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Pip assessment today

26 replies

AluminiumandGold6 · 05/02/2024 20:06

Hi

Not sure what I want from the post.

But I had my pip review assessment today. I've been on it for 3 years on enhanced daily living and motor, after tribunal overturned DWP original decision.

Anyway I was up for review and had my assessment today. I was on with mental health.

Most of the questions today was all about physical symptoms/work and not really mental health related.

Im now sitting with chest pains and anxiety. I should hear within 8 weeks. I've waited a year for today's review. It's pushed me to insanity.

What am I going to do if they knock me back again because I can walk unaided and use the loo myself.

I told them I was suicidal daily, self harmed few times a week, hate going out.

Can anyone give me a pep talk or advice? I don't want to go for appeal if I am rejected.

Whole process is humiliating and not fit for purpose for mental health.

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Teeshirt · 05/02/2024 20:10

I’m not going to be able to help much. I’ve never got it. I applied and was turned down. I have stage 4, incurable, cancer. I just don’t know how anyone gets it.

sorrynotathome · 05/02/2024 20:11

Presumably when you say mental health you mean mental illness?

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AluminiumandGold6 · 05/02/2024 20:13

They really are deplorable. I'm so sorry to hear that. How are you now?

Yes depression, learning disabilities and waiting for autism assessment.

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Cherrysherbet · 05/02/2024 20:13

Sorry you’re going through this op. You’re absolutely right, the questions are not relevant for claims related to mental health conditions. It’s so unfair to do this to people. Cruel in fact.

I really hope you get the outcome you so obviously need.

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AluminiumandGold6 · 05/02/2024 20:13

Thank you very much. It means the world to me.

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CatPancake · 05/02/2024 20:14

Definitely ask for a mandatory reconsideration- you don’t need to do anything accept phone and request it.

you should also appeal. They expect to bully you out of it. Just remember this is the dance you need to do.

having said that I’ve heard of a number of people recently getting pip on first attempt, surprisingly. The cynic in me wonders if they are facing extra scrutiny on their processes at the moment.

a huge number of rejections are overturned on appeal

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AluminiumandGold6 · 05/02/2024 20:16

Yes mine was literally within 5 minutes of the tribunal starting. I'm not even exaggerating either. I was totally floored.

It's hard not to be angry at what they put us all through. Plus the people asking the questions don't seem to be from MH background.

I had an OT last time.

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PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2024 20:22

Teeshirt · 05/02/2024 20:10

I’m not going to be able to help much. I’ve never got it. I applied and was turned down. I have stage 4, incurable, cancer. I just don’t know how anyone gets it.

@Teeshirt I'm so sorry – both about the cancer and the behaviour of the DWP.

You probably already know this, but Macmillan have welfare rights advisers who may be able to help you challenge the decision, if you have the energy.

As if you didn't have enough to deal with right now.Flowers

PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2024 20:23

@AluminiumandGold6 , wishing you all the best for a good outcome.

Elvis1956 · 05/02/2024 20:28

PIP works on a tick box points system. You mh will result in physical issues, like being unable to leave the house, deal with cooking etc. Which is why they ask those questions.

You may need to appeal, but I listen to radio 4 and they often cover pip and the other disability benefits and they always report that a huge % get over turned at appeal. I also worked for someone who sat on the appeals board and they confirmed that as being true. They often awarded it without even seeing the person, just by 're looking at the paperwork.

The citizens advice bureau is often a very good place to get help with pip

RadioGaGaRadioGooGoo · 05/02/2024 20:32

If it helps I had mine on the Wednesday and already had my decision by the following Friday so only waited just over a week not the 8 week like they said.

Teeshirt · 05/02/2024 20:40

PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2024 20:22

@Teeshirt I'm so sorry – both about the cancer and the behaviour of the DWP.

You probably already know this, but Macmillan have welfare rights advisers who may be able to help you challenge the decision, if you have the energy.

As if you didn't have enough to deal with right now.Flowers

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Yes, thank you. I know about them. But I’m not ill enough, apparently - ironically. I have to wait until I deteriorate more.

Janie1962 · 05/02/2024 20:44

My daughter had a telephone assessment for PIP on MH issues two weeks ago - last Friday she got a text message to say her award had been granted, but she has to wait for the letter which will tell her how much; so it was around 10 working days for her (first time applicant).

Please look after yourself, and if you find that your assessment hasn't gone well there really is lots of help out there, although I know it's hard to ask sometimes.

Good luck, and fingers crossed for you. Sending hugs xx

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AluminiumandGold6 · 05/02/2024 20:45

Tee-shirt- I'm sorry I'm unsure how to reply directly to messages with the persons name and quote in. I'm so sorry to hear this. Have you appealed? Is stage 4 terminal? Its a disgrace. Why would should your moments be spent on making idiots take care of the most vulnerable.

I think it's disgusting that disabled people only got the 150 cost of living.

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AluminiumandGold6 · 05/02/2024 20:45

Radiogaga - did you get it? Do you mind me asking?

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Original poster
AluminiumandGold6 · 05/02/2024 20:46

Thank you Janie. I hope your daughter is OK and can heal xxx

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FUPAgirl · 05/02/2024 20:47

You sound very unwell OP. If you get turned down, it's highly likely you will succeed on appeal. Though it's shitty that the system works that way. Please take care of yourself Flowers

RadioGaGaRadioGooGoo · 05/02/2024 20:49

AluminiumandGold6 · 05/02/2024 20:45

Radiogaga - did you get it? Do you mind me asking?

Yes, I was offered standard rate for both care and mobility. (Mine isn't mental health related)

Teeshirt · 05/02/2024 20:54

AluminiumandGold6 · 05/02/2024 20:45

Tee-shirt- I'm sorry I'm unsure how to reply directly to messages with the persons name and quote in. I'm so sorry to hear this. Have you appealed? Is stage 4 terminal? Its a disgrace. Why would should your moments be spent on making idiots take care of the most vulnerable.

I think it's disgusting that disabled people only got the 150 cost of living.

Yes, ultimately terminal, but not technically at the moment. Terminal means not expected to live six months. I don’t get any cost of living payments either, or any benefits at all.

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AluminiumandGold6 · 05/02/2024 20:56

Thank you. I appreciate everyone's reply

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mrsbyers · 05/02/2024 20:56

You really must appeal if they turn you down initially but let’s hope it doesn’t get to that !

I have my tribunal tomorrow , almost a year since they stripped every point from me

Hotpinkangel19 · 05/02/2024 21:02

Good luck OP. I have no faith in them though. My husband had his leg ripped off above the knee, PTSD from the accident, and still got declined mobility. With 1 leg!!

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AluminiumandGold6 · 05/02/2024 23:19

Tee-shirt- that must be a punch to your gut, actually enraging them turning you down. The whole system is joke.

I'm so sorry you're going through this it's so unfair

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HelpIcantfindaname · 05/02/2024 23:26

@Teeshirt when I got my Stage 4 diagnosis the financial lady at Maggies did my application, I went through questions with her. I never had to speak to anyone at the DWP. I got the full award & she also sorted my Blue badge for me.

She was off ill when I needed to apply for ESA so I went to Macmillan. The lady there completed my application for me.

If there's a Maggies in your area please ask for help. Or ask Macmillan. At Stage 4 you should definitely be getting PIP.

Overthebow · 05/02/2024 23:33

I hope you get it op. Did you give evidence from the doctors to support you application, or have it ready for an appeal? I imagine you’d need that to back up mental illness and symptoms.