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Independent school teacher forced to leave due to pay cut.

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Pensionworries · 14/02/2024 20:43

I left the state sector to teach in an independent school a few years ago and I have loved how much more freedom I have had to be creative and really be the teacher I’ve always wanted to be. Having smaller class sizes has meant I get amazing job satisfaction from meeting the children’s individual needs. My colleagues are lovely and it’s a beautiful, friendly environment to work in.

But… recently us teachers were told by the governors that the school, like many independent schools, is not able to keep up with the Teacher Pension Scheme contributions so all teachers are now encouraged to either go to a different scheme (all are rubbish compared to the TPS) or take a 10% pay cut in order to pay in to it ourselves. There’s a hike in April and apparently another 5% hike due later in the year. Thanks government. 😔

I was happy-ish to take the hit now and maintain my TPS pension but, because my pension is based on my average earnings over the course of my career, I can’t really justify staying somewhere where I’m about to lose £5K a year plus take a hard hit on my pension just because I’m happy there.

I feel like it’s taken me years to find a school that I’m really happy working in and now it’s all been taken away in the blink of an eye. I’m gutted. 😞

It’s pretty galling that the school is also currently having a new swimming pool and equestrian facility built, ‘to attract new customers’, whilst I’m pulling 12 hour days and set to lose so much money. It feels like a real kick in the teeth.

Aside from asking for a pay-rise, I can’t think of any other way to go other than to leave.

I’m already worrying about awful academy chain schools run by toxic managers, under managers, executive managers and so on. I’m a good teacher and work extremely hard. Is it too much to ask to commit to a good school and be rewarded financially for my skills and hard work?

OP posts:
miniaturepixieonacid · 15/02/2024 09:44

The private school I teach in went through this a few years ago. Came out of TPS and we've been on a very long pay freeze meaning we earn far less than we would in state sector.

But I teach an Arts subject which has been so underfunded and devalued in many state schools that it almost doesn't exist. And I have small classes, long holidays and a good departmental budget. Plus autonomy to teach what I want. So it's all very much worth the lower income to me.

miniaturepixieonacid · 15/02/2024 09:46

LovelyTherea it depends on the school. They basically pay what they want/can afford. So some pay way less, others pay a lot more ans others mirror state exactly.

LuluBlakey1 · 15/02/2024 09:48

Pensionworries · 15/02/2024 08:55

The state sector is now predominantly made up of academies which are just glorified pyramid schemes, with all the money landing in the pockets of the business managers and CEOs, most of whom couldn’t handle half a day in the classroom.

At least the private sector wears its heart on its sleeve and doesn’t pretend it’s not a business. Academy schools are scandalous and believe me, the last thing on the minds of the leaders is good education for children and definitely not the wellbeing of teachers.

I have worked in several academies and the appalling resources and lack of funding for this country’s poorest children was beyond shocking. Poor teachers constantly scrutinised by expensive leaders who clip clop around the corridors in their Armani suits who have the audacity to park in the staff carpark in a Lamborghini next to the battered old bangers of the teachers.

Many MATS are going bankrupt. Good!

The TPS is a scheme for teachers. I won’t be made to feel immoral for paying into it.

Teachers are teachers whichever school they work in. We all went to the same polys!

True colours showing here. Criticising academies for their provision for 'this country's poorest children' whilst choosing to avoid helping those children completely yourself but you'd like to stay in the pension scheme.

I am completely anti-academies for a long list of reasons but independent schools are no better morally.

Anyone who opts out of a state system has no right to a state pension in my view.

You might have gone to a 'poly'. Most teachers attended decent unis and have good quality degrees- apart from PE teachers and some elderly teachers who may have attended 'polys'.

The worst candidate I ever interviewed for a teaching job had a first from Oxford.

neverbeenskiing · 15/02/2024 09:51

It’s pretty galling that the school is also currently having a new swimming pool and equestrian facility built, ‘to attract new customers’, whilst I’m pulling 12 hour days and set to lose so much money. It feels like a real kick in the teeth.

It's a business. It shouldn't come as a shock that they prioritise profit over people.

SiobahnRoy · 15/02/2024 09:54

OP you seem to want your cake and eat it

LuluBlakey1 · 15/02/2024 09:54

LovelyTheresa · 15/02/2024 09:36

Yes, but that is unusual. I know teachers in the private sector and they are on a lot of money. Something isn't adding up.

I agree- something fishy.

Nw22 · 15/02/2024 09:55

I’m not sure how this is the governments fault. Your pension costs a lot so your employer needs to contribute more. If they can’t and you want the pension you need to go back to a state school.

Eleganz · 15/02/2024 09:58

So you have a bunch of private businesses paying less than public sector rates of pay, making staff take significant pay cuts or reduction in pension conditions whilst making significant capital investments and charging significant fees for their services and these staff are worried about "toxic managers" in the public sector. Well okay then...

You know what your choices are so you are just going to have to make them and live with it.

I'm afraid my heart will never bleed for the private education sector, especially if this is how they treat their teaching staff.

TeacherCollection · 15/02/2024 09:58

Independent teachers want it all. They want the state backed enormous pension, but they want the small class sizes to teach and the almost free school places for their own children.

You cannot have everything! The independent school parents are funding all this, do you really think they’ll cough up an extra 5% for the TPS rise this year whilst your children go to the school for pennies?

Flightsoffancy · 15/02/2024 10:07

My small independent primary school left the TPS quite quickly when all this started. They arranged new pensions for us. Although several people threatened to go, no one has actually left as our working conditions and the ethos of the school are so good. That's worth a lot. It does depend on where you are in your career and your own financial position, of course, but even younger teachers stayed in our case. And as pp have mentioned, the TPS probably won't be around for much longer, especially in its current form. Good luck with deciding!

WASZPy · 15/02/2024 10:10

I'm pretty sure state schools would also be leaving the TPS in droves if they had the option.

Instead they will just have to continue cutting staffing to beyond the bone to afford the ones they have.

Pensionworries · 15/02/2024 10:33

Thank you so much for your replies.

I count myself lucky in some ways that it’s taking me such a long time to wake up to the realisation that the school is, at the end of the day, a business. I must be very idealistic and by the sounds of things, unrealistic so thanks for the head wobble!

I am naturally a socialist, but due to awful experiences working in academy chain schools, where the leaders cosplay as leaders working for a public service, while taking all of the govt funding to pay themselves and sod what the children/ families/ teachers need in order to thrive.

It’s imperative that I have good mental health for the sake of my own family, so I couldn’t really afford to have a job which aligned with my principals - that is, I think, the definition of privilege.

In the awful academy schools, you can’t make a difference.

I regularly had children coming to me telling me things like they’d seen their mum’s boyfriend punch them in the tummy or they sleep on a bare mattress covered in fleas and the DSL told me each and every time that one of these many disclosures came, that I had to go and tell the parents that their child had said this on the playground at pick up time.

Of course, the result was the child was told off by their parents and threatened that they'd be taken away if they told me anything else. The children then didn’t. So from the school’s point of view, that safeguarding issue had been dealt with as no more disclosures were appearing on their system.

When I told the DSL that I didn’t agree with this course of action, I was put on a safeguarding course in my own time and the implication that I didn’t understand was incredibly humiliating and belittling. Chip chip chip away at your confidence is a big part of the game.

My class was shared by a rotation of unknown supply teachers as I worked only 2.5 days a week as a maternity leave cover. I was expected to do all of the reports, planning and assessment for the whole week (I was also working in another school at this point so it was such a high workload).

I had an awful TA who would constantly undermine me, mock me, who shouted at the children and seemed to think she ruled the school and even when I complained about her, nothing happened.

There were countless parents asking me to fill out DLA forms for them and the school wouldn’t allow me to speak honestly about the symptoms of ASD/ ADHD that I observed in their children.

There were children who had severe disabilities. One, who had the mental age of a 2 year old in a Year 1 class who was supposedly given a 1:1 TA each day to help him access his learning. He would cry coming in to class because the environment (lots of swearing, loud, sometimes violent children) was not right for him. He’d lay on the carpet for hours at a time staring at a car, would often fall asleep. The loud TA would scold him for falling asleep. I told the SMT about all of this and they responded by putting me on a behaviour management course (in my own time!!) all of the books and resources were dog-eared and poor quality.

Honestly, when I left I felt like I was leaving an abusive relationship. I was gaslit into believing it was my weaknesses that were the issue.

The parents hadn’t even been shown the respect to be told that for half of the week there were random supply teachers put in their child’s class all year. I was told not to tell them.

If I could make a change, I would but the management of these places need to genuinely care about change. There were so so many head/ deputies/ managers sat in plush offices, drinking lattes or ‘working from home’ I often wondered why they didn’t come and teach?

When I handed in my notice, the Head (who I hadn’t seen once in the whole time I worked there) came to see me, trying get out of me the reasons why. I gave him nothing.

Just for context, I have literally only had outstanding lesson observations.

After this experience, I researched MATs on Glassdoor and found that my story was not in any way, rare.

I make no apologies for opting to teach in a place where children and parents want to learn. After all, I went in to teaching to teach, not battle pigs in the trough and fight for resources for children who have a right to them.

One day, I want to set up an adult literacy initiative because most of the problems I witnessed at this school were due to the school-based trauma of parents being passed on to children.

OP posts:
Crackoncrackerjack · 15/02/2024 10:37

I’m SLT in a MAT, it’s nothing like you describe

LuluBlakey1 · 15/02/2024 10:38

Pensionworries · 15/02/2024 10:33

Thank you so much for your replies.

I count myself lucky in some ways that it’s taking me such a long time to wake up to the realisation that the school is, at the end of the day, a business. I must be very idealistic and by the sounds of things, unrealistic so thanks for the head wobble!

I am naturally a socialist, but due to awful experiences working in academy chain schools, where the leaders cosplay as leaders working for a public service, while taking all of the govt funding to pay themselves and sod what the children/ families/ teachers need in order to thrive.

It’s imperative that I have good mental health for the sake of my own family, so I couldn’t really afford to have a job which aligned with my principals - that is, I think, the definition of privilege.

In the awful academy schools, you can’t make a difference.

I regularly had children coming to me telling me things like they’d seen their mum’s boyfriend punch them in the tummy or they sleep on a bare mattress covered in fleas and the DSL told me each and every time that one of these many disclosures came, that I had to go and tell the parents that their child had said this on the playground at pick up time.

Of course, the result was the child was told off by their parents and threatened that they'd be taken away if they told me anything else. The children then didn’t. So from the school’s point of view, that safeguarding issue had been dealt with as no more disclosures were appearing on their system.

When I told the DSL that I didn’t agree with this course of action, I was put on a safeguarding course in my own time and the implication that I didn’t understand was incredibly humiliating and belittling. Chip chip chip away at your confidence is a big part of the game.

My class was shared by a rotation of unknown supply teachers as I worked only 2.5 days a week as a maternity leave cover. I was expected to do all of the reports, planning and assessment for the whole week (I was also working in another school at this point so it was such a high workload).

I had an awful TA who would constantly undermine me, mock me, who shouted at the children and seemed to think she ruled the school and even when I complained about her, nothing happened.

There were countless parents asking me to fill out DLA forms for them and the school wouldn’t allow me to speak honestly about the symptoms of ASD/ ADHD that I observed in their children.

There were children who had severe disabilities. One, who had the mental age of a 2 year old in a Year 1 class who was supposedly given a 1:1 TA each day to help him access his learning. He would cry coming in to class because the environment (lots of swearing, loud, sometimes violent children) was not right for him. He’d lay on the carpet for hours at a time staring at a car, would often fall asleep. The loud TA would scold him for falling asleep. I told the SMT about all of this and they responded by putting me on a behaviour management course (in my own time!!) all of the books and resources were dog-eared and poor quality.

Honestly, when I left I felt like I was leaving an abusive relationship. I was gaslit into believing it was my weaknesses that were the issue.

The parents hadn’t even been shown the respect to be told that for half of the week there were random supply teachers put in their child’s class all year. I was told not to tell them.

If I could make a change, I would but the management of these places need to genuinely care about change. There were so so many head/ deputies/ managers sat in plush offices, drinking lattes or ‘working from home’ I often wondered why they didn’t come and teach?

When I handed in my notice, the Head (who I hadn’t seen once in the whole time I worked there) came to see me, trying get out of me the reasons why. I gave him nothing.

Just for context, I have literally only had outstanding lesson observations.

After this experience, I researched MATs on Glassdoor and found that my story was not in any way, rare.

I make no apologies for opting to teach in a place where children and parents want to learn. After all, I went in to teaching to teach, not battle pigs in the trough and fight for resources for children who have a right to them.

One day, I want to set up an adult literacy initiative because most of the problems I witnessed at this school were due to the school-based trauma of parents being passed on to children.

You seem keen to convince us you are genuinely a person with good intentions, who cares about less fortunate children but makes choices that demonstrate the opposite.

Actually, a lot of the difference made to vulnerable children comes from the day to day support, care and encouragement staff who work with them for years provide. They get to know them and their vulnerabilities and provide consistency, care and constancy that is lacking at home.

I've lost interest. Am off this thread.

Crackoncrackerjack · 15/02/2024 10:42

Op wants an easier life in the private sector but with all the salary and pension benefits of the state

neverbeenskiing · 15/02/2024 10:51

Pensionworries · 15/02/2024 10:33

Thank you so much for your replies.

I count myself lucky in some ways that it’s taking me such a long time to wake up to the realisation that the school is, at the end of the day, a business. I must be very idealistic and by the sounds of things, unrealistic so thanks for the head wobble!

I am naturally a socialist, but due to awful experiences working in academy chain schools, where the leaders cosplay as leaders working for a public service, while taking all of the govt funding to pay themselves and sod what the children/ families/ teachers need in order to thrive.

It’s imperative that I have good mental health for the sake of my own family, so I couldn’t really afford to have a job which aligned with my principals - that is, I think, the definition of privilege.

In the awful academy schools, you can’t make a difference.

I regularly had children coming to me telling me things like they’d seen their mum’s boyfriend punch them in the tummy or they sleep on a bare mattress covered in fleas and the DSL told me each and every time that one of these many disclosures came, that I had to go and tell the parents that their child had said this on the playground at pick up time.

Of course, the result was the child was told off by their parents and threatened that they'd be taken away if they told me anything else. The children then didn’t. So from the school’s point of view, that safeguarding issue had been dealt with as no more disclosures were appearing on their system.

When I told the DSL that I didn’t agree with this course of action, I was put on a safeguarding course in my own time and the implication that I didn’t understand was incredibly humiliating and belittling. Chip chip chip away at your confidence is a big part of the game.

My class was shared by a rotation of unknown supply teachers as I worked only 2.5 days a week as a maternity leave cover. I was expected to do all of the reports, planning and assessment for the whole week (I was also working in another school at this point so it was such a high workload).

I had an awful TA who would constantly undermine me, mock me, who shouted at the children and seemed to think she ruled the school and even when I complained about her, nothing happened.

There were countless parents asking me to fill out DLA forms for them and the school wouldn’t allow me to speak honestly about the symptoms of ASD/ ADHD that I observed in their children.

There were children who had severe disabilities. One, who had the mental age of a 2 year old in a Year 1 class who was supposedly given a 1:1 TA each day to help him access his learning. He would cry coming in to class because the environment (lots of swearing, loud, sometimes violent children) was not right for him. He’d lay on the carpet for hours at a time staring at a car, would often fall asleep. The loud TA would scold him for falling asleep. I told the SMT about all of this and they responded by putting me on a behaviour management course (in my own time!!) all of the books and resources were dog-eared and poor quality.

Honestly, when I left I felt like I was leaving an abusive relationship. I was gaslit into believing it was my weaknesses that were the issue.

The parents hadn’t even been shown the respect to be told that for half of the week there were random supply teachers put in their child’s class all year. I was told not to tell them.

If I could make a change, I would but the management of these places need to genuinely care about change. There were so so many head/ deputies/ managers sat in plush offices, drinking lattes or ‘working from home’ I often wondered why they didn’t come and teach?

When I handed in my notice, the Head (who I hadn’t seen once in the whole time I worked there) came to see me, trying get out of me the reasons why. I gave him nothing.

Just for context, I have literally only had outstanding lesson observations.

After this experience, I researched MATs on Glassdoor and found that my story was not in any way, rare.

I make no apologies for opting to teach in a place where children and parents want to learn. After all, I went in to teaching to teach, not battle pigs in the trough and fight for resources for children who have a right to them.

One day, I want to set up an adult literacy initiative because most of the problems I witnessed at this school were due to the school-based trauma of parents being passed on to children.

None of the academies I've worked in have been remotely like you describe. I'm not denying your experience, I just think its important not to tar all academies with the same brush.

It’s imperative that I have good mental health for the sake of my own family, so I couldn’t really afford to have a job which aligned with my principals - that is, I think, the definition of privilege.

Anyone has the right to make choices that are good for their mental health. But do you really not see the irony in you choosing to work for a business that caters to the wealthiest in society, coming on here complaining about your pension and then implying that teachers working in state schools in areas with high levels of socioeconomic deprivation need to check their privilege?

We all make our choices, you don't need to justify yours to anyone and you definitely don't need to do these mental gymnastics to justify them to yourself.

wonderstuff · 15/02/2024 10:53

There’s a huge shortage of teachers, if you aren’t happy other schools are available.

theresnolimits · 15/02/2024 11:04

Pensionworries · 15/02/2024 10:33

Thank you so much for your replies.

I count myself lucky in some ways that it’s taking me such a long time to wake up to the realisation that the school is, at the end of the day, a business. I must be very idealistic and by the sounds of things, unrealistic so thanks for the head wobble!

I am naturally a socialist, but due to awful experiences working in academy chain schools, where the leaders cosplay as leaders working for a public service, while taking all of the govt funding to pay themselves and sod what the children/ families/ teachers need in order to thrive.

It’s imperative that I have good mental health for the sake of my own family, so I couldn’t really afford to have a job which aligned with my principals - that is, I think, the definition of privilege.

In the awful academy schools, you can’t make a difference.

I regularly had children coming to me telling me things like they’d seen their mum’s boyfriend punch them in the tummy or they sleep on a bare mattress covered in fleas and the DSL told me each and every time that one of these many disclosures came, that I had to go and tell the parents that their child had said this on the playground at pick up time.

Of course, the result was the child was told off by their parents and threatened that they'd be taken away if they told me anything else. The children then didn’t. So from the school’s point of view, that safeguarding issue had been dealt with as no more disclosures were appearing on their system.

When I told the DSL that I didn’t agree with this course of action, I was put on a safeguarding course in my own time and the implication that I didn’t understand was incredibly humiliating and belittling. Chip chip chip away at your confidence is a big part of the game.

My class was shared by a rotation of unknown supply teachers as I worked only 2.5 days a week as a maternity leave cover. I was expected to do all of the reports, planning and assessment for the whole week (I was also working in another school at this point so it was such a high workload).

I had an awful TA who would constantly undermine me, mock me, who shouted at the children and seemed to think she ruled the school and even when I complained about her, nothing happened.

There were countless parents asking me to fill out DLA forms for them and the school wouldn’t allow me to speak honestly about the symptoms of ASD/ ADHD that I observed in their children.

There were children who had severe disabilities. One, who had the mental age of a 2 year old in a Year 1 class who was supposedly given a 1:1 TA each day to help him access his learning. He would cry coming in to class because the environment (lots of swearing, loud, sometimes violent children) was not right for him. He’d lay on the carpet for hours at a time staring at a car, would often fall asleep. The loud TA would scold him for falling asleep. I told the SMT about all of this and they responded by putting me on a behaviour management course (in my own time!!) all of the books and resources were dog-eared and poor quality.

Honestly, when I left I felt like I was leaving an abusive relationship. I was gaslit into believing it was my weaknesses that were the issue.

The parents hadn’t even been shown the respect to be told that for half of the week there were random supply teachers put in their child’s class all year. I was told not to tell them.

If I could make a change, I would but the management of these places need to genuinely care about change. There were so so many head/ deputies/ managers sat in plush offices, drinking lattes or ‘working from home’ I often wondered why they didn’t come and teach?

When I handed in my notice, the Head (who I hadn’t seen once in the whole time I worked there) came to see me, trying get out of me the reasons why. I gave him nothing.

Just for context, I have literally only had outstanding lesson observations.

After this experience, I researched MATs on Glassdoor and found that my story was not in any way, rare.

I make no apologies for opting to teach in a place where children and parents want to learn. After all, I went in to teaching to teach, not battle pigs in the trough and fight for resources for children who have a right to them.

One day, I want to set up an adult literacy initiative because most of the problems I witnessed at this school were due to the school-based trauma of parents being passed on to children.

You have clearly had a bad experience but were you just a two and a half day a week supply teacher for a MAT cover? Have you taught at a range of schools where you’ve had the same experience? Because it does seem extreme.

I’ve taught at a single school academy and noticed no difference from when it transitioned from LA school to academy. Same buildings/staff/ kids.

I think some struggling schools have benefitted from being part of a large academy chain with extra support/ teaching resources/ experienced staff parachuted in. And of course there are other academy chains that have been less successful but let’s not kid ourselves that the Local Authority Education departments didn’t have some overpaid executives who didn’t add a lot of value to schools. Our LA subject advisor back in the day for example was just a teacher who couldn’t hack it in the classroom.

You do get advantages teaching in the private sector (longer holidays, more resources, better behaved kids). I’ve never heard pay was better BTW ~ always thought you had to make it up by extra duties. But now you can see you won’t get the advantage of the TPS. Only you can weigh up what is more important to you ~ as indeed many other people have to in many other walks of life.

shiningstar2 · 15/02/2024 11:11

I have taught in both the public and the private sector and found both rewarding in different ways. There are now massive underfunding issues in the public sector with large, sometimes difficult classes and every day occurrence. Like you, I was paid less in the private sector and my school didn't use the public sector pension or pay scale. I t just couldn't afford it. Don't you think that the teachers dealing with the massive issues you describe deserve to be paid more op? I also worked very long hours in the private sector but the small class sizes, less social issues, less behaviour problems made the teaching, which is what I loved, so much less problematical. You can't have your cake and eat it, if the school you are at needs to stay financially viable. You have a choice ...Go back to the conditions you describe with classes of 30 or more and get paid accordingly, or stick with maybe 15 to 20 in a class with far fewer issues, enjoy more, have less stress ...and get paid less. Many small independent schools fold as prices go up so if course the school has to invest in what it offers or go under. This is what happened to my school. I took the view that my skills were for sale ..but not necessarily to the highest bidder. Job satisfaction meant a lot. My school not only didn't do the teachers pension, it also asked teachers to take a 10% cut in pay to stay viable for a while. There is a teacher shortage op ...plenty of jobs out there ...but I would guess not many with the conditions you currently enjoy. The reality is that fees would have to go up if the school was to try to keep pace with state teacher salaries. The knock on effect of that is some parents vote with their feet. When big sister leaves, little brother doesn't start.bin a COL crisis this happens in independent schools quite frequently. You probably feel hard done by when you see other professionals on more with better pensions but you're at work a long time and job satisfaction is important. It seems you have a clear choice to make between public sector pay with public sector conditions or private sector pay with private sector conditions.

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 15/02/2024 11:25

I'm amazed that you can carry on in the TPS in a private school.
Your decision is no more difficult than the rest of us. I earn £45k not in education. My employer puts in 3%. I save an extra 15% myself. If I could sacrifice £5k a year and have a defined benefit scheme I would jump at it.

IsthisthereallifeIsthisjustfantasy · 15/02/2024 12:17

It’s pretty galling that the school is also currently having a new swimming pool and equestrian facility built, ‘to attract new customers’, whilst I’m pulling 12 hour days and set to lose so much money. It feels like a real kick in the teeth.

These aren't in opposition. They need to keep attracting new pupils to keep paying staff.

If you love your job, life's to short to move somewhere you're not happy IMO. Pick up some examining, maybe? Or apply for an internal promotion?

Pensionworries · 15/02/2024 12:40

neverbeenskiing · 15/02/2024 10:51

None of the academies I've worked in have been remotely like you describe. I'm not denying your experience, I just think its important not to tar all academies with the same brush.

It’s imperative that I have good mental health for the sake of my own family, so I couldn’t really afford to have a job which aligned with my principals - that is, I think, the definition of privilege.

Anyone has the right to make choices that are good for their mental health. But do you really not see the irony in you choosing to work for a business that caters to the wealthiest in society, coming on here complaining about your pension and then implying that teachers working in state schools in areas with high levels of socioeconomic deprivation need to check their privilege?

We all make our choices, you don't need to justify yours to anyone and you definitely don't need to do these mental gymnastics to justify them to yourself.

I think you need to re-read my post because you seem to have miscomprehended my point. I am not saying anything of the sort.
I’m grateful for the reality check here but I am also allowed to feel undervalued, disappointed and worried at the same time.

OP posts:
Pensionworries · 15/02/2024 12:42

P.S. The resources in the independent sector are pretty bad to be honest. The IT equipment is so old and slow that it’s unusable and nearly all teachers are consistently spending their own money to buy essential classroom equipment.

OP posts:
Scab99 · 15/02/2024 12:45

@Barrenfieldoffucks Common misconception - the majority of independent school teachers are paid less than the state sector, but other benefits sort of make up for this (AKA reduced stress of having to meet government targets, more freedom in the classroom, smaller classes to teach, and if you have kids then discounted fees). I earn about £10k less than I would in the state sector, but I get 80% reduction on school fees which is why I stay, but it always surprises me that people assume we earn more than the state sector, we don't!

LovelyTheresa · 15/02/2024 12:53

Scab99 · 15/02/2024 12:45

@Barrenfieldoffucks Common misconception - the majority of independent school teachers are paid less than the state sector, but other benefits sort of make up for this (AKA reduced stress of having to meet government targets, more freedom in the classroom, smaller classes to teach, and if you have kids then discounted fees). I earn about £10k less than I would in the state sector, but I get 80% reduction on school fees which is why I stay, but it always surprises me that people assume we earn more than the state sector, we don't!

It also depends on the school, surely?