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Job Share response to hol request

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Stargazer75 · 22/02/2024 12:01

I'm fairly new to my jobshare with another lady (I've been there 1 year). She's older, single and no DC.
She loves her cruises and goes on around 3 a year, I cover the days she is absent.

As yet, she hasn't booked any days off this year, but as I have a husband, grandchild, elderly Mum etc, occasionally I book things in advance as have a busy life outside of work.

The other day I asked my jobshare if she could please cover 2 days for me in September as I would like to book annual leave.

She went all red in the face and said 'I just don't know if I'll be available, I don't know when I'm going on my cruises yet'. I could tell she was very annoyed at me asking! She asked if I needed to actually book something such as travel or accommodation etc? I don't personally think its any of her business what I plan to do on annual leave and I think 7 months notice is pretty decent. In the end, in a huff, she just said 'well, you may as well go ahead and book then and I'll let you know closer to'.

My DH needs to book his annual leave to coincide - and we were hoping to visit friends in London who would also book annual leave, but obviously if she changes her mind closer to it will mess everything up 😬

I guess she's pretty much saying 'I'll cover if I don't book a cruise' in effect saying her holiday plans trump mine (unless I'm getting it wrong)

I put my holiday form in to HR, but how would you address this going forward?

I'm not just going to sit back each year, wait for her to book the days she wants, then have the crumbs that are left.

Anyone else jobshare and how do you navigate?

OP posts:
bulletproof1979 · 26/02/2024 18:59

fashionqueen1183 · 26/02/2024 18:57

Ask the OP! She seems convinced this is the case and that it’s normal. Otherwise she would have just booked it off already.

"Asked to" and "made to" are not the same things, and trying to be accommodating to the wishes of your employer fairly normal.

fashionqueen1183 · 26/02/2024 19:12

bulletproof1979 · 26/02/2024 18:59

"Asked to" and "made to" are not the same things, and trying to be accommodating to the wishes of your employer fairly normal.

This isn’t that. If it was it wouldn’t be asked as a question on here would it.

TheNavyDeer · 26/02/2024 22:10

AnotherForumUser · 24/02/2024 12:39

I fully agree the OP should book the holiday dates she needs. However I think you are being spiteful and misogynistic in your contemptible and personal attack on @Picklestop. Sneeringly asking if she is a 'spinster' is way out of order, shows a hugely old fashioned mindset and shows your own bias against women who have not married.

You’re right. There’s so much prejudice towards the childless and single people in society - it’s actually quite sinister and it constantly goes unchecked

TheNavyDeer · 26/02/2024 22:14

Carpediemmakeitcount · 24/02/2024 13:46

Her job share is a CF who doesn't like sharing. What are you reading.

What does a CF mean? Sorry, new to this

Runnerinthenight · 26/02/2024 22:50

TheNavyDeer · Today 22:10

You’re right. There’s so much prejudice towards the childless and single people in society - it’s actually quite sinister and it constantly goes unchecked

There's prejudice against a lot of people in society and the one I personally am most often subjected to is ageism these days. That goes unchecked too.

However, the fact remains that families with children ARE the most restricted when it comes to annual leave, as soon as their children start school. That doesn't mean they get preferential treatment, but it's ok for them to express that they are more restricted because it's just a fact.

I'm really pissed off with the allocation of annual leave where I work. The whole team has to submit requests for out of term-time leave, and the team manager approves or doesn't approve it at short notice, making it virtually impossible to book anything months away when it's cheaper. We're also restricted to one week at a time in term-time, unless it's tagged onto a school holiday closure. I haven't fallen foul of it yet, but I am sure I will in time!

EBearhug · 26/02/2024 23:02

TheNavyDeer · 26/02/2024 22:14

What does a CF mean? Sorry, new to this

Cheeky fucker.
Though sometimes child free, which can get confusing...

TheNavyDeer · 27/02/2024 06:44

EBearhug · 26/02/2024 23:02

Cheeky fucker.
Though sometimes child free, which can get confusing...

Interesting. In my experience, women without children don’t seem to need to use their parental status as an identity - I’ve never heard anyone say ‘as a childfree’ or ‘I’m a childfree’.

TheNavyDeer · 27/02/2024 10:05

Runnerinthenight · 26/02/2024 22:50

TheNavyDeer · Today 22:10

You’re right. There’s so much prejudice towards the childless and single people in society - it’s actually quite sinister and it constantly goes unchecked

There's prejudice against a lot of people in society and the one I personally am most often subjected to is ageism these days. That goes unchecked too.

However, the fact remains that families with children ARE the most restricted when it comes to annual leave, as soon as their children start school. That doesn't mean they get preferential treatment, but it's ok for them to express that they are more restricted because it's just a fact.

I'm really pissed off with the allocation of annual leave where I work. The whole team has to submit requests for out of term-time leave, and the team manager approves or doesn't approve it at short notice, making it virtually impossible to book anything months away when it's cheaper. We're also restricted to one week at a time in term-time, unless it's tagged onto a school holiday closure. I haven't fallen foul of it yet, but I am sure I will in time!

Being subjected to ageism must be awful. I’m sorry you have to deal with that. In terms of school holidays, teachers are also restricted, it’s not just parents, and many teachers don’t have children. It’s interesting that the needs of teachers aren’t talked about where holidays are concerned.

MarkWithaC · 27/02/2024 10:48

TheNavyDeer · 27/02/2024 10:05

Being subjected to ageism must be awful. I’m sorry you have to deal with that. In terms of school holidays, teachers are also restricted, it’s not just parents, and many teachers don’t have children. It’s interesting that the needs of teachers aren’t talked about where holidays are concerned.

My dad is a retired teacher and my mum worked in retail, and after I'd left home holidays were a real bone of contention in their house. My mum wouldn't fight for time off in the school hols because she knew others would get first dibs 'because they've got kids in school', despite my dad saying til he was blue in the face, 'Well, you've got a HUSBAND in school!'

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