasant to you when it suited her and now needs to present herself as loving aunt/wonderful SIL because her new partner is a family man.
Well tough shit SIL. You get what you sow....
That's nothing from you.
You should have no guilt in ignoring her.
Let the unpleasant penny drop to her DP just what sort of person he's hooked up with.

Noseybookworm · 28/02/2024 12:40

You are doing the right thing to keep this toxic woman out of your life as far as is possible. Your DH is free to have whatever relationship he likes with her as long as he doesn't involve you. I'm also in my 50s and have reached the stage where I'm happy to say I don't like this person and will not spend time with them 😊 one of the great things about getting older!

Fionaville · 28/02/2024 16:21

YANBU. There's a fine line between forgiving someone and being a complete mug. She's disrespected you over the course of your married life. Put her straight or you could have years of this nonsense.

Scaffoldingisugly · 28/02/2024 16:26

Do not keep the peace op!! Wtf should you? In fact I would never even message her back. I had exactly the same relationship with sil and ils many years ago. Now adult ds sees them now and again. They rewrote his childhood. He thinks they are great. They never bothered with him when sil had her dc. I say nothing... But I still hate them. If sil was on fire I would throw on more wood...

PassingStranger · 28/02/2024 16:33

I have a horrible sister in law. Husband dosent like her either so after a while of struggling and trying to make it work we went no contact.
Just because people are related dosent mean your going to get on and some things aren't meant to be.

Haven't seen her for years.

TheSnowyOwl · 28/02/2024 16:40

Yanbu. Your life will be far happier without seeing her more often.

pizzaHeart · 28/02/2024 16:41

I agree that it’s about happy families. The idea of weekend away together will get me in loud uncontrollable laughing. I would say something along the lines that you have separate circles and never hang out together before plus DC are teens so your family's interests are very different.
I might come to one or two gatherings without DC otherwise she will sell this narrative how bad you are and so on. But it’s only if you are inclined to do so.
It’s all about how you present this to your PIL tbh if you want to keep peace with them

RatatouillePie · 28/02/2024 16:52

YANBU.
She sounds awful and needs to accept she can't just now decide to play happy families after years of causing trouble.

If she messages about any more get together I'd just reply with 'no thank you' and not divulge further.

Terfarina · 28/02/2024 17:00

If your kids wanted to spend time with her that'd be different but as they don't that says a lot about the person she is.

Just because you are married to her brother, she doesn't have a right to crash into your leisure time and as for going on holiday together...

I am interested in what your husband thinks and how he interacts with her, does he see what you see?

FallingStar21 · 28/02/2024 17:11

I'd simply send the crying with laughter emoji (or several!) and then Block with pleasure!

If PILs ask, just tell them straight it's SILs doing due to her constant nastiness over the years. If they push, just say "I don't want to talk about it further".

If it gets nasty, just NC them too, DH can have their company on his own.

Snippit · 28/02/2024 17:29

I’ve had exactly the same problem with SIL, such a bitch. A male friend pointed out to me that he believes she’s jealous. Her marriage at the time was a sham, they were living beyond their means and she thought she was better than me.

I gave her the benefit of the doubt once, big mistake, a leopard never changes it’s spots. It’s now 11 years since I’ve spoken to her, and refuse to interact at any events, weddings etc. She isn’t allowed to visit our new house, she’d only make bitchy evil comments, she is vile.

I have a degenerative neurological disease and she called me a hyperchondriac and that it’s all in my head, the type of people we’re dealing with are narcissistic. They’ll never change, they don’t know how to, they’re vile evil human beings. Thankfully my husband backs me up.

My only advice is to stand your ground and don’t give in to her attempts to play happy families,

Scaffoldingisugly · 28/02/2024 17:58

Reap what you sow right?
Tell sil it's harvest time.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 28/02/2024 18:14

Yes. What do you want to keep the peace for?
SIL has pushed you to a place where you don't want to spend time in her company anymore. Why should you be made to feel obliged to continue presenting yourself for more of this treatment?

If she takes offence... you will see less of her.

😂@Scaffoldingisugly "Tell SIL its Harvest Time" sounds like a trailer for a thriller.

Redcar78 · 28/02/2024 18:28

It's all for show for her new partner, if they split up it'll be back to business as usual, I'd steer clear!

Elsewhere123 · 28/02/2024 18:38

Just say no thanks to any invites. And nothing more. Silence is golden. No explanation, no justification. Just a polite no thanks

harriethoyle · 28/02/2024 19:22

Oh I'm stealing that @Scaffoldingisugly - too good!!

Alwaysgoingforit · 28/02/2024 19:43

I couldn't be arsed with any of this, dh would see is family if he felt so inclined, the sil and the rest could jog off. I would just cut them off completely because I'm the type that doesn't give a jog about people like that.
Let them moan, whinge and cry they'll get over it.

Gagaandgag · 28/02/2024 19:49

Sounds similar to my SIL. I see her around 3 times a year and in a neutral setting. That’s enough. Be firm but polite then back away. Keep very low contact. Try and just forget about her. I partly began to feel sorry for her and kind of forgive her for my own mental health. Not to say I trust her anymore but I’ve forgiven and just don't give two hoots about her. Good luck to her. That’s helped me enormously

boxoftoads · 03/03/2024 21:18

I could have written your post word for word, so many true things.

I keep my SIL as far away from me as possible. She burnt her bridges years ago and now wants to appear nice, say great things about my kids to people and have family things as there are so few family members left.

No thank you.

Block her number, private your socials and be clear with anyone who asks why. This is what I have done.

repopupieres · 03/03/2024 21:22

I made the mistake of being polite and letting my SIL back in again and again to be 'polite'. Don't do it.

FrenchFairytale · 03/03/2024 21:30

Yeah fuck that

Findinganewme · 03/03/2024 21:48

I get it. I feel it too. I’ve been married for 20 years and I have drawn the line. In the earlier days my husband would persuade me to be seen with him, to be with him and to show that we are a couple. He’d convince me and say that his parents are going to die eventually anyway, or why not be the better person.

I do not want my husband to regret not spending time with his family, so I encourage him to crack on, but respectfully, leave me out.

FrenchFairytale · 03/03/2024 21:56

My DH is an only child and I thank God I dont have to put up with crazy siblings.

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