To feel sad and hurt about how I was talked about when having an awful time

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I was in a mental health unit had just been made homeless. It was an awful time

Does sticking up for yourself mean you aren’t unwell I don’t understand maybe it’s my asd.

It depends how you did it.

Calmly and assertively, ok.
Shouting and very agitatedly, probably not ok.

Sorry for your troubles and hope things look up soon.

Is this from your medical notes? If so, if reads like a description of your behaviour and reactions whilst under section. They haven’t said that you weren’t unwell, just that you responded in a way which may have not been rational or how you ordinarily would if you were well.

I’m sorry you’ve been going through a hard time. Please don’t overthink this report, they have had to write down exactly what’s happened. Yes you stuck up for yourself but it came across as confrontational which can often happen when depressed.

I know it’s hard but please try put this behind you.

i get more irritable when unwell

It is my medical notes as well. They also have notes on them which say say I hadn’t pass urine for 48 hours I remember telling them this they wouldn’t take me to a&e

They put you in segregation against your will and took your ipad away? I’d have been fucking confrontational - ill or well!

I’m sorry to read that this happened to you. How fucking dare they!

It’s just and I probably will sound horrible but this doctor was very supportive to another young woman who was constantly making jokes about things and making posts on social media yet she was horrible about me

Yes they did that it was awful

It won't do you any good to go over this, are you home now?
I read this as a description of what was observed and I got a picture of a very distressed woman, how would you have described yourself in the observers shoes?
I would focus on moving forward.

I have truma from being bullied so to be honest when someone starts to benefit e about me I do jump to protect the child I once was

Because I feel it’s my fault I’ve ended up unwell because I let people bully me

What do you think isn’t accurate about what they’ve said in the report?

i agree, dont dwell on it
focus on future wellbeing

For what it’s worth, I don’t read that negatively. I read it as a description of how an unwell woman reacted to a difficult period.

My DS has contact with mental health services and sometimes the (very blunt!) letters make me wince a bit, but I try very hard to remind myself that it’s a factual comment in a medical report, not a judgment on him or I.

I really hope things continue to improve for you 🌻

Sorry, OP.

It does read to me as a description of what happened.

I’m not sure how else they could have worded it to describe what happened?

Yanbu!

The system can (and does!) cause secondary trauma

Being powerless and losing agency is a trauma

Being angry and expressing anger is a response to trauma.

Look at the work of Dr Jessica Taylor who has focused her career on women's mental health and pathology of women who have experienced trauma (bullying/abuse etc)

She has a few books, Instagram, blogs, Facebook.

You will find lots of reassurance there I'm sure.

Wrap yourself up in a blanket, eat all the chocolate and remember you're having a normal response to an abnormal situation.

Best wishes for your recovery and emergence of the new you that IS awaiting.

I don't see any of that as negative, just descriptive

In the nicest possible way, this is why people shouldn't read their own mental health notes, unless they have a very specific reason. You were mentally unwell at the time, you were unlikely to be presenting your best self, and the medics need to record things as clinically and accurately as possible.

I struggle with the language. Being confrontational is a matter perspective.

It is perfectly healthy to confront someone who has authority over us!

The language used is intrinsically linked to inequity of power and would naturally be upsetting for anyone having thier rights taken away. Especially someone with a trauma history that includes oppression or bullying.

The expectation of compliance with authority in the face of someone having a trauma response is so outdated.

The World Health Organisation has recently decided this model of mental health treatment is ineffective, pathologising of trauma and needs to be phased out so the op is not being unreasonable.

Ive worked with people with extremely challenging presentations and can confidently say, I've hopefully never written notes like this.

I might say I was unable to engage them as they were distressed.

There is a profound difference between someone being abusive and confrontational and someone who is in the midst of a trauma response. There are skilled people out there and the person writing these notes isn't one.

How long was the segregation for? That seems very harsh for being "confrontational". I wouldn't expect anyone to be in segregation unless they were being violent to others.

I would also expect someone to be screaming when things were taken away - even if I thought this was in their best interests. I would think offering to spend time with them, or medication if prescribed would be more appropriate

I also think that there should be an expectation that those with ASD would not react in the same way as those without.

It appears factual, but the notes are brief.

Don't worry about it, People in distress display it in different ways. I would not judge someone else for how they respond to their distress. And neither should the staff caring for you.

I'm sorry OP. My DD has considerable mental health difficulties as well as autism. When she is particularly unwell she looks as if she is being defiant and does not appear to be depressed although she states often and loudly that she will kill herself. In reality she is very depressed but as the person above has said she is having a trauma response.
I think her firey nature is one of the things that ultimately will help her overcome a lot of what has happened to her (and hopefully you too). Good luck with your recovery.

What led to you being put in segregation? Very strange language used about MDT agreeing to long term segregation.

It sounds factual not bad mouthing you. If something had happened and you would have died, the lawyers and coroners will be the one going through all the notes.

i hope you are now in a better place. Focus on your future. Don't dwell on the past.