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To not want my children to be in a pre war generation

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decionsdecisions62 · 04/02/2024 18:02

news.sky.com/story/amp/are-we-heading-for-world-war-three-experts-weigh-up-whether-russia-china-and-the-middle-east-could-lead-us-into-apocalyptic-conflict-13056131

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Tattletwat · 04/02/2024 20:20

asrarpolar · 04/02/2024 20:15

And there have been many times since the second world war when we have looked as if we are on the brink of another world war. Thankfully it has not happened yet.

Yep the op misses many times the West came to another war, Cuban missle crisis,.operation able archer and many more.

We have been o brink of war for decades.

There is no point in worrying as if your children were going to be conscripted it would have to be ear on your door sort of stuff, and most wars these days are fought in foreign lands as proxy wars.

eatsleepfarmrepeat · 04/02/2024 20:27

decionsdecisions62 · 04/02/2024 18:45

Well there may not be much but I sure as hell would rather end up in the camp of those people that had given some thought to it rather than the stick your head in the ground camp and hope for the best.

It’s a different type of warfare now though - it won’t be man on man fighting in the trenches. It will be nuked or blown up, no bunker in the garden a equipped with a rations cupboard will help, unless you’re preparing for a post apocalypse world in which case you’ll need a few more tins hon.

Livelovebehappy · 04/02/2024 20:51

My daughter has just announced her pregnancy, and my delight was tinged with a bit of sadness, because for the first time in my life, I really feel it’s not going to a good world to live in for their generation. I think those that have lived through the 50’s, 60’s, 70s, 80’s, 90’s have had the best care free years, but I do feel worried for future generations.

GelatoPistacchio · 04/02/2024 20:52

betterangels · 04/02/2024 19:09

I grew up in the aftermath of the cold war and was a uni student when 9/11 happened. I've lived with a threat of war all my life. Notably, not in a war zone. There's a hell of a difference. The threat of war, IMO, sadly comes with living in the world. I'd be more worried about the impact of the climate emergency if I had children. Naturally, we can worry about several things at once...

A million times this. It makes more sense to panic prep for the climate emergency that we are definitely facing (though whether you can 'prep' for it is a question for another thread).

War is still a hypothetical and we are not close to the dark days of the cold war where it really looked like the end was coming.

It's not your fault OP. Humans are shit at assessing risk. War is a more novel fear so your anxious brain is going into overdrive. The more pressing and realistic danger we all face doesn't appear to have the same urgency to your brain, but logically it makes more sense to prep for that if you are going to prep for anything.

Tattletwat · 04/02/2024 21:00

People who think the climate emergency are new are cute, they were saying lots of things back in the 80s ,90s which never happened and still haven't.

Control what you have now dont worry about other stuff is my advice.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 04/02/2024 21:10

Well there may not be much but I sure as hell would rather end up in the camp of those people that had given some thought to it rather than the stick your head in the ground camp and hope for the best.

If you can't do anything to prepare, what's the point? Hoping for the best and living a happy life while you can is far better than looking back later and wishing you had enjoyed what you had rather than wallowing in fretting about some future doom you can't prevent.

Buckarood · 04/02/2024 21:15

There's literally no point worrying about it beyond voting when the time comes for the party you have most trust to manage the risk. The world is a precarious place, it always has been; looking at wider history it's still one of the most stable periods- just arguably not as secure as the decades between WW2 and 9/11 (even though of course there was strife and some countries had devastating conflicts).

To be honest I see death a lot at work, tomorrow is never guaranteed anyway. Sounds cheesy I know but honestly just try to make the most of each day- this is tricky when the stress of like is overwhelming and with the drudgery of work etc; but wasting time worrying is pointless. It doesn't achieve anything, there's not really anything to prepare.

BMW6 · 04/02/2024 21:26

Well unless you've got a nuclear shelter, the ability to scrub your air supply and about 3 years supplies you're as fucked as someone who lives in Central London and has an extra tin of beans!

I'm also curious how you can be 57 and only now concerned about the prospect of WW3???

Userxyd · 04/02/2024 21:48

It does seem closer than ever now though- the doomsday clock has never been closer for example apparently.
I just dont get what motivates these countries to start wars- was Putin literally bored and bloodthirsty? Does no one around him at work or at home have the balls to say - just leave it now?
His own country don't agree with the war. He's losing popularity all the time in Russia and even his closest allies children have been killed as a result. Why does no one stop these idiots?
Is it just like Nazi Germany again with people scared to disagree else they'll be killed?
Hamas are losing popularity in Gaza and obviously in Iran there are protests against the brutal govt all the time despite the real threat of death.
Why can't these leaders decide to make their countries safe, healthy, fair, prosperous? Why do they choose to run them to the ground and leave their people desperate and in fear when they could make life so much better? Just for the power kick? Or actual nutcases?
Such a sad state of humanity.

Buckarood · 04/02/2024 22:55

It only seems closer now as we are bombarded with it being used by politicians to try and control their narrative, the news is available 24/7 and social media amplifies things. There are plenty of times in the past few decades where things have been extremely precarious, but ignorance is bliss as they say. There have been plenty of awful conflicts globally that have led to many innocent civilians dying; its natural but also a bit sad I guess people are fearing something that probably won't happen when people have and are living (or sadly not) through it and people don't care. I don't mean the recent conflicts either.

spicedlemonpie · 04/02/2024 23:01

If war happens it happens doubt it will but oh well if it does.
Tbh i really dont care.
It may wake some of this generation of ungrateful entitled people up.

PerfectTravelTote · 04/02/2024 23:09

I'm in my 50's and, that I can remember, this is the 4th time in my lifetime that there has been talk of ww3. At least this time there isn't talk of nuclear war. That was big news in the 80's.

There's always something...

Nagado · 04/02/2024 23:12

decionsdecisions62 · 04/02/2024 18:45

Well there may not be much but I sure as hell would rather end up in the camp of those people that had given some thought to it rather than the stick your head in the ground camp and hope for the best.

Why? What is giving some thought to it going to do? You can’t change the course of events. You can’t prepare for it. If it happens, we’re all buggered. All you can do is try to preserve your mental health by not obsessing over it and enjoy your time with your loved ones.

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