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PGA Pro golfer “corrected” by player of 20 years

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Herdinggoats · 23/02/2024 14:52

Following on from the unsolicited parking advice thread, and the National Trust volunteers not being able to pick up on social cues thread, has anyone seen the video of the lovely Georgia Ball a PGA Pro golfer receiving unwelcome advice at the driving range? It is so painfully cringe.

She’s minding her own business and the man in the next bay just butts in to teach her! She politely tries to shut him down a couple of times but he won’t leave her alone until she basically acknowledges his advice is right and she’ll accept it.

I think it’s a bit sad a woman can’t mind her own business and practice her sport in peace. Telling that this man just won’t listen. And a bit of an example as to why some women don’t like going to practice sports or go to the gym alone.

I hope he’s thorough ashamed of what an absolute muppet he is, and his family and friends give him a bit of a grilling for being such a grade A twat.

OP posts:
PawsisShady · 23/02/2024 14:54

Yes! She couldn't get a word in edgeways, talk about mansplaining

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Herdinggoats · 23/02/2024 14:54

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3lEFSeNqPO/ here’s the link to the awkward encounter

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3lEFSeNqPO/

OP posts:
chiwwy · 23/02/2024 14:57

I was willing her on to tell him to get lost, but how could she really, when women are socialised to be nice all the time. And from a business point of view, her followers may have judged her for not being polite.

The worst bit is when he takes credit for her great shot.

It's discussed a bit on this awesome thread.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5011460-annoyed-by-random-man-incidents?page=4&reply=133248877

Coldupnorth7 · 23/02/2024 14:58

He's not even suggesting, he's definitely telling her. Then takes credit for her launching her next ball. Terrible tone, complete knob.

SingingSands · 23/02/2024 15:07

He actually leads with "you shouldn't be doing that".

The fucking audacity.

Haydenn · 23/02/2024 15:14

It is so painful to watch. I think it is a brilliant illustration of how people just shoehorn themselves in where they are quite obviously unwelcome. I also hate the lack of self awareness that he doesn’t seem to see that a woman practicing alone might not see this approach as intimidating either.

HemlockSoup · 23/02/2024 15:16

I saw it and was cursing her for being so lovely and polite!

I can only hope the TikTok has found its way to him.

AceofPentacles · 23/02/2024 15:21

Yes I hope he has been found and feels the burn. What a cock.

Everanewbie · 23/02/2024 15:21

I expect that it was a pretty lame effort at trying to initiate conversation rather than a genuine attempt to help her game. He'd need to be an extremely talented player and qualified coach to warrant interfering, and even then, well, unsolicited its not really on.

If he wanted to chat her up, which is not the sin that we seem to make it these days, why couldn't he have complimented her obvious skills and asked her advice rather than mansplain like this?

PawsisShady · 23/02/2024 15:53

I get it all the time at work (job details changed)
When a man rings up, he presses 1 for technical support, I answer "hello tech support" and 70% of them say "oh. I wanted tech support"

My male colleagues never get this

Then I will be asked something ridiculously simple and if I can price it. I price it up, and get "oh good girl"

Me AngryAngryAngryAngry

chiwwy · 23/02/2024 15:56

I just hope the knobhead has seen the clip and is cringing.

chiwwy · 23/02/2024 15:57

Everanewbie · 23/02/2024 15:21

I expect that it was a pretty lame effort at trying to initiate conversation rather than a genuine attempt to help her game. He'd need to be an extremely talented player and qualified coach to warrant interfering, and even then, well, unsolicited its not really on.

If he wanted to chat her up, which is not the sin that we seem to make it these days, why couldn't he have complimented her obvious skills and asked her advice rather than mansplain like this?

Yes, of course it's bad if he was trying to chat her up because 1) she should be allowed to practise uninterrupted 2) because he's clearly much older than her

Avariceagain · 23/02/2024 16:03

If ever a moment called for a 'thanks for your opinion, random man' it was this.

Cheesyfootballs01 · 23/02/2024 16:04

chiwwy · 23/02/2024 15:56

I just hope the knobhead has seen the clip and is cringing.

The sad thing is he probably has seen the clip and even though he knows that she’s a PGA pro - still thinks he knows more than her!!

He has been playing for 20 years you know…. 🙄

Ilovecaviar · 23/02/2024 16:05

Yes! Saw it yesterday. It was awful.
But she had ample opportunity to explain who she was and why she didn’t need his advice. Women have to stand up for themselves in these scenarios. She thanked him in the end so no wonder he didn’t learn.

junenotoffred · 23/02/2024 16:07

I saw this yesterday and sadly wasn't even remotely surprised. As a mum to a golfing girl this doesn't surprise me because it happens every single time girls have a club in their hands, it doesn't matter if it's practising on the range, or full blown competition there's always someone who feels the need to "help". There are an awful lot of male Saturday golfers who think they are Tiger Woods.

I used to think it was just helping a junior player but it rarely happens to the boys whereas the girls (of whom there are too few anyway) have to hear it every time.

I think she handled it amazingly- but she hasn't reached the level she has by letting the noise in - golf just doesn't work if you let that sort of shite get to you & having shown my 9 year old DD the post, I was very impressed to see that she saw it as a positive. That Georgia took her time and "whacked it" (as described by my DD) - showed her that it is possible to ignore these bloody men and just show them with her actions. My DD will remember that next time I hope. So while I was incensed on Georgias behalf, I think she handled it very very well (I'd have whacked him with my driver and been much less dignified unfortunately)

Everanewbie · 23/02/2024 16:07

I didn't see any part of the video that gave the age of the man away. But if he's in his 70s or something, yeah, clearly inappropriate. I don't think a quick interruption to say hi is out of order, she can easily say that she's busy. Its not the fact that he interrupted that bothers me, its the storming in 'I know best' attitude. This is especially up there as she is a respected golf coach who really does know her onions. People all over the country pay for her expertise, and some twerp thinks he'll get in there with some crap about a slow backswing.

NigelHarmansNewWife · 23/02/2024 16:09

Actually she didn't even get to finish what she was saying in response as he cut across her more than once. Ime someone like that is not interested in what you have to say so there's little point taking any other tack. I'd love it if he actually came forward, apologised and took it onboard that his mansplaining wasn't necessary.

Chances of that happening = nil.

FictionalCharacter · 23/02/2024 16:12

NigelHarmansNewWife · 23/02/2024 16:09

Actually she didn't even get to finish what she was saying in response as he cut across her more than once. Ime someone like that is not interested in what you have to say so there's little point taking any other tack. I'd love it if he actually came forward, apologised and took it onboard that his mansplaining wasn't necessary.

Chances of that happening = nil.

Yep, he probably thinks “well I was just helping and I was right anyway”. And there are a LOT of people, women as well as men, who think that unwanted, mansplaining “help” is well meant and we should be nice to these idiots. Including on MN.

CarousingPeasants · 23/02/2024 16:26

I don't think a quick interruption to say hi is out of order, she can easily say that she's busy. What the hell?! She's a professional sports woman practising her sport, and even if she were Joanna Bloggs at the driving range she should be left alone to get on with what she went there to do. The driving range is hardly a recognised pick-up joint!

Can you imagine a world in which women interrupted young men doing their sports/hobbies because they liked the look of them? But apparently it's fine when men do it. There's another really good thread on this topic, that didn't go the way the male poster hoped it would ....
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5013782-calling-all-men?page=1

Calling all men | Mumsnet

*Is it unreasonable to share the following, specifically addressed to men and crossposted on a number of cycling forums, on a site largely populated b...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5013782-calling-all-men?page=1

PorpoiseWithPurpose · 23/02/2024 16:48

But he’s been playing socially for 20 years!!!!!!

Everanewbie · 23/02/2024 17:11

@CarousingPeasants I think we disagree on this. I don't believe in a world that is quite so black and white. This was a public driving range, that are used to socialise, have a laugh, practise seriously and everything in-between. I used the frequent them regularly and often stopped to chat with strangers. Not to give too much away at risk of identifying myself, at one point I was at a similar ability, and I never resented a brief interruption, however I did resent the attitude of mainly males, who wanted to try to assert dominance and had a hard time accepting you could beat them like a drum at the game.

And the woman in question is a golf professional, a different thing entirely to a professional golfer. I don't think a speculative approach in these circumstances is quite as egregious as you do. If she was a competitor at a tour event then the circumstances are entirely different and would be entirely wrong and inappropriate.

To me its the know it all approach without hesitating to establish her expertise and the perseverance once she clearly displayed she wasn't interested.

CommentNow · 23/02/2024 17:19

Everanewbie · 23/02/2024 15:21

I expect that it was a pretty lame effort at trying to initiate conversation rather than a genuine attempt to help her game. He'd need to be an extremely talented player and qualified coach to warrant interfering, and even then, well, unsolicited its not really on.

If he wanted to chat her up, which is not the sin that we seem to make it these days, why couldn't he have complimented her obvious skills and asked her advice rather than mansplain like this?

He'd need to be an extremely talented player and qualified coach to warrant interfering, and even then, well, unsolicited its not really on.

^ youd think, but there have been many threads.over the years where female experts have been mansplained to by men whose only skill or experience in the matter is having a penis.

His thought process, if there was one, went like this... Golf is for men. I have a penis. She is a lady and therefore needs blessing with my superior knowledge. Which of course I have because I am a man.

cakeorwine · 23/02/2024 18:25

I do wonder if he has seen this video?

Or if his mates have seen it?

flatmop · 23/02/2024 18:53

I wonder if he just thinks she's attractive and is trying it on.

I've been to a lot of driving ranges and I'm crap. I don't play golf, I just like to hit some balls with no aim. I've never had someone try to offer me advice, at least not after I was able to consistently hit the ball instead of mostly missing (which is when a few polite men did help).