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Being called controlling

25 replies

Lisaxxxxx · 17/02/2024 19:56

Hi,

My head is spinning over my partner.

we have been through a lot of ups and downs but thought was coming through the other side.

Have stresses of kids, money etc but I pick up on things my partners does that make me feel uncomfortable. But when I bring things up he starts calling me controlling and nasty names.

We were in town today with our 3 year old and he found out his older daughter was in town with her mum. Since he found this out, he started striding in front then he would wait and as me and his daughter got closer he’d stride off again. We were walking at the same speed as we had all the time we were up town. And he was walking with us no issues until he realised his ex and daughter was up town. I brought this up but he got angry that I’d even suggest it saying horrible stuff about me. Saying I am trying to rule his life by wanting him to walk with me.

Earlier that day we were sitting in a cafe and he was sitting directly opposite our 3 year old for an hour. A few woman came in and sat behind me. I was diagonal to my partner. But he wasn’t facing me. When the girls came in, he moved his chair diagonally to me facing these girls. I know this sounds mad but I am not imagining either thing that happened but when I questioned him he went off on one putting me down saying I’m crazy and calling me controlling. I tried to explain it makes me feel sad because he turned away from his child to face me but coincidently facing these woman.

anyway I feel so alone. So I wanted to ask am I over reacting?

he told me I should lower my expectations and shouldn’t expect him to walk with me etc.

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GrazingSheep · 17/02/2024 19:57

He sounds horrible.

PrueRamsay · 17/02/2024 19:59

I am assuming his ex and their child know about you and your DD so why didn’t he want to be seen with you? How bizarre!

He sounds awful.

GrazingSheep · 17/02/2024 19:59

How long are you with him? Has he always been like this?

JacquesHarlow · 17/02/2024 20:00

What do you want to hear @Lisaxxxxx ?

he is clearly controlling, and emotionally manipulative

but do you have options? Can you conscience leaving him?

pikkumyy77 · 17/02/2024 20:00

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redalex261 · 17/02/2024 20:02

Sounds like an angry man. Name calling is unnecessary and mean. Sounds as if he is attacking you to deflect your comments about his cruddy behaviours. What’s the deal about bumping into ex & daughter? Why is he walking away? Not nice.

Lisaxxxxx · 17/02/2024 20:03

I am wondering if he is right. He’s walking paces ahead. I put 2 and 2 together and assumed it was because of his daughter and ex being in town as he wasn’t walking like this before. Should I have just left it alone and not bothered bringing it up? Am I so self absorbed

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JacquesHarlow · 17/02/2024 20:06

pikkumyy77 · 17/02/2024 20:00

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You know you can follow threads without typing random letters in them @pikkumyy77 ?

StealthMama · 17/02/2024 20:07

You have a put 2 +2 together, and you should trust your instinct.

What's your relationship normally like? He sounds passive aggressive, reflective and manipulative.

GrazingSheep · 17/02/2024 20:09

Stop doubting yourself.
It’s not you - it’s him.
Do you want your 3 year old growing up thinking this is normal behaviour?

Lisaxxxxx · 17/02/2024 20:10

He said I am always moaning about something. The ex is crazy if I’m honest and that’s not me being horrible about her. But I felt he was walking paces in front because if they did see us they’d see him not walking with us. And they’d like it. I don’t know why else he would show me and our 3 year old disrespect. His older daughter has gone home and filled her mums head with stuff about when we’ve argued etc. so she takes satisfaction out of it. he had been split up 4/5 years with his ex and things used to be ok with us but she’s turned on me because I won’t accept their 13 year old talking to me like absolute sh**t anymore. She always used to and I couldn’t say anything to her and my partner used to let it happen. But enough was enough so I have to tell her myself and her mum doesn’t like it.

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GrazingSheep · 17/02/2024 20:12

Are you working? Are you financially independent?

Lisaxxxxx · 17/02/2024 20:15

been together 5 years. Want always like this. Covid changed things and I had post natal depression and very severe Covid anxiety and I did seem controlling then as I didn’t want him near anyone as I was scared I would get Covid and die. This does sound extreme but I wasn’t myself.

I got myself back together and things were good. But when things were bad between us his older daughter picked up on this and things when she became so bad with me. Her dad would stick up for her and basically act like in the wicked step mother. I have put up with it for far too long with him just standing there allowing it and I won’t have it anymore and it all kicked off and her mum got involved. But I remained calm and thought we had sorted things saying we need to all stick together as the girls will only get worse and they will need us all but she went the other way again as their daughter was telling her mum lies. it’s put massive strain on things but when my partner becomes cold towards me he brings up the depression stuff.

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Lisaxxxxx · 17/02/2024 20:18

PrueRamsay · 17/02/2024 19:59

I am assuming his ex and their child know about you and your DD so why didn’t he want to be seen with you? How bizarre!

He sounds awful.

Because the ex has been taking satisfaction that we haven’t been getting on. So all I can think of he wanted them to believe things weren’t good as why would he not walk with us? This is why I’m messaging on here as I know I have my own issues but he tells me to lowers my expectations of what I think a relationship should look like. I’m not the best at explaining myself and can go off on a tangent.

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SgtJuneAckland · 17/02/2024 20:19

I really feel there isn't enough information here, If my husband accused me of changing the angle of my chair in a café because some men had come in, I'd be furious

Lisaxxxxx · 17/02/2024 20:23

GrazingSheep · 17/02/2024 20:12

Are you working? Are you financially independent?

I am. I have my own businesses but never got much money as I spend it on the family. I always pay for day trips holidays meals etc as it’s me that wants to go on them. He uses his money for him and his older daughter. But if I bring this up , it’s me that wants to spend. I am 43 years old and I feel like a child. I have left 2 previous relationships. And my partner has made comments about it must be me. And I thought there was better out there but I’ve made 2 kids grow up with out their dad living with them and thought I don’t want to do it again to another when I don’t want no one else

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Lisaxxxxx · 17/02/2024 20:27

SgtJuneAckland · 17/02/2024 20:19

I really feel there isn't enough information here, If my husband accused me of changing the angle of my chair in a café because some men had come in, I'd be furious

He has a long track record of doing this kind of stuff. Ever since I met him. I used to think he was doing it to test me but it wasn’t until I was pregnant I brought it up. He would not be looking around then all of a sudden a woman turns up and his head turns a million times. I used to let it go as I know it’s normal to look at the opposite sex and it’s healthy but a little bit too much looking for my liking. And he moved his chair to sit looking away from his 3 year old facing these woman. Just found it odd. And did make me uncomfortable but that’s why I’m putting on here as I don’t want to be a jealous person. And I will listen to you and others.

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YouHaveLostTheGame · 17/02/2024 21:15

Lisaxxxxx · 17/02/2024 20:15

been together 5 years. Want always like this. Covid changed things and I had post natal depression and very severe Covid anxiety and I did seem controlling then as I didn’t want him near anyone as I was scared I would get Covid and die. This does sound extreme but I wasn’t myself.

I got myself back together and things were good. But when things were bad between us his older daughter picked up on this and things when she became so bad with me. Her dad would stick up for her and basically act like in the wicked step mother. I have put up with it for far too long with him just standing there allowing it and I won’t have it anymore and it all kicked off and her mum got involved. But I remained calm and thought we had sorted things saying we need to all stick together as the girls will only get worse and they will need us all but she went the other way again as their daughter was telling her mum lies. it’s put massive strain on things but when my partner becomes cold towards me he brings up the depression stuff.

How did your Covid anxiety present itself?

When you say you didn't want him around anyone, do you mean his own children?

Four years ago his eldest will have been 9 and if your Covid anxiety caused you to be controlling with him, is it possible you were controlling with his children too, did
you try controlling in how often he had his children at his home or where he spent with them? I'm not asking to judge, you weren't the only person scared shitless by covid, but if he did things like see his children or they picked up that you didn't want him around his children as much, then it could be why the 13 year old seems to have an issue with you. It could also be why the ex has developed an issue with you.

I kind of wonder if rather than it being about the ex enjoying you guys having relationship issues, at the start of Covid and your anxiety presenting as being controlling with who he saw, to them possibly looked like his daughter was being pushed out and not included as part of the pregnancy. How often did she come and stay during that time?

His often were/are you guys actually arguing around his stepdaughter?

Is it possible he was walking ahead because so if he bumped into his dd he could chat without you, his dd and her mother having an atmosphere?

I won't lie, my dad and my stepmum used to have raging arguments when were allowed to stay (which was once a month even though he lived five mins away) and my stepmum would sometimes have a go at me if I told my mum about the arguing and said she was jealous.

My Mam actually couldn't give a flying fuck about them getting on, she gave a flying fuck about my emotional well being though and because I was always quiet and withdrawn after being at stepmums house, and I told about the things I'd heard, she pulled my Dad up about the arguing around his children. Id be very uoset and sometimes scared when they were shouting and screaming at each other and a lot of the arguments were my stepmum telling my Dad what he is and isn't allowed to do with me. Some of the arguments would be about my Mam being jealous of them when it wasn't. If anything it's the other way round.

My Dad and stepmum mentioned my mother every single time I spoke to them, my Mam rarely asked about my Dad unless I visibly anxious and withdrawn. Over 20 years after my mother left my Dad he and his girlfriends or wives would still want to know her movements.

Is your three year old hearing these arguments all the time too. It sounds like a really toxic dynamic to be honest.

TwylaSands · 17/02/2024 21:20

Your relationship sounds like hard work. If you want to leave, leave.

PerfectTravelTote · 17/02/2024 21:21

"The ex is crazy if I’m honest"

The crazy ex is a cliche. It's more likely she's a woman who doesn't take his shit anymore. Personally, I view a man having a so called "crazy ex" as a red flag.

GrazingSheep · 17/02/2024 21:32

So you have had children with 2 other men and you feel you can’t leave your current partner because you can’t have another child growing up without a dad?

Lisaxxxxx · 17/02/2024 21:51

YouHaveLostTheGame · 17/02/2024 21:15

How did your Covid anxiety present itself?

When you say you didn't want him around anyone, do you mean his own children?

Four years ago his eldest will have been 9 and if your Covid anxiety caused you to be controlling with him, is it possible you were controlling with his children too, did
you try controlling in how often he had his children at his home or where he spent with them? I'm not asking to judge, you weren't the only person scared shitless by covid, but if he did things like see his children or they picked up that you didn't want him around his children as much, then it could be why the 13 year old seems to have an issue with you. It could also be why the ex has developed an issue with you.

I kind of wonder if rather than it being about the ex enjoying you guys having relationship issues, at the start of Covid and your anxiety presenting as being controlling with who he saw, to them possibly looked like his daughter was being pushed out and not included as part of the pregnancy. How often did she come and stay during that time?

His often were/are you guys actually arguing around his stepdaughter?

Is it possible he was walking ahead because so if he bumped into his dd he could chat without you, his dd and her mother having an atmosphere?

I won't lie, my dad and my stepmum used to have raging arguments when were allowed to stay (which was once a month even though he lived five mins away) and my stepmum would sometimes have a go at me if I told my mum about the arguing and said she was jealous.

My Mam actually couldn't give a flying fuck about them getting on, she gave a flying fuck about my emotional well being though and because I was always quiet and withdrawn after being at stepmums house, and I told about the things I'd heard, she pulled my Dad up about the arguing around his children. Id be very uoset and sometimes scared when they were shouting and screaming at each other and a lot of the arguments were my stepmum telling my Dad what he is and isn't allowed to do with me. Some of the arguments would be about my Mam being jealous of them when it wasn't. If anything it's the other way round.

My Dad and stepmum mentioned my mother every single time I spoke to them, my Mam rarely asked about my Dad unless I visibly anxious and withdrawn. Over 20 years after my mother left my Dad he and his girlfriends or wives would still want to know her movements.

Is your three year old hearing these arguments all the time too. It sounds like a really toxic dynamic to be honest.

the only time I wasn’t happy his daughter came was when she had Covid symptoms and she was poorly. That only happed a couple of times in the year. When I had our baby both his older daughter and my older daughter stayed at their other parents until our baby was 1 week so we could be sure was no chance of her getting Covid. But that wasn’t just my decision.

I am sorry to hear about how things were for you but I can assure you this isn’t the case here.

my partner has his older daughter every weekend which is one of the reasons I feel in love with him. He stepped up as a dad. Her mum couldn’t deal with her behavior so hasn’t been a very great mum to her. But this hasn’t been spoken to her. My step daughter’s behavior isn’t the best at all. And was being allowed to talk to me like absolute rubbish. And my partner chose to ignore this because of who her mum is and the unstable behaviour from her mum. She goes absolute psycho over the smallest thing. I witnessed it over my step daughter calling her for toilet roll. She went absolutely crazy. So I see where he is coming from but him not setting any boundaries just allowed my step daughter to think it was ok to mouth and gob at me. Treat our 3 year old badly. I and her dad witnessed her hurt her sister more than one time because she knew she could get away with it. So yes now I do say something now. Hardly the same as your situation. I have no desires to bring her mum up. And I certainly don’t bitch about her. It all came out recently that his daughter was going home as her mum wanted her to report on what was happening at our house and we would have bickering about cleaning barely raising voices and his daughter tell her mum we’ve been arguing. The mum loves it. There’s no need for it. Like I’ve said my step daughter is only going to get worse and need us all working together being united. I have given no reason at all for her mum to have an issue with me.

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Lisaxxxxx · 17/02/2024 21:54

GrazingSheep · 17/02/2024 21:32

So you have had children with 2 other men and you feel you can’t leave your current partner because you can’t have another child growing up without a dad?

That’s how I feel. It would really hurt me if my daughter didn’t have her dad living with her. Maybe it’s because I have no need to find anyone else. It’s not a toxic environment. We don’t argue in front of the kids. My step daughter does bring a lot of issues. But if she was our daughter we would work it out like families do. But it does put a strain on things.

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GrazingSheep · 17/02/2024 21:59

How old are your older children?
Are they living with you?

Lisaxxxxx · 18/02/2024 07:45

GrazingSheep · 17/02/2024 21:59

How old are your older children?
Are they living with you?

One is 25 and does not live with me. One is 11 and does live with me.

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