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Payrise and maintenance

341 replies

Lillo7 · 19/02/2024 07:05

Keen to hear people's opinions about this.

Two DC, father is married with more children. Mother is single.

Father is not on a great wage however his wife has received several payrises in the years they've been together and works in a professional career which means as a whole their household is quite well off and can afford quite a lot of luxuries.

Maintenance is paid by the father based on his low wage. Mother is struggling a little as also on a lower wage.

Mother argues that they should pay more as a household instead due to wife's higher pay, obviously not officially through CMS as they don't take new partners into account, but morally. Wife disagrees and says what she earns is nothing to do with the mother and is for her household/children/ stepchildren when there, not at their mums.

Father stuck in the middle a bit.

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YABU - wife should subsidise higher maintenance.

YANBU - Mother and father should care for their children on their own respective wages and what wife earns is nothing to do with the mother.

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LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 19/02/2024 19:46

They should only pay more if the dad is only on a low wage as he works part time to facilitate childcare of the younger children whilst his wife works. As long as he is working a decent amount of hours then it should be based on his wage only.

Drapion · 19/02/2024 19:46

No no and no. It's not the role of his wife to bank roll you.

Chocolatebuttonns · 19/02/2024 19:49

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Goldbar · 19/02/2024 19:50

Hoplolly · 19/02/2024 19:44

Kids should see their parents striving for them. Parents should have their kids' backs whatever happens.

Bang straight @Goldbar. If mum is struggling she should strive to provide more for her kids, I agree.

Do as men are often told...get a better job, upskill, get a second job. Provide for your children.

It's not exactly "striving" for your kids to expect your ex's partner to stump up for you.

Both parents should be striving for this.

And the dad should read the room. If his kids are struggling, driving round in a brand new car isn't a good look.

I mean, he could level with them. "Your mum doesn't earn enough and I don't pay enough to provide you with a good standard of living at hers, but I'm lucky because @Lillo7 earns a lot more so can fund a very good life for me here. Sorry about that." But that might be too much honesty for children.

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Goldbar · 19/02/2024 19:50

Both parents should be striving for this.

And the dad should read the room. If his kids are struggling, driving round in a brand new car isn't a good look.

I mean, he could level with them. "Your mum doesn't earn enough and I don't pay enough to provide you with a good standard of living at hers, but I'm lucky because @Lillo7 earns a lot more so can fund a very good life for me here. Sorry about that." But that might be too much honesty for children.

That's a ridiculous statement.

He may as well say "your mum is inept but @Lillo7 is really good at her job so she's able to earn more more because she's not as useless as your mum is".

That is equally as awful.

Britpop123 · 19/02/2024 19:58

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why are you not answering this Goldbar?

Goldbar · 19/02/2024 20:04

When I look back on my childhood, my parents weren't very well-off. They didn't work in very well-paid careers and money was often tight.

But one thing my siblings and I are in no doubt of is that they sacrificed hugely to give us every advantage in life that they could.

I wonder if this man's children will say the same for him when they are grown up?

Chocolatebuttonns · 19/02/2024 20:06

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Goldbar · 19/02/2024 20:06

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Do I think the mother is inadequate for not earning lots? Is that your question?

Chocolatebuttonns · 19/02/2024 20:07

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Hoplolly · 19/02/2024 20:13

I wonder if this man's children will say the same for him when they are grown up?

Will they be able to say that about their mum?

Goldbar · 19/02/2024 20:21

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My parents didn't earn a lot but they were in no way inadequate - mum or dad. Because we were the centre of their world.

I actually can't imagine my dad paying just above minimum CM and then buying new cars while my mum struggled to look after us.

It's not about money, it's about priorities.

Britpop123 · 19/02/2024 20:22

Goldbar · 19/02/2024 20:21

My parents didn't earn a lot but they were in no way inadequate - mum or dad. Because we were the centre of their world.

I actually can't imagine my dad paying just above minimum CM and then buying new cars while my mum struggled to look after us.

It's not about money, it's about priorities.

That’s not an answer

Goldbar · 19/02/2024 20:24

Britpop123 · 19/02/2024 20:22

That’s not an answer

It is if you use half a brain cell.

Chocolatebuttonns · 19/02/2024 20:24

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Britpop123 · 19/02/2024 20:34

Goldbar · 19/02/2024 20:24

It is if you use half a brain cell.

assume I cant
spell out the answer for me
make it simple

Bananasandtoast · 19/02/2024 20:35

This is like watching a backbencher waffle on Question Time 🍿

MississippiAF · 19/02/2024 20:43

Been to the gym and back… are we still waiting?

Chocolatebuttonns · 19/02/2024 20:43

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Britpop123 · 19/02/2024 20:44

MississippiAF · 19/02/2024 20:43

Been to the gym and back… are we still waiting?

No she’s answered but I was too stupid to understand it so I’ve asked her to simplify it for me

Toooldtoworry · 19/02/2024 20:45

Goldbar · 19/02/2024 20:21

My parents didn't earn a lot but they were in no way inadequate - mum or dad. Because we were the centre of their world.

I actually can't imagine my dad paying just above minimum CM and then buying new cars while my mum struggled to look after us.

It's not about money, it's about priorities.

The dad isn't buying new cars, his WIFE is WITH HER BONUS, which just happens to be none of the exes business.

I'm sorry, but I fail to see why the OP should fund additional child support for her step children.

What the OP does with her money is not the exes business. Even the CMS recognise this.

MississippiAF · 19/02/2024 20:46

Britpop123 · 19/02/2024 20:44

No she’s answered but I was too stupid to understand it so I’ve asked her to simplify it for me

I think the reply was… inadequate

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