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Housing advice please

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Xmummy2X · 05/02/2024 20:07

Good evening all

So i am after advice for housing issues im currently in privately rented property and i do love it but rent is very high partner was due to move in with me also but changed his mind at last minute and said couldn't risk being homeless etc so never moved in so not sure where we stand as still angry and couldn't back out else would been homeless etc long story which wont go into have 8 year old autistic child with severe anxiety doesn't leave the house and 18 year old girl full time college so had to receive benefits etc which agency doesn't know any of this been here year now can't work due to son disabilities and i have disabilities fibromyalgia etc and mental health much worse since lost mum in October

So whats looming over my head is any time i could be given section 21 or if rent goes up i really wouldn't manage i have cut right back don't own car or anything every night lie awake thinking the worst or what would happen and its making me ill does anyone know if be able to get on council list or if i would stand a chance please

Sorry for long post and thank you so much for reading this far if you did 🙏

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FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 06/02/2024 18:49

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 06/02/2024 18:38

@FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant *Thank you. Once the daughter finished college I assume this would change?

No, as it would then be based on household income, so if the daughter got a job she would have to contribute to the rent/council tax etc.

I meant the initial application to get on the housing list.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 06/02/2024 19:03

@FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant yes as she’s still a dependant child, in full time education.

You can put anyone on the application, sister, mother etc.

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 06/02/2024 19:18

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 06/02/2024 19:03

@FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant yes as she’s still a dependant child, in full time education.

You can put anyone on the application, sister, mother etc.

Thank you. My initial question was after she left education would she still be treated the same, or whether they'd be unconnected adults at that point. If so it was just to make sure the OP knew to apply asap before August, but seems it may not be a problem anyway.

caringcarer · 06/02/2024 19:49

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 06/02/2024 16:24

Would appreciate someone with more knowledge answering this, but the OP has an 18 year old daughter. As she's legally an adult would the council consider her in any council list application or would she have to apply for her own property/find her own housing?

May not be true but I remember reading something that adult children aren't taken into account on your application, so could OP be given a 2 bedroom property eventually, for her and her son only?

I'm pretty sure that is correct if DD is now 18 years old as she is now classed as an independent adult in her own right. Does your 8 year old son not go to school? If so you could get a job whilst he's at school.

Xmummy2X · 06/02/2024 20:16

Thank you all so so much 🙏🙏 i really appreciate it so much 🙏🙏

Sorry been absolutely devastated and had family round i had a disability assessment for my son from a lady never met ages ago she was in my home for half hour hour max and rang lste this afternoon said child going on child protection plan now im so upset with them and devastating they should go to ones that need it and do there job my kids are my world i would die for them so feel so sad

Housing is a issue but i will take each day as it comes and go on list even if not high as may come a time we will be

Thank you all so much 🌹🌹🙏🙏 may good things come your way for being so kind and understanding

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Xmummy2X · 06/02/2024 20:19

@caringcarer thank you but no not in any education due to needs and severe anxiety etc so not option and would have to be suitable job like at home job which are rare due to son and my needs & disabilities

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caringcarer · 06/02/2024 21:28

Xmummy2X · 06/02/2024 20:19

@caringcarer thank you but no not in any education due to needs and severe anxiety etc so not option and would have to be suitable job like at home job which are rare due to son and my needs & disabilities

That's so tough for you with never an hour even break from DS.

Xmummy2X · 06/02/2024 21:34

@caringcarer no but i would do it all again for my son anything and while im deep grieving still also feel like a failure i will fight till the end thank you

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HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 07/02/2024 03:01

Sorry been absolutely devastated and had family round i had a disability assessment for my son from a lady never met ages ago she was in my home for half hour hour max and rang lste this afternoon said child going on child protection plan now im so upset with them and devastating they should go to ones that need it and do there job my kids are my world i would die for them so feel so sad

The Child protection plan (ccp) is for the child, this is a good thing, your child at 8 years of age is not in any education setting or receiving any education at home, this is a legal requirement.

Surely you can see that the CCP IS going to a child who needs it, plans are put in place for all sorts of reasons , not just those who are being abused or mistreated.

What measures are you taking to ensure your child can attend school?

Xmummy2X · 07/02/2024 10:41

@HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend

Oh here we go child in need plan yes but not protection plan even my family aren't happy on about getting legal advice as we are treated appalling im one best mums out here and i try my best i home educated him myself then his anxiety got so bad he dipped since then tried everything its the services that have let us down and neglected us even son OT 2 years ago said this

Thank you though

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MamaAlwaysknowsbest · 07/02/2024 11:48

So what are you saying, instead of rehousing you properly and providing you with the correct education/mental health support for your child, they are putting you on a plan claiming you put your child at risk from being homeschooled? - wow.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 07/02/2024 12:55

I’m bowing out of this now as if a child is placed on a child protection plan , multiple agencies are involved (ex SW here), it’s not just a 30 min conversation with one individual, it’s a multi agency involvement, so you're definitely not telling the full story OP.

There is always 2 sides to every story and some parents can’t see black and white and believe everything should just be the way they want it.

I hope your son gets the help he needs and you also.

@mamaknowsbest the child isn’t being home schooled he is receiving no education at all.

MamaAlwaysknowsbest · 07/02/2024 13:01

OK, I am still curious. According to this plan, what happens to the lady and her son ? - Is she going to be properly housed and all her and her son's needs taken care of, or her son will be moved to an institution/foster care?

Xmummy2X · 07/02/2024 14:08

@HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend

You know nothing at all and people like you make me feel disgusted im telling the full story i don't need you to believe me or not hence why my family wants to get a lawyer they can and have seen everything and all the things that are promised for me and my son and never happen so please don't comment anymore as you do not have a clue

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Xmummy2X · 07/02/2024 14:14

@MamaAlwaysknowsbest over my dead body will my child be taken i will never ever let that happen that will torture him for thr rest of his life he will never recover he is all me his mum with me is his safe zone

What is boils down to is nhs and all services has given up on us cant be bothered don't know what to do and want him in full time education at mainstream school which isn't his best interest which concerns me so he and me are off everyones case thats what this has all boiled down to my family are looking into legal advice and lawyers if need be before anyone takes my son no way i am meditating and praying and protecting my son

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HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 07/02/2024 14:32

I’m. It replying to the OP, as I’ve said all I can in the matter.

@MamaAlwaysknowsbest The OP is properly housed, she is saying the thread of her LL serving her a S21/raising rent is causing her MH issues… she does not have a housing need.

As pointed out she can applying for housing and if the housing applicant is successful she will be placed on the housing bidding system however will be a lower band and not a priority to be rehoused.

In terms of her child, a multi agency meeting/conference will be held and a decision will be made on how to work best to support the family. (Normally involves the child’s teachers/school/ social worker/ police/ housing/family/health workers) who will all give their expertise, specialist knowledge on how to support the child and family moving forward.

OP is seeing this as a negative , it’s actually a positive as this is taking steps to get the help the child needs.

Xmummy2X · 07/02/2024 15:19

@HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend

Because he is not at risk at all he is not abused and certainly not neglected i neglect myself and put my son first i do everything for my son and always have and always will a child in need plan absolutely but your self and system needs to change as need to go after the ones that are being abused and neglected i understand he not in education everyone knows this its because he can not manage at all he cant even manage to leave house most days like i said you know nothing so in home tutor was meant to be arranged as no one could get him out but that hasn't happened nothing has i have done everything thats asked of me you know nothing about me just a bully that wants to pick on people dont judge or comment what you don't know

I have every right to go on housing list and will do just that even if low priority like you say it will definitely come in handy but i understand what you saying right now i have a roof over my head even if struggle or whatever which i am very grateful for so thank you for that

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MamaAlwaysknowsbest · 07/02/2024 15:26

Please, do not worry. I am all for mainstream education. They probably will arrange what is called - an ECHP or EHCP and just making life easier for you. Sorry, I did not want to scare that your child is going anywhere. I just did not understand the term, my appologies ....please, relax now

Hayley07 · 08/02/2024 22:21

Hi, firstly do not put yourself down! you do have a job! You’re a carer for your son! I have an autistic son also and a full time job would be easier! Anyways my son is 11 and I have just been given a 3 bed new build house and what really helped me more than anything was a report from an occupational therapist! She wrote down every reason why this place I’m in now wasn’t suitable for myself , partner and 2 children (they both have autism 11 and 3) , I had to pay private £200 for her to come and write the report but that is what got me a new home even though I already had one! My son doesn’t go out and in this apartment we don’t have a garden so that was vital for him which the occupational therapist noticed straight away! Listen they usually listen to the OT opinion and she found so many reasons that this place was dangerous (we have an open plan living room and kitchen),like I said they usually listen to them so try that and also have you put your name down with any housing associations? The council take mental health and children’s disability very seriously because if anything happens due to them not helping (which they are there for) I’m guessing it would look extremely bad on them! Also a little tip is when you get doctors letters or supporting documents make sure they write how moving home would impact your sons autism and your mental health! They don’t take notice of doctors letters unless your doctor or whoever can prove/write that staying where you are is having a detrimental effect on your sons mental health with him having autism and they need to state how a different home would help/ greatly improve yours and his life ! Good luck 🤞 xx

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