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Is spitting on someone an assault

118 replies

spanieleyes22 · 07/02/2024 09:07

This happened to a friend in her kids school. She called a man out for coughing in her face and the man's wife verbally attacked her and spat on her . She called the police and is pressing charges. On one hand I think fair play to her it was horrible
Disgusting behavior but on the other hand I've never had to call
The police for anything. Maybe there's another way to
Resolve the argument. Or am I just naieve

OP posts:
WhatIsHeThinking · 07/02/2024 19:17

LutonBeds · 07/02/2024 10:15

I worked with a lot of ex-coppers and they said it would be. I have no idea 🤷‍♀️

Definitely not s18 assault!

spanieleyes22 · 07/02/2024 19:53

WhichIsItWendy · 07/02/2024 16:25

Yuck! So glad they're pursuing it.

Out of curiosity, what exactly did the man do? Was he standing next to your friend and coughed randomly and your friend perceived this to be on her?

Or did he literally turn to her face, close up, and cough?

My friend was there early for the kids performance. There were plenty of seats and space. This father came and sat right beside my friend and deliberately turned his head and coughed in her face. She said she could see right into his mouth. She said why did you do that and she told the assistant principal who witnessed what happened. They offered her a mask and asked him to leave . He did leave but his wife then found her after and verbally attacked her and that's when she spat on her

OP posts:
DistinguishedSocialCommenator · 07/02/2024 19:55

spanieleyes22 · 07/02/2024 14:08

Yes I'm 100 %supportive I was totally shocked and disgusted that that would happen in a safe space, the kids school. I'm glad she called the police. I'm just worried she will be further victimized and targeted as the woman who did it has a lot of friends and will make even more trouble. I don't see he they can stop her or her husband coming into the school cos their kid or kids go there

OP

You are saying your mate has already called the police. Therefore, what can you do now? IMO be supportive of your friend stick together and get others involved. If the parent/s that were assaulted put their mind to it, they could stop the parents from coming to school.

Taking everything at face value I hope other parents unite with the parents who were attacked and send the spitters to Coventry

I've seen bullies in action, f/ing and blinding at people, spitting at people and spitting, hitting, spitting at police until more police arrive on the scene and get taken down to the ground, they soon change their tune EG, "oh you are hurting me...cuffs are hurting me... I did nothing...why are you doing this..etc etc " and their mate/s who were part of it pretend to be good mates and apologising to police ad asking them to let their friend go. So lets get the police and CPS to send them to court, name and shame them in the hope it never happens again/

You state you are worried that things may get worse - they can but nasty, disgusting parasites like the spitters bank on that as they are bullies, until banged to rights

Do keep us updated, please.

DistinguishedSocialCommenator · 07/02/2024 19:58

Ethylred · 07/02/2024 14:13

OP are you the spitter?

That was completely uncessary as OP is clear in her post IE worried about a friend who was attacked

Cherrysoup · 07/02/2024 20:25

Assault police includes spitting. Arrested people will be made to wear a spit hood if they try this when in custody. Disgusting. It often includes a fine.

Bladwdoda · 08/02/2024 06:37

spanieleyes22 · 07/02/2024 19:53

My friend was there early for the kids performance. There were plenty of seats and space. This father came and sat right beside my friend and deliberately turned his head and coughed in her face. She said she could see right into his mouth. She said why did you do that and she told the assistant principal who witnessed what happened. They offered her a mask and asked him to leave . He did leave but his wife then found her after and verbally attacked her and that's when she spat on her

That is so awful.
I agree with others I hope the other parents rally round and support her. Stand with her in the playground and show support, can’t let horrible people like that intimidate others.

I feel for the school too. Why a hard situation to manage. I always wondered how they manage situations like that.

cerisepanther73 · 08/02/2024 09:46

@spanieleyes22

Basically i feel sorry for your friend to have had misfortune to come across a couple of Arseholes like that,

Coming across one Arsehole is bad enough let more,

cerisepanther73 · 08/02/2024 09:48

@Bladwdoda
I totally agree with your good post ..

DistinguishedSocialCommenator · 08/02/2024 12:45

Hello OP

What has your friend said? Are they following it through?

I know it can be a worry but best to report.

An important point. As the incident first started in the school and then escalated outside the gates, the school does have a responsibility.

Are the children in the same class?

Are other parents supportive like you of your friend?

DistinguishedSocialCommenator · 09/02/2024 10:04

Any updates, please?

DeeLusional · 09/02/2024 10:07

It's an assault, and dangerous as it can infect the victim with any diseases the perpetrator has.

Snippit · 09/02/2024 10:28

I hate spitting with a passion, dirty, dirty behaviour. I’m disgusted when professional footballers spit or snot on the pitch, absolutely vile.

redalex261 · 09/02/2024 10:40

YES this is assault! I actually feel it is much worse than pushing someone about or even hitting them, it is so disgusting and disrespectful. It’s designed to humiliate, it’s not an impulsive act of anger (wrong but sometimes understandable) its a conscious decision to do something demeaning and dismissive. The idea of someone spitting on me makes my blood boil - i am not violent but would not be able to stop myself from lunging at someone who spat on me through sheer rage.

Swizzlersandtwizzlers · 09/02/2024 11:11

I agree it is a revolting act. I remember a friend called me to tell me her male partner had hit her on the face and asked me to speak to him on the phone. When I did try and mediate he basically said “ so did your friend tell you how she spat in my face before that?”

I didn’t really know what to say so I just asked him to leave the flat for the night so they could cool off.

But privately I was thinking while what he had did was completely wrong and inexcusable, she shouldn’t have left out the an important detail of the story which is that she had badly provoked him. To be clear- still not justifying what he did.

HIVpos · 09/02/2024 12:35

cerisepanther73 · 07/02/2024 10:40

@spanieleyes22

Of course it bloody is, !

Just think 🤔 of the potential health disorders contained in spit such as HIV and Covid ect,

and the invasive nature of someone inflicting their personal bodily fluids onto you,

@cerisepanther73 HIV cannot be transmitted in spit/saliva - or coughing, kissing etc.
There are enzymes in saliva that disable any HIV present. This includes where someone might unknowingly have HIV and not to be on medication where they couldn’t pass it on anyway.
https://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/impossible-routes-hiv-transmission

Impossible routes of HIV transmission

Impossible routes of transmission include: coughing, sneezing and spitting; mosquito bites; sharing cutlery, plates or cups; kissing or hugging.

https://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/impossible-routes-hiv-transmission

spanieleyes22 · 09/02/2024 13:16

DistinguishedSocialCommenator · 08/02/2024 12:45

Hello OP

What has your friend said? Are they following it through?

I know it can be a worry but best to report.

An important point. As the incident first started in the school and then escalated outside the gates, the school does have a responsibility.

Are the children in the same class?

Are other parents supportive like you of your friend?

No it all took place inside the school
Sorry if I wasn't clear
Friend has to collect her kids from reception now which is good in a way but then again is isolating her. I don't think any other parents have spoke to her. Principal did have a chat and said other parent wanted to apologisd but my friend said no it was too little too late.

Personally I think she should
Think about a new school maybe in sept
Even tho I know I know I know it's not fair etc etc. I just feel she is vulnerable and isolated . She is determined tho and very admirable for standing up to the disgusting behaviour but I fear for her kids too. One is already being bullied .

OP posts:
DistinguishedSocialCommenator · 09/02/2024 14:28

spanieleyes22 · 09/02/2024 13:16

No it all took place inside the school
Sorry if I wasn't clear
Friend has to collect her kids from reception now which is good in a way but then again is isolating her. I don't think any other parents have spoke to her. Principal did have a chat and said other parent wanted to apologisd but my friend said no it was too little too late.

Personally I think she should
Think about a new school maybe in sept
Even tho I know I know I know it's not fair etc etc. I just feel she is vulnerable and isolated . She is determined tho and very admirable for standing up to the disgusting behaviour but I fear for her kids too. One is already being bullied .

Hello
Many thanks for coming back, sincerely appreciated.

I feel for your friend and everything you have posted here, so true

The school has let your mate down, seriously down IE, your friend is the victim but she is being punished by being isolated, made to feel different, sent to Coventry etc by asking her to collect from reception. It should be the spitter made to change their pick up the kids method

Any news on the police action?

Thanking you again.

CornishTiger · 10/02/2024 13:04

The other woman should be the one collecting from reception. Not your friend.

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