Jennifer Crumbley/Michegan Shooter's Mother

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KvotheTheBloodless · 07/02/2024 11:21

AIBU that Jennifer Crumbley being found guilty of her son's crimes is just another example of women always being blamed for the failures of others?

The gist of the prosecution's case is that she should have been able to predict that her son would shoot up the school, and is therefore to blame for the four tragic deaths.

How can we have arrived at a place where you can go to prison for failing to predict the future?!

It will be very interesting to see whether the boy's father is convicted too (separate trial) - I'd wager good money that he'll be found not guilty.

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Whatevs23 · 07/02/2024 15:35

This is a woman being blamed for the failures of others? Wow.

Ignoring her son's desperately obvious cries for help and providing him illegally with a gun? She got the outcome she deserved.

SophiaElise · 07/02/2024 15:58

Swizzlersandtwizzlers · 07/02/2024 15:09

White children suffer high rates of stabbing too so not sure why you’ve foolishly jumped to black kids & stabbings? And the fact is black kids ARE stopped and searched more anyway so I don’t even see the relevance. It’s not young black men displaying violent tendencies that are constantly presumed to be innocent. It’s white young men which was my point so it’s really not the “gotcha” you think it is. black young men are also as treated more harshly in the criminal justice system. I studied criminology and this is well evidenced. A white mother I worked with in my former role was appalled to see how her mixed race son was treated in comparison for non-violent crimes to her white sons violent crimes. She had never believed how systemic the racism was until she witnessed it like that and began to do more research on her own. Unfortunately a lot of racism in Britain is insidious and the most racist are the most vocal in denying it, and even get angry when you point out facts such as inconsistent treatment in the justice and education system. Funny that.

Also, I grew up in Glasgow and it was the stab capital for many years. Yet strangely enough the police there don’t harass the largely white youth up there to the same extent, nor did the media seek to demonise white youth or men or white communities at large for this problem. It was linked, quite rightly, to socio-economic and environmental conditions rather than just labelling the (large white) youth up there as a problem.

What they did do however, is eventually treat stabbing as a health issue and this model has proved more successful in reducing stabbings in Glasgow. Stop & search has relatively low rates of success in terms of they rarely find weapons AND its frequent use often damages community trust which then leads to further problems.

Perhaps a more holistic and compassion and effective approach such as the Scottish health model to stabbing could be deployed down here with kids of all races? Probably not though as long as Tories are in power.

So no, racism has not been shoe horned. I didn’t want to type it all out and post all the stats etc, but that article very cogently explained why white privilege and bias against minorities of colour is a plague to everyone and you’ve not managed to refute any of the very sensible and well argued points the author made.

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