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To think that it's inappropriate for a manager to share on an open work forum/platform that I'm on an 'informal PIP?'

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Quirkyme · 26/02/2024 14:33

Hi, I’m experiencing workplace bullying and my manager has put me on an informal PIP unfairly. The PIP points have nothing to do with my performance, honestly. Like 5% relates to my actual work and it's all nitpicking.

I returned from work related stress in October and in November Occupational Health advised that she needs to put a work plan of support in place, and she didn’t. 3 months later when I mentioned her name in a grievance earlier this month, the next working day she put me on an Informal PIP and continues to bully me. I have met with OH again today and they have advised on the reports that there is a clear management issue and that they advise against the PIP, which she has put me on under the guise of the work plan from OH. OH have stated that these are 2 different things and that her behaviour is unfair contributing to my workplace stress but that they can’t do much else and I need to escalate to Hr.

Now she has just put on an open forum , an open case note portal that I am on an Informal PIP. All my colleagues can see this, as well as other external teams that have access to this portal. She has written this inappropriately on a case correspondence, recapping a PIP meeting that has nothing to do with this case in question. She has done this purposely to denigrate me in front of others (she has denigrated me publicly in other ways too).

Should I be saying something to her about this or? My friend says to just collate as evidence and don’t say anything. But this is embarrassing me (even though I'm on this in the first place unfairly) and I don’t think it’s appropriate to share this in front of others.

I’m quite shocked.

What are the rules regarding sharing such information inappropriately in front of the whole team?

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PieAndLattes · 26/02/2024 14:38

I’d go straight to HR with that, and I’d be taking a screenshot and making note of it in case you need it in a case of bullying/constructive dismissal. That is way way out of order.

Quirkyme · 26/02/2024 14:53

PieAndLattes · 26/02/2024 14:38

I’d go straight to HR with that, and I’d be taking a screenshot and making note of it in case you need it in a case of bullying/constructive dismissal. That is way way out of order.

Yeah I called them straight away and they were closed. I'm not sure how helpful they're going to be if I'm truly honest. Like I don't even know what to say. Each day her behaviour is abhorrent and you would think it can't get any worse but yet she continues to raise the levels.

I'm going to give them a call tomorrow , I've screengrabbed everything for evidence. Guess I have to raise a separate grievance about this and everything else that's been transpiring since this started.

Like she's literally trying to end me here.

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StarlightLime · 26/02/2024 14:57

Extremely, yes. HR shouldn't baulk at dealing with her, don't worry.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 26/02/2024 14:58

PieAndLattes · 26/02/2024 14:38

I’d go straight to HR with that, and I’d be taking a screenshot and making note of it in case you need it in a case of bullying/constructive dismissal. That is way way out of order.

Exactly what I was coming on to say, I’d be raising a direct grievance also

takealettermsjones · 26/02/2024 15:00

What's your manager's manager like? If there's a decent chance they'll treat you fairly, I'd email your manager and say "hi, you've written this note [screenshot note] on the page for X case. This is an error as it doesn't relate to this case and contains my private information. Please can you delete this." If you don't get a response or get a negative one, copy in her manager and reiterate. This is objectively incorrect and needs to be deleted (I'm assuming it the customer made a SAR they would see this incongruous note?), whatever the outcome of your bullying issue, so surely the manager will agree.

As for the rest of it, as PPs: as much evidence as you can, and a formal meeting with HR to discuss next steps.

Quirkyme · 26/02/2024 15:02

takealettermsjones · 26/02/2024 15:00

What's your manager's manager like? If there's a decent chance they'll treat you fairly, I'd email your manager and say "hi, you've written this note [screenshot note] on the page for X case. This is an error as it doesn't relate to this case and contains my private information. Please can you delete this." If you don't get a response or get a negative one, copy in her manager and reiterate. This is objectively incorrect and needs to be deleted (I'm assuming it the customer made a SAR they would see this incongruous note?), whatever the outcome of your bullying issue, so surely the manager will agree.

As for the rest of it, as PPs: as much evidence as you can, and a formal meeting with HR to discuss next steps.

I'm concerned that HR are going to point me to her in the first place... in which case... I'll have to get the grievance together. It'll be quite shocking without this, and then makes it even more so. I may not even be able to submit because every day there's more things to add.

To answer your Q, if I'm honest, her and her manager are cut from the same cloth and unfortunately I don't have any confidence about going to her at all

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supercatlady · 26/02/2024 15:28

It sounds like that’s a data breach. Could you report to the person who deals with them in your organisation?

WalkingThroughTreacle · 26/02/2024 17:00

Is an informal PIP even a thing? Anywhere I've worked, as the outcome can often be dismissal, there's been a rigorous formal process to mitigate the risk of unfair dismissal claims.

Quirkyme · 26/02/2024 18:06

supercatlady · 26/02/2024 15:28

It sounds like that’s a data breach. Could you report to the person who deals with them in your organisation?

Yeah for sure. You'd think in the field we're in she'd know better. She'd finish me if I did anything similar to the shit she's pulled today. I'm going to try HR tomorrow, if that yields nothing then I'll go to her manager about it, and have the grievance being drafted alongside

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