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Cancer inequality - Charles

281 replies

notknowledgeable · 06/02/2024 14:24

Obviously I know life is unfair, but even so I am stunned. Treatment starts the same week he is diagnosed? Most of us have to wait 2-4 months. And I don't expect he will be directed to food banks when the DWP repeatedly stuffs up his ESA claim either

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Flopsythebunny · 06/02/2024 15:24

TraitorsGate · 06/02/2024 14:45

This is a myth now. Private hospitals are taking on more and more Private patients as people don't want to wait, more nhs patients to help clear the backlog, the waiting rooms are full, you get 20mins for £250 if you're lucky, it's rare to get that quick treatment within days that used to happen when the NHS was half decent.

I've been waiting for 5 months now for a private operation. I every date that they've suggested (3 so far) have been dates that I told them right at the beginning that I couldn't do.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 06/02/2024 15:26

Two years ago, DM was diagnosed with a lymphoma on 23/12; saw oncology team on 24/12; treatment started on 28/12. All NHS. Treatment would have started sooner if it hadn't been for Christmas. She was 78, that probably helped.

Friend of mine (50s) needs a hysterectomy to remove cancer. Diagnosed last week, surgery next week.

My two recent experiences of high priority nhs cancer treatment are pretty good.

Dinoswearunderpants · 06/02/2024 15:30

Thesquaddogs · 06/02/2024 15:00

@Dinoswearunderpants
Bowel Cancer is more serious than prostate. They would treat that first. Chemo drugs are different according to the cancer . You can't have three different lots of chemo at the same time.

It was never mentioned during his treatment. They have zero compassion or understanding sometimes.

Lifestooshort71 · 06/02/2024 15:30

My NH breast cancer treatment was speedy and excellent, couldn't fault it as was my DH's renal cancer so no, OP, YABU.

Fulshaw · 06/02/2024 15:31

He’s THE KING. Of course he gets special
treatment. He’s a king, not from a fairy tale or film but an actual, real life king.

Whether thats a ridiculous concept or not is a whole other debate but for now it’s the reality.

Arrestedforit · 06/02/2024 15:37

CatchAButterfly · 06/02/2024 14:39

It must be a post code lottery issue. When I was diagnosed, I had surgery a week later. Whenever I’ve had a scare, I’ve had follow up scans within a week. Really surprised and also sorry that some people have to wait months.

This was my experience too.
The last time I had a concern (September 2023) I called the team I had been under on Monday and was seen Tuesday morning, all investigations completed by noon, and all clear by 1pm
Bog standard NHS hospital.

maggiecate · 06/02/2024 15:38

We realised something was up with my mum on a Monday, bloods showing tumour markers back on the Wednesday, ultrasound Thursday, admission to the bowel unit on Friday, MRI scan Saturday and removal of a tumour that was almost blocking her bowel on the Sunday. We were dead lucky the our GP knew her well and was suspicious that something was wrong but feet barely touched the ground.

Thesquaddogs · 06/02/2024 15:55

@Dinoswearunderpants
A statistic ofen quoted is that 98% of men with prostate cancer die of something else. It is generally not a killer. They are bound to treat bowel cancer first. One of the first things I did was go on the Cancer Forums for help and support and advice. They are brilliant.

Thesquaddogs · 06/02/2024 15:56

The key to beating cancer is early diagnosis. Never turn down a screening opportunity.

Thesquaddogs · 06/02/2024 15:57

My husband had a number of tests and biopsies around Christmas. Doctors were phoning with results late in the evenings so that patients got results quickly. NHS

CuteCillian · 06/02/2024 16:00

My sis (NHS) mammogram results on Thursday, lumpectomy 8 days later followed by chemotherapy starting 14 days later. This was November, she really couldn't have asked for better treatment.

Ametora · 06/02/2024 16:00

My DH went to the GP at 11am (he had struggled to get an appointment for 3 weeks but that is another issue)

GP phoned consultant. At hospital having tests by 2
Diagnosis given subject to biopsy results at 5pm (but pretty conclusive)
Admitted
Surgery within 48 hours
(discharged too soon and ended up being admitted twice but that is another issue)
Radio and Chemo followed.

All NHS.

Sooverthemill · 06/02/2024 16:03

In my experience once you get to the GP cancer diagnosis and treatment is pretty fast. Royal or not. It’s gold star service. Now, if the nhs could do the same for all other illnesses that would be excellent

Nottodaty · 06/02/2024 16:05

By the looks of it if he hadn’t been treated for the prostate issue they wouldn’t have found the cancer ..yet.

Who knows when it would have been picked up, how long etc they are all what ifs.

I know others my own Mum included receiving cancer treatment fairly swiftly after diagnosis - the delay for people using the NHS is more getting the diagnosis.

My friends Mum recently went to A&E for one thing and by accident found something far more serious she was admitted immediately and treated - it saved her life.

Flottie · 06/02/2024 16:07

Well yes but I’d say that’s just life. I imagine he’s getting private treatment rather than NHS so you could say the same about anyone who has access to private healthcare.

HowDoTheyGetThroughLife · 06/02/2024 16:07

PickledOnionsRodger · 06/02/2024 14:30

People in power don't have to exist within the structures they create for the rest of us. They operate outside the rules and processes they create for everyone else.

A close loved one of mine is still waiting for an official cancer diagnosis after 4 months of on-and-off testing. Let alone thinking about any kinds of treatment. She's going weeks without even hearing any results from the last test.

It's very unfair. If people who had influence had to go through the same processes etc. as their subjects, then I'm sure there would be much more impetus for them to make change.

This.

QueenBitch666 · 06/02/2024 16:10

MorrisZapp · 06/02/2024 14:29

I was under the impression that private healthcare can screen for cancer but can't normally treat it?

Private health care treats cancer including surgery chemotherapy and radiotherapy plus post operative needs

LadyWiddiothethird · 06/02/2024 16:11

Where I live treatment happens fast once Cancer is diagnosed.Two friends began treatment within a week recently.One breast cancer and one leukaemia.

Of course the King is going to get top notch care,silly to be annoyed about it.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 06/02/2024 16:13

PackingupTime · 06/02/2024 14:27

Tale as old as time. The haves and the have nots. Everyone should take life and critical illness cover (and/or income protection) from age 18 to mitigate risks. Or take out a decent private health policy. But appreciate not everyone does, but this plus saving mitigates some risk. One in 2 people will get cancer now so we have to take some responsibility to ourselves too. But anyway I digress.

I agree with this (not necessarily the health insurance part as that is very expensive).

But everyone who works should be forced to take out some sort of income protection if you have to go on long term sickness as a lot of people just don't realise how low benefits are if you have a mortgage (as opposed to renting).

If everyone took it out, it should be much cheaper than it is at the moment.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 06/02/2024 16:13

*in case you have to (not if you have to)

tennesseewhiskey1 · 06/02/2024 16:15

Not true - my father in law, sister in law and uncles treatment started straight away.

witscreek · 06/02/2024 16:16

My 80 year old Mum and Dad both got diagnosed very quickly and treated straight away on the NHS- both in the last year or so.
But it's not really surprising the King would get treatment quite speedily...

Newchapterbeckons · 06/02/2024 16:16

This thread is in such poor taste, someone regardless of title is very ill with cancer. It’s the most frightening time, and Kate and others are also incapacitated. Where is your empathy and compassion? Really shameful.

WeCouldLooseThis · 06/02/2024 16:18

I think members of parliament, people working for the civil services and the royal family should all volunteer to use state provided services for health and schooling.

Unfortunately, most have no morals and prefer to put themselves first.

I hope the King gets better soon and I don't wish him harm but I can't understand why so many people look up to him and fawn over him. It's really weird. Having a royal family should be something the uk did in the past. There is no place in the modern work for them.

Devilshands · 06/02/2024 16:18

Newchapterbeckons · 06/02/2024 16:16

This thread is in such poor taste, someone regardless of title is very ill with cancer. It’s the most frightening time, and Kate and others are also incapacitated. Where is your empathy and compassion? Really shameful.

Agree with this.

The poor kids (George, Charlotte, Louis) - mum sick, grandad has cancer. And all people on mumsnet are about is being spiteful.