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Is your Council tax rising? Fed up

165 replies

coffeeteac · 21/02/2024 10:03

news.sky.com/story/council-tax-how-much-is-yours-going-up-by-13076146

Mine is going up 4.99 percent. I am fed up of absorbing the costs of everything rising and rising. My wage is not getting that much better.

Just feels like we are getting poorer every day. Just fed up.

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kirbykirby · 21/02/2024 19:15

One of the problems it that there are so many people who don't have to pay (council tax exemption) that the burden on those that do pay not only increases but they get less services for their contribution. It's ridiculous. There are already far more recipients of tax receipts largesse than contributors. It's completely unsustainable and unfair.

Jammymare · 21/02/2024 19:21

Sunnnybunny72 · 21/02/2024 16:14

Surely the ageing population should contribute more? My well off PIL (whom their IFA keeps advising to spend some of their significant investments) have just applied for non means tested attendance allowance for MIL with poor mobility and bingo, suddenly an extra £400 a month into their coffers that they don't spend.

All Adults pay for their own care costs until their savings fall below £23,250.
Private care homes can often cost in excess of £2,000 a week and the the LA has to pick up this cost once the persons savings have been depleted as often it’s not in their best interests to be moved at this point.
Specialist care for dementia sufferers can be in excess of £5,000 per week.

caringcarer · 21/02/2024 19:35

I'm in Staffordshire and it's 5 percent here but I'm grateful it's not 10 percent like it will be in Birmingham for the next 2 years.

3rdtimeLucky3 · 21/02/2024 19:38

Please do not vote to bring back Poll tax

There is no escape from death or taxes !

MxEWeatherwax · 21/02/2024 20:14

I really object to the PCC, what waste of money that office is. Would pay more if when on social care, adults and children. And street lights!

CassandraWebb · 21/02/2024 20:17

Central govt have absolutely drained local authorities dry. It's bleak. Unbearable service cuts are being contemplated most authorities.

Tittyfilarious81 · 21/02/2024 20:18

My council hasn't announced but there's rumors swirling that they are taking about 5.5% which is absolutely fuckin shit as the council service here is appalling

CassandraWebb · 21/02/2024 20:18

Tittyfilarious81 · 21/02/2024 20:18

My council hasn't announced but there's rumors swirling that they are taking about 5.5% which is absolutely fuckin shit as the council service here is appalling

It's probably appalling because they have no money left

Flaskfan · 21/02/2024 20:24

9% here and cuts to everything. NE Wales. I should move across the border.

Tittyfilarious81 · 21/02/2024 20:25

CassandraWebb · 21/02/2024 20:18

It's probably appalling because they have no money left

Our council is notoriously bad at money management, they come up with big projects and never complete them because they fuck up on the costing so nothing ever gets finished. Been the same for years

Madwife123 · 21/02/2024 20:30

Yep mine is 5% also.

We already pay far too much as they put our new build house in a band D bracket despite being a quarter of the current value of the nearby band D properties but as its new build there is no 1991 value to go by so they overestimate it.

We are having to look at selling the house. With all the cost of living increases, caring for a disabled child and my NHS wage not keeping up we are being priced out.

It is miserable!

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 21/02/2024 20:33

I'm in South Wales, can't find a finalised figure, but they were looking at 6.7%. I know councils are desperately trying to keep services running, and we must have had our money's worth with the amount of support we've had with DS, but we can't keep absorbing increases in everything with no increase in income.

Spectre8 · 21/02/2024 20:33

Jammymare · 21/02/2024 19:21

All Adults pay for their own care costs until their savings fall below £23,250.
Private care homes can often cost in excess of £2,000 a week and the the LA has to pick up this cost once the persons savings have been depleted as often it’s not in their best interests to be moved at this point.
Specialist care for dementia sufferers can be in excess of £5,000 per week.

And that's why we need to start having discussions around quality of life and peolld being kept alive

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 21/02/2024 20:40

CassandraWebb · 21/02/2024 20:17

Central govt have absolutely drained local authorities dry. It's bleak. Unbearable service cuts are being contemplated most authorities.

How much money in the bank accounts of local authorities has central government “drained”?

Or do you mean central government has refused to fund local authorities as much as the local authorities would like?

Bigcoatweather · 21/02/2024 20:55

Councils, like the NHS, are extremely inefficient with the funds they do get.

The most recent example I had was chatting to a taxi driver a few weeks ago who was explaining about how he and his wife (who was a DBS’d chaperone for children in his taxis) were stunned at how much the council would pay them to transport children with extra needs to schools.
He didn’t want the contract so had put in a quote for ‘stupid money’ and lo and behold, the council got back to him and accepted.

A mum friend at school has a DS with significant health needs. They live in a £3.5m house and her DH holds an extremely well-paid senior position in a bank. Her DS receives free schooling, transport and they had a pool installed in their basement at significant discount. I don’t begrudge her DS what he needs to improve his life, but come on - they completely played the system and councils allow it.

Notonthestairs · 21/02/2024 20:59

As I understand it Central government grants were cut by 40% between 2009/10 - 2019/20.

At the same time local governments statutory responsibilities increased for social care. So they've used money from unprotected things like libraries/road maintenance to pay for care (protected).

However, the government has steadily increased the amount by which local authorities can increase council tax without a referendum from 2% in 2011 to 5%.

It's government policy in action.

Cyclebabble · 21/02/2024 21:04

GPTec1 · 21/02/2024 18:13

Government could of course fund local Govt properly, as they used too, stop this ridiculous tax cuts rubbish, which benefits you more as you earn more, so things like CT rises hit the lower paid the worst.

Hunt gave away billions in tax cuts last year, but the biggest gainers are the well off.

The average UK worker is seeing their standard of living plummet, working hard to stay poor.

The UKs roads are falling to bits but in France (where you also get loads of rain and snow) roads are well maintained, how come????

All true of course, but if the extra money comes from central government taxes would still have to rise to pay for it. I am very conscious that as we approach an election anyone cutting taxes is either making public services worse or lying...or probably both.

Babyroobs · 21/02/2024 22:14

Our local city and county councils are both on the verge of bankruptcy. They can't seem to provide even basic services like helping anyone to make a benefit claim or apply for a Blue badge. Many pensioners can't do online claims which are the only options. The council just refer them straight to us ( a small charity ) to help people. It's like they've just absolved themselves of any responsibility forcing charities to pick up the pieces. Charities who rely on donations and fundraising to keep going and pay their staff. It's actually quite disgusting that they can't even give a basic level of help. Meanwhile our charity is completely overwhelmed with referrals with a couple of advisors to help over all 50's in the whole county and a large city. At one time these councils would give grants and funding to assist our charity to provide these services, now we are just expected to provide the service for free.

Maverickess · 21/02/2024 22:22

Yup, going up the 4.99%.

Think my council has escaped bankruptcy by the skin of its teeth, so I should probably be grateful it's not more.

And having worked in social care I agree with @Spectre8 about quality of life etc, not just for financial reasons but humanity as well. If I kept an animal alive in some of the conditions I've cared for people in it would be rightly called cruel and unnecessary suffering with no positive outcome to come from it.

That and making sure the money goes to the actual care and not care home owners and shareholders pockets making even more profit.

Starting to feel like those mugs like me simply exist to make everyone else richer tbh with everything going up and some of the worst companies for it recording increased profits, squeezed even tighter with taxes and told it's so we can have the services we want and need but then they just deteriorate further and no one is ever held accountable.

I'm fed up too OP.

L1ttledrummergirl · 21/02/2024 22:28

I hate the way they use percentage, usually a single figure to imply it's a small increase.
25 years ago my council tax was £60 a month. Now it's £180 (without this increase).

That's 3x what it was. I wouldn't mind if salaries were also 3x what they were 25 years ago, but for most people that's not the case. With food and energy prices also increasing in proportion to salaries, it's contributing to people feeling poorer.

snoopyfanaccountant · 21/02/2024 22:30

I'm in Scotland and our first minister Humza Useless announced at the SNP conference last year that council tax in Scotland is frozen. Councils are already strapped for cash after years of no council tax increases, despite public sector pay increases and increases in other costs (councils haven't benefited from caps on utility bill increases). Councils are on their knees but the public still expects the services they have received for years.

Danikm151 · 21/02/2024 22:32

I’m in Brum so dreading it! I’ve just received my rent increase letter too!

no info about pay rises at work though!

Caiti19 · 21/02/2024 22:35

Council tax is still so shocking to me, as I didn't grow up in the U.K. I'll never get used to it, and am just constantly amazed that people accept it and that's it's considered normal to receive a bill for thousands every year for things that should be paid for via general taxation of over 40%. Sure, most countries in Europe have something similar, but it's in the hundreds, not thousands!

gamerchick · 21/02/2024 22:39

Caiti19 · 21/02/2024 22:35

Council tax is still so shocking to me, as I didn't grow up in the U.K. I'll never get used to it, and am just constantly amazed that people accept it and that's it's considered normal to receive a bill for thousands every year for things that should be paid for via general taxation of over 40%. Sure, most countries in Europe have something similar, but it's in the hundreds, not thousands!

What do you suggest? It's a priority bill that can see you in jail. Should we riot?

WulfWuman · 21/02/2024 22:51

It's not a bill.