To lock my DD's bike to a telegraph pole outside our house?

[SummerDays2020]

We live in a mid terrace house with no front garden. I'm disabled and struggle to lift my DD's bike from the back garden to the front of the house in order for her to use it. She uses it regularly. So I decided to lock it to a telegraph pole that is between mine and my neighbours house. It's been there over a year.

When I left for the school run this afternoon neighbour was out putting a bag of rubbish near the telegraph pole. Not bin day. Anyway, she asked if it was my bike and I said yes. She then asked if I could move it as it had become a 'dumping ground' - I thought she might mean as there were a number of white sacks around the telegraph pole and told her 'it's only the bike that's mine not all the rubbish' she said 'I know - can you move it? It's a nightmare!'

My question is am I allowed to have it chained to the telegraph pole? What problem could it be causing her? (I couldn't speak longer as had to leave) I don't want to move it if possible as it means she will rarely be able to use it. I kind of feel if neighbour can 'dump' her car on the road my DD should be able to 'dump' her bike too! But I don't know the legalities which of course I would follow.

Just to add when I first did it I came out a few times when neighbours parked near it to ask if it was in their way and also spoke to BT engineers all who said it was no problem being there.

Very very few homes do not have any outside space at all or bike storage.

However, those that really have no space can use high hooks to hang in the hall.

I understand people saying not to leave it there as it could get stolen or damaged and shouldn't be outside, but my only option then is to get rid of it. It might not be ideal but surely it is better to have a bike in non ideal circumstances than to just not have one atall?!

I haven't said anything about her riding the bike on her own.

Sorry just realised you have no front garden but still it shouldn’t be on the road or pavement.

No, but would you get rid of a bike or put it where it can't be used just in case it might get stolen?!

If its reported to the council and is always there, they will likely consider it flytipped and remove it.

My neighbour used to lock his to a railing outside the house and someone obviously complained as the council cut the lock and took it away. He complained and got slapped with a fine for flytipping. 😂 Couldn't make it up, honestly.

But yeah as a permanent thing it needs to be on your property or you risk losing it.

DD can't bring it in and I can't afford a shed anyway.

Yes! 🤯

Same in my area. If councils don't do this they end up with bikes blocking pavements or abandoned.

So the risk is the neighbour reports it.

There is nowhere else. If I can't have it there then sadly it will probably be best to get rid of it could go in the back garden and get used occasionally. But that would be a shame. I think I need to check with the council.

Loads of people don't have outdoor space where I live and lock bikes outside. Ideally the council would install a communal bike shed on your road. However I can't see why locking it to a post would be a problem - it isn't going to block the pavement so I struggle to see why anyone would care.

If you get this, bung the workers a drink to put it outside the neighbours house 😂

You didn't read my OP! I don't have a front garden!

Can you tell me why I shouldn't so I can understand.

You live in a different world to me. I do not have a hall!

What did she say when you mentioned her dumping her rubbish bags? Sorry if I missed it.

Can you tell me why? At the end of the day it's on the road or pavement a lot when she's riding it or has it locked up somewhere. Doesn't feel very supportive of cycling, to me.

I accept areas are different but in my city houses that are converted have some form of outdoor space even if just a small yard, and new builds have bike storage.

There are some properties above shops etc. that have no storage, but they are a low percentage of the overall stock.

We live in Cambridge. Leave it where you lock it.

Also all 3 of our bikes have to be left outside whatever the weather. A carrier bag for the seat is useful! Can't believe 63% say unreasonable. They simply don't live in a world where everyone doesn't have a garden or garage!!

I live in the same world, in fact I don't have a hall myself

But OK then, high hooks somewhere in your house.

But you have outdoor space, so I would keep it there.

Is there something that could be installed on the front of your house to lock the bike to?

Whether it is allowed is down to local bylaws, what you cannot do is block the pavement preventing wheelchairs or double pushchairs to pass freely. If it's a really wide pavement and there's no bylaw preventing it then go ahead.the wider wheelchairs are 1m wide as was my double trailer I used for my dc once older, remember that they need wider than the minimum to avoid hitting the bike

@LightSwerve So you've never seen housing that looks like this?!?!?!?!?!

A good lock will prevent it getting stolen, loads of people lock their bikes up outside
Not true about a good chain will prevent it being stole. Axel grinders are used where I live. If I cycle in to town now I use my old rubbish bike tat no one wants and keep all my good bikes for when I know they are not going to be out of my sight.

Op why not hang it to an outside wall of your house. We have bike hooks that we use for our. Admittedly, they are on a wall in a garage but could be put on a side or back wall. Alternatively my friend has a bike rack on a pulley,
like the old fashioned pulleys used for siring washing inside.
Theres also a space saver stand that holds the bike upright so the bike doesn’t take up much room
Are any of those options any good?

It's obviously not always there so can't be considered fly tipping. But as I've said it doesn't seem to make sense to move it so she has a bike but can't use it vs. being able to use the bike with the risk of not being able to use it at some point.

I can't believe someone would complain about someone having their bike locked to railings outside their house. God forbid people cycle rather than drive cars all the time!

I see. I think I'll contact the council so I know one way or the other. If they can put a shed on the road even better!