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Not inviting my mum to sons 1st bday

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Cornishcaf · 26/02/2024 21:23

Sorry long post! 🙈
To put it into context I have never had a close relationship with my mum, we never argued particularly but we have never been close.
I didn't grow up with her being interested in me and my life and no closeness hugs/kisses etc
Since moving out at 16 we would see each other an average of 4 times per year, Christmas, birthdays and mother's day, these would normally just be a cup of tea for an hour.
She would say she wants to see us more, so I would try and ask her out for lunch etc which we would meet but these invites were never reciprocated, so I gave up asking.
She would rather we came to her house and sit in front of the TV!

Now the other issue is my mum is a huge chain smoker, she smokes indoors, her house is yellow, and smells, I would wear old clothes to her house and need to go home and immediately jump in the shower and change clothes as they smell so much, If she visits me we would need to subtly put throws on our sofa so we could wash them, if she doesn't sit on a throw we would need to wash the sofa covers, as all her clothes smell like old musty smoke.

Since having my son who is 11 months, she has seen him about 5 times, she never checks in or shown any support, just popped by on occasions, had a cup of tea a cuddle with baby and left, I did ask when she visited to wear fresh clothes that she had not smoked in, but because she smokes in her house even her fresh clothes smell.
I have to bathe and wash baby's hair after she holds him.

We are holding a gathering of friends and family for our son's 1st birthday at a local hotel, nothing fancy, we just wanted to be in one place for a few hours where people can pop in and say hello and celebrate little ones big day!

AIBU to not invite her, she smells so strongly, I frankly feel embarrassed, I have lots of new mum friends with little ones and last thing I want is the room to smell of musty cigarettes.

She's also really funny about my step mum, she even phoned me a few days before I was due to say she had to meet baby before my step mum did, even though I'm super close to my dad!
She felt she had the right to ask that because she's my mum, but as above we are not close! But apparently just being blood related trumps everything to her! You don't need to put any effort in!
My step mum sees my little one almost weekly, bits him lots of sweet presents, always checking how he is, and makes him laugh constantly.

If my mum comes to the party and sees there closeness, it will definitely annoy/upset her.

If I don't invite her it's very likely she won't find out, I have brothers who all understand if I said don't mention it, and other than that she won't know or see anyone who would be going.
But of course there's always a chance she could find out!

Thoughts!?

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 27/02/2024 14:16

She was a fairly rubbish, disinterested mother

She is a fairly rubbish, disinterested grandmother.

No need to invite her. You don't need the drama

Cornishcaf · 27/02/2024 15:51

whatsappdoc · 27/02/2024 11:47

Can someone clarify third-hand smoke?
First - in room with someone smoking
Second - picking up smoke smell from clothes, breath of a smoker etc
Third - ?

First hand is actually smoking a cigarette yourself!
2nd hand is breathing in someones smoke/in room with smoker
3rd hand is where is lingers on clothes, furnishings etc

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Cornishcaf · 27/02/2024 15:59

Rubbishconfession · 27/02/2024 10:25

The pp has made a good suggestion of new clothes delivered to your house for your mum to change into. Maybe mum could even shower at yours?

It's a lot of faff I know but it seems very cruel to exclude a mum who not been cruel or mean to you and who makes the effort to see her daughter and grandson every couple of months.

It's a great suggestion. I wasn't knocking it in anyway, just not sure if it's achievable or worth the hassle for us

I don't exclude her from seeing me or her grandchild at anytime she wants to, she can call and pop round whenever she likes, but she doesn't. Your right she's not been cruel or mean but I certainly don't think seeing your child and grandad 4-5 times a year for an hour a time is particularly making an effort!

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Cornishcaf · 27/02/2024 16:07

notgoodatdeciding · 27/02/2024 10:49

Just another thought, my mum never contacts me and unless I call we'd go weeks without talking. I said this to her once and she was horrified by how I felt thinking she was respecting my privacy as a busy mum by not hassling me and thought she'd let me ring her when I had a chance.
We live a few hours away and only see each other about 4 times a year so your situation isn't very different apart from the smoking which I would also hate, she probably isn't aware of if she isn't actually smoking around you and is accustomed to it.

I'm just putting a different perspective on it because I felt my mum wasn't interested and didn't make an effort but she thought she was doing right by me and that lack of communication came between us for a while.

As for the birthday party, it's up to you who you invite and I wouldn't want the focus on anything other than the birthday boy so if it would be uncomfortable or cause an atmosphere then it's not the place and I'd only invite people who will help him celebrate and enjoy his day and make it memorable for the right reasons. Only you know who that is.

It's a really good point, but after a lifetime of it, I don't feel that bothered about trying to reconnect, when I was younger I would phone her up, take her out for lunch, coffees etc try to establish some back and forth but I never got it.

I took her to London once for an exhibition I knew she would really like, I thought it would be great bonding, on dropping her home I said ring me anytime to catch up, I counted the months, it was 7! When she phoned to ask if I could pick up and drop Xmas presents to my brothers.

I don't really want this to be woe is me! But I guess show why I'm just apathetic about it all!

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Startyabastard · 27/02/2024 16:21

What dies she say when you confront her with her the low contact she gives and low interest with your son?
Sorry if you have covered that x

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream · 27/02/2024 16:22

I really can't see that clothes with a faint smell of smoke are harmful, certainly less harmful than walking down a road breathing in car fumes, and probably on a par with perfume on a jumper. Putting throws on your sofa is completely ridiculous. Do you not have cooking smells or dirt or ever burn anything?
Smoking hysteria is becoming laughable

Flensburg · 27/02/2024 16:34

Cornishcaf · 27/02/2024 16:07

It's a really good point, but after a lifetime of it, I don't feel that bothered about trying to reconnect, when I was younger I would phone her up, take her out for lunch, coffees etc try to establish some back and forth but I never got it.

I took her to London once for an exhibition I knew she would really like, I thought it would be great bonding, on dropping her home I said ring me anytime to catch up, I counted the months, it was 7! When she phoned to ask if I could pick up and drop Xmas presents to my brothers.

I don't really want this to be woe is me! But I guess show why I'm just apathetic about it all!

Did you ring her during those seven months?
She may equally think you dont bother with her or that she's giving you space to live your own life.
You don't need to be embarrassed that she smells of smoke. I'm sure your friends will have encountered smokers before.

Nanny0gg · 27/02/2024 16:52

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream · 27/02/2024 16:22

I really can't see that clothes with a faint smell of smoke are harmful, certainly less harmful than walking down a road breathing in car fumes, and probably on a par with perfume on a jumper. Putting throws on your sofa is completely ridiculous. Do you not have cooking smells or dirt or ever burn anything?
Smoking hysteria is becoming laughable

You clearly don't know/haven't experienced the difference between 'faint' and 'oozes out of every pore' Envy

I imagine the OP is talking about the second one

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream · 27/02/2024 17:06

@Nanny0gg
Grin a heavy smoker does smell of smoke, yes. But if she has not recently smoked and is wearing cleanish clothes it will not be 'oozing out of every pore'
How ridiculous. And of course I have experienced heavy smokers. I was one a long time ago and am now very sensitive to the smell as an ex-smoker. Personally I find BO far worse

Cornishcaf · 27/02/2024 21:14

Startyabastard · 27/02/2024 16:21

What dies she say when you confront her with her the low contact she gives and low interest with your son?
Sorry if you have covered that x

No not covered it really, I haven't confronted her, as I don't feel the need to or want to. It's her choice and I'm pretty used to not having her as a strong representation in my life.

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Cornishcaf · 27/02/2024 21:22

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream · 27/02/2024 17:06

@Nanny0gg
Grin a heavy smoker does smell of smoke, yes. But if she has not recently smoked and is wearing cleanish clothes it will not be 'oozing out of every pore'
How ridiculous. And of course I have experienced heavy smokers. I was one a long time ago and am now very sensitive to the smell as an ex-smoker. Personally I find BO far worse

When someone spends almost 24/7 mainly in there home, chain smoking straights, I couldn't tell you how many but I remember being at her house for half hour once and counting three cigarettes smoked during that time. And she rarely cracks a window.
Trust me it oozes out! Everything smells!
She smokes in her bedroom so all her clothes, even clean soak up that smell.
You said in previous msg putting a throw on sofa is ridiculous, but I cannot explain how when she leaves my house the smell lingers and our furniture where she has sat smells strongly of old cigarette smoke.
As non smokers we probably are super sensitive to it.

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Cornishcaf · 27/02/2024 21:26

Flensburg · 27/02/2024 16:34

Did you ring her during those seven months?
She may equally think you dont bother with her or that she's giving you space to live your own life.
You don't need to be embarrassed that she smells of smoke. I'm sure your friends will have encountered smokers before.

No I didn't ring her during those months, I felt I left the ball in her court and tbh I was curious to see how long it would be for her to make the contact.
When you spend a long time being the main one trying you end up feeling what's the point.

I would be really interested if people would be saying the same stuff if it was a one sided friendship ie one friend always making the effort to contact, or because it's a blood relative I am somehow bound to making an effort!?

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Blueberry911 · 28/02/2024 16:12

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream · 27/02/2024 17:06

@Nanny0gg
Grin a heavy smoker does smell of smoke, yes. But if she has not recently smoked and is wearing cleanish clothes it will not be 'oozing out of every pore'
How ridiculous. And of course I have experienced heavy smokers. I was one a long time ago and am now very sensitive to the smell as an ex-smoker. Personally I find BO far worse

It's not about finding something more offensive, it's the fact that the smell of smoke is absolutely vile and third hand smoke is grim. The smoke soaks into EVERYTHING when someone smokes like OPs mother does.

Makes sense you're an ex smoker so don't think its that big a deal.

savethatkitty · 07/03/2024 22:33

You do not need to tiptoe around this. Your family; your rules! Even if your mum found out about the gathering, you can politely explain how offensive the lingering smell is. I sympathize. My MIL smokes & when she visits, even though she smokes outside, it lingers & reeks so I am always not so discreetly opening windows, spraying febreeze etc. Yuk!

ThisNiftyMintCat · 30/03/2024 06:55

Amberjane41 · 27/02/2024 10:35

I would ask her if she’d like to do something for the afternoon to celebrate your sons birthday and make it outside somewhere like a farm park or something so you don’t have to smell the smoke. You can get some coffee and nice cake. So she has had a nice special one on one celebration. Then if she asks about any other plans I would tell her you are having a party but it’s baby friends. If she does find out your dad was there you can say it was in helper capacity and you had your lovely afternoon out so she won’t be upset. I think you are feeling guilty but you don’t need to

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