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Lying re car accident

117 replies

Crikeyalm · 10/02/2024 17:05

DP son has written off his car but so insurance doesn’t go up is not telling insurance company he has had accident , his dad is going to buying him a new car and they will just insure this . Aibu to thinking this is awful ?

OP posts:
DrinkFeckArseBrick · 10/02/2024 19:31

Are people aware that insurers make hardly any money on car insurance? And that if he has had an accident, it is a lot more likely he will have another accident. By not telling them, he is committing fraud to keep his insurance down the next time he renews his policy and ticks the 'no accidents' box. And ultimately passing the costs of his increased risk, to every other person punching car insurance.

WeeOrcadian · 10/02/2024 19:34

He crashed into a lamp post? It sounds like he wasn't paying attention

Though, technically, he didn't make a claim and therefore doesn't have to disclose it, just buying him a new car sounds like a disaster waiting to happen

AllEars112232 · 10/02/2024 19:38

And he crashed into a lamp post!! The council will be wanting him to pay for that! He's taking a huge risk nor coming forward to take responsibility for that!

ManchesterLu · 10/02/2024 19:44

If he's not claiming off his insurance it's fine. It's not lying. Get the new car then insure it.

BoredAndTiresome · 10/02/2024 19:44

Hereyoume · 10/02/2024 17:25

Not a problem OP, stop catastrophising.

The car won't be scrapped, just sold for parts. What would the kid make his life more expensive and difficult just so an Insurance company can make more money.

He just buys a new car, doesn't have to even mention whats happened to the old one.

This happens every day.

Very few people tell their insurance company about collisions when nobody else is involved.

OP is being silly. You can scrap a car for whatever reason.
It may gall you that he is not paying increased insurance payments, but you are being petty.

Its always the insurance company who wins, where most of us pay for years and years for nothing, why do you want to increase their damn profit ?
You just want to spite this lad.

MustBeNapTime · 10/02/2024 19:48

ManchesterLu · 10/02/2024 19:44

If he's not claiming off his insurance it's fine. It's not lying. Get the new car then insure it.

It's not fine. He hit a lampost. It's an offence to not report an accident with street furniture.

Crikeyalm · 10/02/2024 19:48

BoredAndTiresome · 10/02/2024 19:44

OP is being silly. You can scrap a car for whatever reason.
It may gall you that he is not paying increased insurance payments, but you are being petty.

Its always the insurance company who wins, where most of us pay for years and years for nothing, why do you want to increase their damn profit ?
You just want to spite this lad.

Edited

Hmm I am not his greatest fan , he was 90% drug driving .

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OooohAhhhh · 10/02/2024 19:49

Why did he crash into a lamp post? Instead of ignoring the situation his driving ability needs re evaluating. Next time he might crash into a car with a family in it? He needs more refresher lessons. Stop being irresponsible. Also who is going to pay for the lamp post? He left a crime scene, and no doubt there will be cctv footage somewhere anyway. He will probably crash this new car too unless he has more learner/refresher lessons.

DelilahsHaven · 10/02/2024 19:49

socialdilemmawhattodo · 10/02/2024 19:27

I dont agree with you at all - it is a condition of insurance. I have an 18 year old who has only very recently put their car into a tree ie no-one else involved. The claim for repair is being made through insurance, and we all know that will impact premiums. It was a close call as to write off or not.

It is highly likely that the teenager in the OP was not experienced enough to cope with the road condition(s) that caused them to have this accident - so severe it wrote the car off (be it weather, animals, other road users). Next time it could impact other drivers/passengers and this is why the insurance quite rightly need to know.

Sorry OP - I think your DP is a fucking tosspot. His child could kill someone - next time. Teenagers need to know there are consequences to actions. What consequences is that driver going to get?

But how will telling the insurance improve his driving? Surely the consequence is the loss of the vehicle, so hopefully the lesson is still learnt.

If its a condition of his policy, then I guess he must inform them, but it's seems a bit illogical if its just to create extra consequences to me.

MustBeNapTime · 10/02/2024 19:50

WeeOrcadian · 10/02/2024 19:34

He crashed into a lamp post? It sounds like he wasn't paying attention

Though, technically, he didn't make a claim and therefore doesn't have to disclose it, just buying him a new car sounds like a disaster waiting to happen

Techinically, actually, it's an offence to not report an accident with street furniture so technically, he DOES have to disclose it.

DelilahsHaven · 10/02/2024 19:52

Crikeyalm · 10/02/2024 17:34

He did crash into a lamppost , he’s not a kid he’s 25 .

In that case, he owes the council or highways for the damage to the lamppost, so perhaps he will need to claim on his insurance.

NotQuiteNorma · 10/02/2024 19:52

A while back someone posted on here because she crashed into traffic lights and drove home, then the police turned up at her house because she didn't report it. You might find you have greater things to worry about.

Konfetka · 10/02/2024 19:52

Crikeyalm · 10/02/2024 19:48

Hmm I am not his greatest fan , he was 90% drug driving .

Wow this just gets worse and worse

MustBeNapTime · 10/02/2024 19:54

BoredAndTiresome · 10/02/2024 19:44

OP is being silly. You can scrap a car for whatever reason.
It may gall you that he is not paying increased insurance payments, but you are being petty.

Its always the insurance company who wins, where most of us pay for years and years for nothing, why do you want to increase their damn profit ?
You just want to spite this lad.

Edited

@Crikeyalm is NOT being petty. Her son has committed an offence. YOUR insurance costs MORE because of people like the OP's son, how can you not understand that? If the lampost is damaged then the council claims off their insurance, which means YOUR premiums go up!!

LlynTegid · 10/02/2024 19:56

So have you decided what you would like to have as music at his funeral, should he continue to drive whilst under the influence of drugs and crash and die? Do you like to see young black boys murdered or those in Mexico and Columbia (for example) because of the drugs trade?

If you do not take active steps to ensure he is held responsible and preferably lose his licence, that is what you are effectively doing. Also covering up a motoring offence led to a former MP going to jail.

DelilahsHaven · 10/02/2024 19:57

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 10/02/2024 19:31

Are people aware that insurers make hardly any money on car insurance? And that if he has had an accident, it is a lot more likely he will have another accident. By not telling them, he is committing fraud to keep his insurance down the next time he renews his policy and ticks the 'no accidents' box. And ultimately passing the costs of his increased risk, to every other person punching car insurance.

How do they not make much money on car insurance?

imnotsickbutimnotwell · 10/02/2024 19:58

Crikeyalm · 10/02/2024 19:48

Hmm I am not his greatest fan , he was 90% drug driving .

This is so unbelievable now all this drip feeding. I don’t believe any of this is true.

DelilahsHaven · 10/02/2024 19:58

Crikeyalm · 10/02/2024 19:48

Hmm I am not his greatest fan , he was 90% drug driving .

Well in that case you should surely be reporting it to the police?

ShoePalaver · 10/02/2024 19:59

YuleDragon · 10/02/2024 18:43

Lets clear something up.

If you have a single vehicle accident, you are not legally obliged to report it to your insurance, and you can scrap the car and replace it. This is perfectly acceptable to do.

If he hit a lampost, he DOES need to report it to the police and his insurance. THAT is the issue here.

If he hadn't hit the lampost, i'd be telling you to mind your business because scrapping it and not reporting it is absolutely fine.

Surely crashing so hard a car isn't repairable will always involve damage to some other object? What could you crash into that wouldn't be damaged? And whatever you hit would belong to someone.

MustBeNapTime · 10/02/2024 19:59

DelilahsHaven · 10/02/2024 19:49

But how will telling the insurance improve his driving? Surely the consequence is the loss of the vehicle, so hopefully the lesson is still learnt.

If its a condition of his policy, then I guess he must inform them, but it's seems a bit illogical if its just to create extra consequences to me.

But daddy is buying him a new car, so he doesn't have to learn a lesson! If he has to pay higher premiums (assuming daddy doesn't pay them!), maybe he will learn that bad driving = money out of his pocket, then = lesson learnt!

It's the condition of EVERY policy that accident = informing your insurance.

Crikeyalm · 10/02/2024 20:02

He isn’t my son.

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imnotsickbutimnotwell · 10/02/2024 20:04

ManchesterLu · 10/02/2024 19:44

If he's not claiming off his insurance it's fine. It's not lying. Get the new car then insure it.

Completely wrong advice when there is damage to a third party.

He needs to report the accident to the police and his insurance. He should have called the police at the scene and not left.

He would be “lying” (committing fraud) next time he takes out insurance and does not state he has had an accident in the last x years. His insurance will then be revoked and he will not be able to get insurance at all.

OrangeFluff · 10/02/2024 20:04

I work in car insurance and we specifically ask “any accidents, claims or losses in the last 5 years, even if a claim wasn’t made”. So yes he would have to lie on his insurance going forward by not declaring it. It would go down as “notification only” unless the lamppost needed to be repaired.

imnotsickbutimnotwell · 10/02/2024 20:09

Crikeyalm · 10/02/2024 20:02

He isn’t my son.

If he’s been drug driving and crashed the car you should report him to the police yourself.

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