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"What the seeker seeks the finder finds"

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OooPourUsACupLove · 18/02/2024 11:53

"What the seeker seeks the finder finds" is a saying I thought was well known.

I've never been quite sure what it means. I thought maybe something like "beware of confirmation bias".

On a Sunday morning whim I just googled it and was surprised to get hardly any results at all. All I got was two Reddit posts that happened to use the phrase. (Almost a Googlewhack!)

Given how many billions of words have been written to the web, that could just be one of those infinite monkey moments.

So did I just make this whole "it's a well known phrase" thing up?

YABU - I've never heard that phrase before
YANBU - It is a well known phrase (and for bonus points, this is what it means)

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unnumber · 18/02/2024 12:01

I've never heard it! And I'm very widely read / travelled.

EveryKneeShallBow · 18/02/2024 12:03

I’m in my 60s and love anything to do with language, idioms, dialects, local expressions etc and I have never heard of it.

SoEmbarrassed2024 · 18/02/2024 12:08

Sorry op, another one who has never heard it

Hagbard · 18/02/2024 12:10

From "Prometheus Rising" by Robert Anton Wilson?

Mothership4two · 18/02/2024 12:16

Never heard it before and it doesn't really mean anything

OooPourUsACupLove · 18/02/2024 12:19

Hagbard · 18/02/2024 12:10

From "Prometheus Rising" by Robert Anton Wilson?

Ooo maybe....I've never read it but it's not entirely outside my frame of reference (as in, I have curious friends who are interested in counter cultures and esoterica as opposed to actual conspiracy theorists!). I will investigate further.

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OooPourUsACupLove · 18/02/2024 12:20

@SoEmbarrassed2024 don't be sorry, this is really cool/interesting.

If I really have made the whole thing up, the phrase and the meaning, I kind of feel like it's a ready-made book title/art piece just waiting to be made!

(Hmmm - I'm wondering if it's a phrase from another language. My mum speaks a few languages and quite often referred to ideas and proverbs from other languages in English)

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Girlsjustwannahavefungi · 18/02/2024 12:27

Are you mixing it up with "seek and ye shall find"? That's from the Bible.

OooPourUsACupLove · 18/02/2024 12:30

Girlsjustwannahavefungi · 18/02/2024 12:27

Are you mixing it up with "seek and ye shall find"? That's from the Bible.

Not consciously - I know the Biblical phrase and wouldn't have confused the two.

But given my subconscious appears to have invented this, who knows what it started with!

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Hagbard · 18/02/2024 12:36

It's a common theme in Prometheus Rising. Supporting the idea that we see the world through our own internal biases (reality tunnels)

Hagbard · 18/02/2024 12:43

I've found the quote, not the same but similar:

Whatever the thinker thinks, the Prover will prove. R.A.W.

OooPourUsACupLove · 18/02/2024 12:58

Hagbard · 18/02/2024 12:43

I've found the quote, not the same but similar:

Whatever the thinker thinks, the Prover will prove. R.A.W.

Amazing - not quite the same phrase and the meaning does change a bit with thinker/prover rather than seeker/finder, but but the message (seeing the world through your own biases) is exactly right.

My DH has almost certainly read Promethesus Rising - maybe I picked it up from him.

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ShakeNvacStevens · 21/02/2024 15:08

I've not heard that particular phrase but it brought to mind this Abraham Lincoln quote: "If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will."

Not that I know my American Presidents' quotations - I remember it from the kids' film Pollyanna 😁

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