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To feel like it's one crisis after another.

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Outofideas79 · 05/02/2024 19:28

So I was born in the 80s. Since I became an adult it just feels like its one disaster after another. War with Afghanistan, war with Iraq, the financial crisis, austerity (I've not actually worked properly in a time when we weren't in austerity), public sector pay freezes, Brexit, Covid, war with Russia (we're there in all but name), crisis in national health, crisis in education (my colleagues daughter has been told to stay at home for a couple of days this week due to staff shortages), the country in financial crisis generally, inflation, high interest rates, cost of living crisis, dodgy housing market, and now to top off all that off, rapidly and frankly frighteningly increasing tensions in the middle east which I think we are now embroiled in whether we like it (or can afford it) or not.

It seems one thing after another and with no end in site. A general election this year, but how much can any new government change, impending conflict of some kind looking to undo any progress made with reducing the rate of inflation. Its all rather exhausting. Or is that just me 🤣 to put it in some context I work in the public sector, so budget cuts are at the forefront of my mind ATM.

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Outofideas79 · 05/02/2024 19:54

So what we are saying quite collectively is YES life is just going from one crisis to another, before there are many more people who misread my question and think I'm demeaning the struggles of other generations. Which quite frankly was not the question, or my point.

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Damnloginpopup · 05/02/2024 19:55

Outofideas79 · 05/02/2024 19:52

@Damnloginpopup I think I'm just a rookie 🤣

It's funny really. I never realised just how historic everything actually is.

Was.

Will be - that's the key.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 05/02/2024 19:55

Outofideas79 · 05/02/2024 19:50

@TheYearOfSmallThings I'm not sure you have any understanding of my knowledge base so please don't be so condescending.

Edited

Well you said "perhaps we are heading worryingly rapidly to ww3." So I do actually know that you are not keeping things in perspective, which would be easier if you had the understanding that current events are just the way the world turns.

However I notice you are mainly here to make bleak statements and then pick fights, so I will leave you to it.

Reggiebo · 05/02/2024 19:57

It's always gone from crisis to crisis.

Damnloginpopup · 05/02/2024 19:58

But yeah, you're right..it IS one crisis after another. It just isn't any different. That's the norm.

ClownFishFin · 05/02/2024 19:58

Outofideas79 · 05/02/2024 19:43

And @ClownFishFin perhaps we are heading worryingly rapidly to ww3. I know a little more about history and current affairs then you are giving me credit for.

I was being genuine, I didn't mean to be condescending. It is good if you know a bit about history, because you have the knowledge to effectively answer your own question.

You may feel like we are moving from one disaster to another since you became an adult, but the reality is humanity has been in a state of crisis since we started.

mynameiscalypso · 05/02/2024 20:01

It really has pretty much always been like this. Maybe our awareness is more now but human history is just a history of crises. What you don't tend to notice (or get recorded) is all the perfectly pleasant every day bits of life.

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 05/02/2024 20:01

I can understand why people feel this way. I then remind myself that my Grandparents lived through The Great War, the Great Depression, the Spanish flu pandemic, WW2, the Cold War and rationing.

2500 years ago, the Greek poet, Sophocles wrote of mankind,

”Only from death can he find no rescue,
But from desperate plagues he has plotted his escape.”

Reggiebo · 05/02/2024 20:01

I'm with you clown..the older you get the more you see the crisis just repeat itself.

DyslexicPoster · 05/02/2024 20:08

I just think adulting sucks.

When ever I think this is shit, I'm glad I'm not living through the first or second world war or in any war zone right now. Your home being bombed. People you love and know dying horrifically daily. Honestly it could get so much much shitter than this.

Life is pretty short. To short to live in fear. Humans are evil. So it ever was. Something in us will never ever let us live as one for the good of our planet. For every Saint there's a hundred arseholes I'm sure.

I don't think even in 200 years it will be any different. I don't think it was 200 years ago.

5pot6pot7potmore · 05/02/2024 20:09

I think the late eighties and nineties were a time of relative peace and prosperity, and so for Millennials the incessant crises since 9/11 does make us feel as though the world has got worse in many ways.

ClownFishFin · 05/02/2024 20:11

5pot6pot7potmore · 05/02/2024 20:09

I think the late eighties and nineties were a time of relative peace and prosperity, and so for Millennials the incessant crises since 9/11 does make us feel as though the world has got worse in many ways.

Not really there were lots of wars in the 80s and 90s.

Damnloginpopup · 05/02/2024 20:13

Yeah, but there was an air of optimism in the west once that wall came down at the end of 89.

Boom! Saddam!

ClownFishFin · 05/02/2024 20:14

Damnloginpopup · 05/02/2024 20:13

Yeah, but there was an air of optimism in the west once that wall came down at the end of 89.

Boom! Saddam!

Until the Gulf War in 1990...

Outofideas79 · 05/02/2024 20:16

@ClownFishFin and I wasn't being unreasonably or groundless pessimistic. This is an interesting read and just scrapes the surface of the current geopolitical situation https://news.sky.com/story/are-we-heading-for-world-war-three-experts-weigh-up-whether-russia-china-and-the-middle-east-could-lead-us-into-apocalyptic-conflict-13056131

Are we heading for World War Three? Experts give their verdicts

The defence secretary has warned we are moving to a "pre-war world", top military brass are talking about conscription and tensions in the Middle East show no signs of abating. So are we on the cusp of another World War? Sky News asks experts to weigh...

https://news.sky.com/story/are-we-heading-for-world-war-three-experts-weigh-up-whether-russia-china-and-the-middle-east-could-lead-us-into-apocalyptic-conflict-13056131

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ClownFishFin · 05/02/2024 20:21

Outofideas79 · 05/02/2024 20:16

@ClownFishFin and I wasn't being unreasonably or groundless pessimistic. This is an interesting read and just scrapes the surface of the current geopolitical situation https://news.sky.com/story/are-we-heading-for-world-war-three-experts-weigh-up-whether-russia-china-and-the-middle-east-could-lead-us-into-apocalyptic-conflict-13056131

I wouldn't rely on Sky News to wipe my arse with, so I wouldn't find an article from them all that concerning. Nuclear bombs will prevent WW3 as nobody can win in the case of nuclear war.

Einstein famously said: "I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones"

Zanatdy · 05/02/2024 20:22

It’s just life isn’t it, there’s always going to be something

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 05/02/2024 20:22

Maybe I'm asking if this is just the norm?

Of course it's the norm! That's what human existence is like, because that's what humans are like. Just try not to think too much about the things that don't directly affect you and/or you can't do anything about!

itsmyp4rty · 05/02/2024 20:22

The 90's was the best decade. Not saying it was perfect of course but the best there's been IMO.

Herdinggoats · 05/02/2024 20:24

We go though it, we get through it, it repeats itself. You don’t have it harder than a previous generation, you won’t have it harder than the next generation

Outofideas79 · 05/02/2024 20:25

So you're saying that each of the points made are entirely groundless? For clarification? And we can look at other sources if you wish.

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Knitgoodwoman · 05/02/2024 20:29

I don't know, I think women have more rights now than in the 80s, as do the disabled, gay people and ethnic minorities.

When I was a kid we were poor, we could never afford take aways, or holidays... now all of my friends can... even those in fairly average jobs. It was unusual for a family to go to Disney for example. Now it's not unusual.

Stay away from the media Op, and focus on what you can control, and any positives you can focus on.

BenjaminBunnyRabbit · 05/02/2024 20:31

I'm in my mid 50s and the only reprieve in my lifetime seemed to be the 90s for a few years.

My parents were born just before the war and saw lots of tough times during their lifetimes. People lived with rationing for a very long time after the second world war.

What's happening now isn't unique or unusual.

whatdidshedotogetahillnamedafterher · 05/02/2024 20:32

I get you Op and understand your point totally. Its like ..what next?How much more can we cope with? or even here we go again. It is the stability I miss and the misery surrounding us is bound to have an effect. I think especially here in the UK a lot worse is to come sadly and I reckon by the summer or autumn this year the whole lot is going to errupt. People seem so angry these days and it is indeed a huge sense of hopelessness that will not be kept down much longer.There is huge injustice about and it will boil over.

ChocAuVin · 05/02/2024 20:32

It’s life, innit. Beam yourself back however many hundred years and it would be the same. Lurching from catastrophe to crisis with a few lovely summers in between.

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