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To think neighbour is wrong about fence?

47 replies

FencesFences · 15/02/2024 21:43

My new neighbour has moved in and immediately changed the boundary fence between our houses. In the deeds it's their responsibility, nothing was wrong with the old one but they wanted to raise the height, fair enough.

However, they have removed the top and bottom 'shared' posts at the ends of their boundary fence (which form part of front and rear fences), detached the brackets from my adjoining fence and replaced the wooden posts with concrete posts that only they can use. My front fence and rear fence are now 'loose' with no post to attach to.

I believe that as the shared posts formed part of the front and back fences they should have left them (see diagram). They could have left or simply replaced these posts and reattached my fence as previously. They are refusing to do this or anything to resolve amicably.

Fwiw I also can't put in an adjacent fence post to secure my existing fence as their new posts are concrete not wood, therefore the 'footing' underneath prevents another post being close.

As it stands my only option without their cooperation would be to move my front and rear fences a couple of feet forward or back, which is costly and will look stupid as we will no longer have a symmetrical fence line.

'T's on diagram denote who maintains each fence, orange dot is one of the two previously shared fence posts now replaced.

NB due to the central shared posts being removed my garden gate has also collapsed and my garden obviously not secure, my fence now flaps in the wind. I've been nothing but nice to them, so quite upset about their behaviour here.

To think neighbour is wrong about fence?
OP posts:
DRS1970 · 16/02/2024 11:05

It is a bit of a crappy thing to do. But couldn't the concrete posts be drilled to accommodate your fence brackets? That is one we did with one corner of our fence line where dissimilar fences meet.

GasPanic · 16/02/2024 11:07

DRS1970 · 16/02/2024 11:05

It is a bit of a crappy thing to do. But couldn't the concrete posts be drilled to accommodate your fence brackets? That is one we did with one corner of our fence line where dissimilar fences meet.

The OP has said that the neighbour has refused to allow their post to be drilled.

LIZS · 16/02/2024 11:08

Very difficult to drill into those concrete posts anyway

SinnerBoy · 16/02/2024 11:10

FencesFences · Yesterday 23:28

HideTheCow thanks I really appreciate it. I've found the whole thing very stressful tbh, I can't even put my bins out since they collapsed my gate.

Surely it must not be allowed for them to just leave your gate unattached like that? I think that you should seek legal advice, if you don't want to have repairs / replacements at your cost.

Jamazon1 · 16/02/2024 11:19

Several years ago I had some fencing related issues with a neighbour and I contacted the local council planning officer for advice. In that situation he was really helpful, gave me the facts about border fences etc. and I felt more confident in dealing with the neighbours. This enabled a (amicable) resolution in the end. Might be worth you enquiring.

sleepyscientist · 16/02/2024 11:20

Attach your gate to your house with a bolt at the bottom that goes into the ground, fence at the bottom just bring your new post past the footing of theirs and concrete it in. Attach fence using right and left hand brackets on either side of the post job done.

SinnerBoy · 16/02/2024 11:21

I wasn't sure if the planning department would intervene, but that would be less costly than a solicitor.

LIZS · 16/02/2024 11:23

Planning won't get involved in boundary disputes. Can the gate be trimmed or rehung with a new post? The fence in picture you posted, is the room on other side for a post?

DRS1970 · 16/02/2024 11:23

GasPanic · 16/02/2024 11:07

The OP has said that the neighbour has refused to allow their post to be drilled.

No they didn't. They just said the neighbour had refused to do anything amicable. The OP didn't say the neighbour said the OP couldn't attach anything to their post.

OhmygodDont · 16/02/2024 11:28

I’d put your new post in where you can and then attach the fence to the new post. Just your fence will go further along than the post but it will then be secured.

With regards to the gate can you not post even a small post next to and then attach the locking side to your house? or trim the gate and post.

They have stated they do not give permission for anything to be attached to their fence or posts so considering they give no shits to inform before changing the fencing etc I would not risk screwing in to it like some have recommended. One you don’t own it so you would be committing criminal damage to their property.

WhistPie · 16/02/2024 12:12

I'd wait until they go on holiday then burn their house down if it's not attached to yours hth

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 16/02/2024 12:34

VeniVidiWeeWee · 15/02/2024 22:38

Trespass is a civil matter. What you suggest would be criminal damage.

The neighbours digging a hole in the OP's land and then pouring concrete into it would constitute damage, not simply civil trespass. The OP can't be charged with criminal damage for removing or drilling into something on her own land, unless someone else had proper permission from the landowner (the OP) to put it there.

ConsistentlyElectrifiedElves · 16/02/2024 12:38

Do you have legal cover with your home insurance OP? I think it's something that needs some proper legal advice TBH.

We have a fence between our and our neighbour's property and we each have adjacent gates fixed to the post that's at the end of the fence. The fence is our neighbour's responsibility and they recently replaced it. They put a new post in the end that our gate is still able to close on to, because ultimately it is the good and nice thing to do.

And these are neighbours that we barely speak to, though don't have any animosity with.

pickledandpuzzled · 16/02/2024 12:51

I would check with local planning and any legal helpline you are entitled to access, then tell the neighbours to reinstate the joint fence post they shouldn’t have removed.

You could post on a local community Facebooks, asking for advice as neighbour has removed the shared fence post.

GasPanic · 16/02/2024 13:05

DRS1970 · 16/02/2024 11:23

No they didn't. They just said the neighbour had refused to do anything amicable. The OP didn't say the neighbour said the OP couldn't attach anything to their post.

Read the OPs 3rd post.

I think I would do what someone else suggested, wait until they were away and then just dig out a hole right next to their post and put in a new one of my own.

SinnerBoy · 16/02/2024 13:06

WhistPie · Today 12:12

You might want to ask MNHQ to delete that, I made a similar tongue in cheek post and got suspended for a week....

WhistPie · 16/02/2024 13:34

SinnerBoy · 16/02/2024 13:06

WhistPie · Today 12:12

You might want to ask MNHQ to delete that, I made a similar tongue in cheek post and got suspended for a week....

Sheesh, suspension wouldn't bother me tbh, this place isn't good for my blood pressure!

AndSoFinally · 16/02/2024 15:48

If you're not allowed to touch their fence post to attach your fence, how come they were allowed to touch your fence to remove your brackets?

Surely they can't have it both ways?

stichguru · 16/02/2024 16:24

I'd contact the council for advice. Everyone whose garden is bordered by one fence that isn't theirs must have to deal with this, and I can't imagine that you neighbours are the only people in the country who aren't being reasonable about it. Therefore I imagine there are some clear rules about what you can do even if the neighbours don't agree to it, and what can be physically done to get round anything that they stop you doing, that they are legally allowed to stop you doing.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 16/02/2024 16:36

Can you fix one of these to their concrete footing right next to their post, and fit your own, and attach your fence to it?

To think neighbour is wrong about fence?
OhcantthInkofaname · 16/02/2024 17:22

They "have prohibited you" from installing a post? Not sure how they can prohibit you from using your own property.

chauhansaurabh310 · 24/06/2024 12:01

We used something like this fence and then the attachment to secure the fence.Can't see the neighbours complaining. I can find the link to the exact one but they were simple to use/fit. .

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