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Friends affair

21 replies

sassy05 · 08/02/2024 21:50

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Bit of back story. I’ve been friends with someone for almost 30 years. We’re still really close but don’t see each other much. We do message at least weekly though. We have been there for each other for highs and lows over the years and we would drop everything if either one of us needed each other.

I’ve never been the biggest fan of her husband, he seemed very controlling from the start. She lost a lot of friends over the years and changed. She was always the glam friend, taking care of herself bubbly etc but within a matter of months she became a recluse, very quiet and just didn’t seem to care about her appearance anymore. Whilst he was still out with friends most weekends.

Anyway her husband messaged me asking about a birthday present for her. Asking did she see anything on our weekend in London or had she mentioned anything she would like. I replied with would need to have a think and would get back to him. Big issue here is I haven’t been to London with her since before covid and we haven’t seen each other since November.

I then got in contact with her and turns out she’s been having an affair with someone from work. She said things weren’t good at home and the new guy makes her feel young again and like her old self. She has been using me as the excuse to cover for her nights out /weekends away etc ( thought I would be the perfect cover as I don’t get on with him). She was planning on telling me face to face at dinner when we meet. She doesn’t want to end her marriage but also wants to feel like herself.

I hate cheaters/cheating. Especially after I was cheated on and found out 1 month before my wedding. She was the one to pull me out of my depression. She brought me back to life.

Now my big issue is what should I do. as much as I didn’t like her husband I have started over the years to be friendly. He’s not as bad as I thought.m and I’m not sure her change was just down to him (her comment at one point was I have a husband now why do I need to go out or make an effort). Maybe I was just blaming him for her change and it was all down to her. I also don’t think cheating is right in any circumstances. I feel he has a right to know.

On the other hand if what she says is true and my instincts were correct about her husband then I want her to be happy. Do I tell her that she needs to make a choice? I don’t want to be involved in her lies. She needs to think of something else.

My DH occasionally sees him around and when he plays taxi driver to me will often have a chat with her husband. So not only will I have to lie for her I also need to involve my DH so he knows to lie too and/or not mention that the weekend in question ‘when i was in London wit her’ I was actually in Edinburgh for a Xmas break with my husband. If I don’t tell him then he could slip up plus I hate secrets (especially one I’ve been dragged into).

I’m torn between covering for her and avoiding him (against everything I believe in but for the right reasons) or asking her tell her husband and making her choose. I think either way our friendship will have changed.

My husband says I need to see her face to face try to suss out her home situation and also see if the old her is truly back. As much as he agrees cheating isn't the answer he did point out that leaving a controlling relationship can be hard and she maybe needs to confidence she's getting to get the strength to leave.

Sorry for the rant but just need to know what others think without feelings involved.

I’m torn between my morals and my loyalty. Plus anger that she has involved me without my knowledge with no thought of how her lies could affect my life.

OP posts:
TheBeehive · 08/02/2024 22:01

id value the friendship over the affair, plus it could amout to you say she says etc then he could forgive her too

FacingDivorceButSad · 08/02/2024 22:20

Those are not your only two options. Option number 3 is you make it clear to her that she is not to involve you in her affair or marriage by using you as an excuse. Tell her you will not lie for her so if he asks about a London trip or whatever again you will say we haven't been to London. Tell her you are there for her as a friend and will support her leaving her marriage but you do not condone an affair and she is being very unfair and using you and dh to participate in something you disagree with

DisappearingGirl · 08/02/2024 22:22

I wonder if he asked you that as a roundabout way of checking if you were in London, i.e. he suspects something.

Bkjahshue · 08/02/2024 22:23

I’d tell her not to include you in the lies. I suspect the husband was trying to find out information by asking about your trip to London so is probably suspicious anyway

EC22 · 08/02/2024 22:24

You owe him nothing.
Id ask that she doesn’t involve you as it makes you uncomfortable but I wouldn’t tell him anything. I think he may be trying to suss you out with that text so he is maybe suspicious.

TheSnowyOwl · 08/02/2024 22:26

Just tell her not to involve you in the lies and then stay well out of it.

Dogknowsbest · 08/02/2024 22:26

She's deliberately making her life so much harder than it needs to be. I think you should have a word and say you don't want to have any part of it. I would also ask her what she expects to get out of it. When he finds out (which he will), it will all come crashing down anyway.

SecondHandFurniture · 08/02/2024 22:26

DisappearingGirl · 08/02/2024 22:22

I wonder if he asked you that as a roundabout way of checking if you were in London, i.e. he suspects something.

My first thought too.

This is incredibly risky of her. If someone was using me as cover and I didn't know, I would do my usual one photo on Instagram of my weekend away or day out, as I usually would. All the suspecting spouse would need to do is check my social media or ask my husband what he got up to while I was "in London".

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 08/02/2024 22:30

Well you see this is what cheaters do - drag other people in to their lies and deceit. I would tell him, I would always tell the innocent party unless I thought it would put ghe adulterer/ess at risk of violence.

Londonrach1 · 08/02/2024 22:32

Stay out of this...

MassageForLife · 08/02/2024 22:34

DisappearingGirl · 08/02/2024 22:22

I wonder if he asked you that as a roundabout way of checking if you were in London, i.e. he suspects something.

Yes, that was my thought too.

Honestly, if you wanted to ask a friend's partner about gift ideas, would you talk about it specifically in relation to a weekend away? I wouldn't.

BornIn78 · 08/02/2024 22:35

You assumed her husband is controlling, and yet she’s managing to flit off for weekends away to shag around behind his back.

Not that controlling after all.

She doesn’t want to end her marriage but also wants to feel like herself

So she wants to keep her husband in the dark and use you to cover for her cheating on him.

No, that would be a no from me.

SharonEllis · 08/02/2024 22:38

Dont tell him, but tell her not to use you if thats how you feel.

theduchessofspork · 08/02/2024 22:38

Bloody hell OP - she is your friend of 30 years. She has been crushed by her husband by your own description. It would appear quite likely he has been emotionally abusive, at least in the past.

Cheating is crap but it is not the only way to betray a marriage. It sounds like they are around even. The fact you were cheated on does not mean that this has a thing to do with you.

She she not be using you as cover and you can tell her that. You could also tell her she should consider leaving as this is a toxic way to live.

But that is it.

The fact that you are considering betraying your friend of 30 years to her very unpleasant sounding husband is extraordinary. Snap out of it.

5128gap · 08/02/2024 22:40

You're over relating to your friends husband because you were cheated on yourself. You are reframing a man you had previously decided was controlling and damaging to your friend, as not that bad really, because you've given him victim status in the scenario. In reality, the evidence was all in front of you that he was not good for your friend, and she has confirmed this, so regardless of your view on cheating, take care not to demonise her and elevate him when you can't possibly know from brief social contact if he's 'that bad' or not.
That said I agree you shouldn't be asked to collude with something against your morals, and it was very bad of your friend to drag you in without even asking you. But, this is your good friend who has been there for you and sounds like she's earned your continued friendship without overt judgement. If it were me I'd tell her not to use you as cover as it's too complex as you'd have to involve your DH. If it makes you uncomfortable to be party to it tell her not to talk about the affair to you.

Ktime · 08/02/2024 22:44

Sounds like she's in an abusive relationship. I wouldn't say anything to him but I'd ask her not to involve you again as you don't want to keep lying.

MariaLuna · 08/02/2024 22:46

Plus anger that she has involved me without my knowledge with no thought of how her lies could affect my life.

She's not your friend.

Involving you in your extra-marital affairs and your husband too? WTF. No good will come of this. Just walk away.

MariaLuna · 08/02/2024 22:47

Sorry, HER extra-marital affairs.

Tel12 · 08/02/2024 22:51

I would definitely keep out of this circus. You don't see her often so just make it not at all.

5128gap · 08/02/2024 22:52

MariaLuna · 08/02/2024 22:46

Plus anger that she has involved me without my knowledge with no thought of how her lies could affect my life.

She's not your friend.

Involving you in your extra-marital affairs and your husband too? WTF. No good will come of this. Just walk away.

She would drop anything for the OP and has been there for her for 30 years through the highs and lows. She pulled OP out of depression and brought her back to life. She absolutely is OPs friend. The fact that she is doing something with her own personal life that OP (and you) don't agree with, and has made a poor decision that has a small chance of making OP feel morally compromised doesn't change that.

momonpurpose · 09/02/2024 00:18

DisappearingGirl · 08/02/2024 22:22

I wonder if he asked you that as a roundabout way of checking if you were in London, i.e. he suspects something.

I was thinking this too

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