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To think school doesn’t care reg my child education

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Boleboo · 22/02/2024 13:35

looking for opinions from parents and teachers. I feel state schools in the UK are underfunded, teachers overstrached, many don’t really like/enjoy what they do; have to deal with lots of other admin and care little about children progress and their education,

I think majority of schools are only interested in the kids that are in the top sets and can raise their results.

I only hear from school once a year when they send the school report. Half way 5 min meeting with the teachers

Are you happy with the education your children are receiving? Or do feel you have to be involved on it/suplement it.

OP posts:
Updownleftandright · 22/02/2024 21:58

Teachers do care, but the government doesnt. I think that is the issue. I also agree with pp that higher ability pupils get left. I have one smart son who is bored at school and another at the opposite end with severe ASD and LD, who is wrongly being educated in the same mainstream (he is in reception and cannot talk, write, read or even recognise numbers/letters). I am having to go to a tribunal to get him in a specialist because there are no places currently. School have been amazing so far, but I would say my son being there would impact the other kids and this should not be the case. It's no wonder that some kids are not getting the attention they need if situations like mine are becoming common.

With my eldest son I spend a bit of extra time at home doing some work to challenge him, even though he is still reluctant about it. We both work FT, so it isnt as much as i'd like, but I think its important to responsible for some of the education as there is only so much one teacher can do with 30 kids collectively.

Sdpbody · 22/02/2024 22:13

I think parents need to care more. My DD was struggling with phonics so I've worked for 30 mins a night on sounds and reading different books that I got from Facebook market place for £5. My DD2 is amazing at maths so I bought a year above maths work book for £4 on Amazon to push her and support her.

Parents are not doing enough, and expect the world. Before anyone asks, I work full time and still manage it.

Hankunamatata · 22/02/2024 22:21

Stop sending emails.

Make appointments and go in and speak to people. Volunteer for the PTA and see what's going on.

Speak to the senco and see how they feel your childs doing. If the have an ehcp ask for a meeting about the needs being met.

Talking to teachers, most don't have time to answer emails and they are not a priority. You wont get anywhere with passive emails

Sherrystrull · 22/02/2024 22:23

TheWildWest · 22/02/2024 19:02

My dad always told me most of the teachers were not up to the job, but that nobody else wanted to do it. I'm just glad mine are now past that stage.

Who was your dad?

Such a horrible and bitter opinion.

mollyfolk · 22/02/2024 22:27

my experience of teachers has been that they are amazing and doing a great job. However, they have loads of kids in the class and many needs. I’m the annoying parent asking for meetings about my child. I see that teachers have to focus their time on the kids with the greatest need and the stand out students. I like to draw their attention to the small struggles my kids have but it’s not a criticism of them at all.

MalvernValentine · 22/02/2024 22:34

Beryls · 22/02/2024 13:40

I think the teachers care very much, believe me there would be no point on doing that job if you didn't care. I was a teacher who left a couple of years ago, the children were the only thing that kept me in in last 5 years at the job.

I found it became the opposite, the low ability/SEN became the only important ones in terms of making progress. The poor top group, such as it was were left to get on with it. That's primary though, don't know about secondary.

I'm living this. The very able at my child's school are left to it and pretty much all the time is dedicated to those who are struggling, those whose parents don't support at home and those that are vulnerable. I do think they care a lot, but I'd actually love to be at a school that could give the "top set" kids the same amount of attention as all the other children. We end up doing loads at home and my child could be doing a lot more in school.

JonesTheSteam · 22/02/2024 22:41

TheWildWest · 22/02/2024 19:02

My dad always told me most of the teachers were not up to the job, but that nobody else wanted to do it. I'm just glad mine are now past that stage.

What a load of utter crap.

What did your oh-so-wonderful dad do for a living that inspired people and changed their lives?

MigGirl · 22/02/2024 22:44

Boleboo · 22/02/2024 14:27

Thank you all. It is good to hear other people’s views. Probably the school do more than I am aware of; I just don’t hear much and feel the few emails I sent just get ignored.

Op if you have concerns don't just send emails go and speak to them or ask for a time to talk to them. You will get much more feedback this way.

Teachers care a lot and spend a lot of time and effort trying to help students. Schools are underfunded and understaffed. Education needs more funding, bit so does every public sector.

MalvernValentine · 22/02/2024 22:53

@boleboo ignored emails are normal for people who spend 80-90% of theory time delivering education. They just don't have the time. Even the admin are generally under pretty heavy workloads. As others say, go in and speak to them. I guarantee, they do care.

fuckityfuckityfuckfuck · 22/02/2024 23:05

Are you happy with the education your children are receiving? Or do feel you have to be involved on it/suplement it.

This is a major cause of the current issues schools are facing atm. Even if your child was in the best school in the world, a decent parent would be involved and supplement their education!

The shift in attitude to parents thinking school should do everything and parents have zero role to play (other then to complain or send vexatious emails) in their child's education, has had a major effect on the decline in the state education system.

stickygotstuck · 23/02/2024 14:11

Hankunamatata · 22/02/2024 22:21

Stop sending emails.

Make appointments and go in and speak to people. Volunteer for the PTA and see what's going on.

Speak to the senco and see how they feel your childs doing. If the have an ehcp ask for a meeting about the needs being met.

Talking to teachers, most don't have time to answer emails and they are not a priority. You wont get anywhere with passive emails

Hankuna , is this pimary or secondary?

Because regarding your specific points, here is the experience in DD's Secondary

Meetings in person - Nope! They are not 'granted' unless a huge deal has occurred. Even parent's evenigns are 4 mins and still bloody online, and not all teachers have enough slots for all children.

Speaking to SENCO - Nope! The SENCO never emails you back, and gets arsey when you email again saying, you've been patiently waiting for 3 months for a reply. True, this one person (+ 1 assistant) is the one responsible person for all SEN in a school of 1,700 kids. But still, it's hard not get arsey back! Which is when they do reply 🙄- then talk the talk and nothing is done.

Emails to teachers - Yep, all good. The teachers are generally great at emailing back about speciffic issues. I've try to send few emails in any case, but they are the only ones who respond.

So our experience of secondary is:

  • teachers = generally pretty good
  • the system and the management = generally shit
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