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How would you respond to this parent?

28 replies

Tsc2011 · 04/02/2024 11:04

I posted a couple months ago on the parenting forum and people were really helpful and supportive.

My 8 year old DD attends a very small primary school. She had a close group of friends (I wasn’t totally keen on them after witnessing some of their behaviour) and she was pretty happy until last Jan when she told them we were considering moving. For a year they ganged up on her leading to physical bullying (and she’s very small for her age so was terrified). We spoke to the school a few times and pushed them to speak to one of the children’s parents ( the school are reluctant to acknowledge bullying) but we were called in a few months ago because a teacher had witnessed some of it and had to step in. They didn’t speak to the children’s parents, just us. My partner spoke to one of the girls dads and told him what had been going on. He said he was concerned with her behaviour but then did nothing. For context, it wouldn’t be exaggerating to say one of the mothers worships her daughter. She’s told me before that she suspects her daughter is a bully but if anyone tells her this she denies it all and goes in to full DARVO mode, going on about distraught her daughter would be to be accused of that (even accusing my child of “bitchiness” and “mind games” in the past after asking me directly if her child was bullying my DD- it’s bizarre).
Anyway, the mum of one of the other girls messaged me before Xmas to say my DD had destroyed the spirit of Christmas by discussing with her DD whether FC was real (note my DD wasn’t sure). She sent me a monologue she insisted I should read to my DD about learning to “be kind”! Her daughter has repeatedly told mine she wished she was dead or she should kill herself so this was taking the biscuit. I said I would discuss it with her when she got home to get her side of the story.
in the meantime she went to the class chat group and posted that a child has ruined Christmas and instructed the parent (me) of their responsibilities teaching their child to be kind. The other mother then chimed in about how awful it all was and reminded “the parent” of their responsibilities. It turned they’d been discussing this together the night before and had decided to do this.
I decided to take control and informed the group it was me and my child they were discussing, it was inappropriate to discuss it on a parent group after I had already confirmed I would deal with it. I also said my child had been bullied for the last year (I didn’t say by who) and that I’m sure we were all doing our best to teach kindness. Obviously mortified that I’d done this they both ranted about me calling their daughters bullies and left the group. One even went so far as to say I was bullying them and their DD by doing this. This one blocked me on social media which means I’m now also blocked from PTA posts on FB (yes, she’s PTA!). We were told by the dad that he’s now addressed it with his child and the bullying has died down, so well worth the ostracising I’ve been experiencing (including lots of glaring at me at the school gate). Note other parents came to me afterwards to say their kids have also been bullied by them (one was threatened with being stabbed!) and they were disgusted by these parents behaviour.

I would have thought they would stay away from my kids after this (online bullying of a child) but a number of times I’ve seen them trying to interact with them. My DD has now received a party invite (a drop off) to one of these children’s birthdays. This would mean leaving her in that parent’s care for the afternoon. My instinct is to say no. Is that unreasonable or just sensible? To make matters worse my child didn’t tell me about the invite she received a month ago so this mum has just messaged me chasing me for an answer. How would you respond?

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JustJoinedRightNow · 04/02/2024 11:12

I would ignore her text and there is no way in hell my daughter would be setting foot there without supervision from me. And even then we wouldn't go. They can get to fuck!

newname1234456 · 04/02/2024 11:12

why did you let the bullying go on for a year and not move your child

Facetube · 04/02/2024 11:13

I wouldn't let me dd go to a bully's party, so would politely decline, unless dd is desperate to go, in which case I'd go but stay rather than drop-off.

I think I wouldn't want to be on any of the school chats / social media either. It seems to be a bit toxic in this case. I'm not on any of my dcs' school social media and I've never missed anything! I just read the emails from school. It was mainly people asking when term started or saying highly intelligent things likr "how come I'm not allowed to park illegally outside school? Where am I supposed to park then?", so really feel I'm not missing anything!

Facetube · 04/02/2024 11:13

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Danikm151 · 04/02/2024 11:16

If your child didn’t show you the invite, it’s most likely that she doesn’t want to go.

sorry, we have plans that day. Hope you have a good time.

Scarletttulips · 04/02/2024 11:16

Does your DD want to go?

If not just tell her you planned X that afternoon so she can’t go.

Justkeepingplatesspinning · 04/02/2024 11:18

I'm sorry you and your child have had such a rotten time of it.
Your child doesn't want to go, they didn't hand over the invite for a reason.
The classmates and their parents sound awful. I'd be limiting my time with them to absolutely essential contact only. In school. With witnesses.

theduchessofspork · 04/02/2024 11:18

Does your daughter want to go? If she does it’s just an afternoon so no reason not to let her, unless you think it will trigger bullying again or encourage her to get close to this kid, in which case just explain you only just got it and have other plans.

The bullying sounds awful, although I’m not sure you helped by turning the Father Christmas nonsense into a drama.

theduchessofspork · 04/02/2024 11:19

newname1234456 · 04/02/2024 11:12

why did you let the bullying go on for a year and not move your child

Presumably because it’s hard to get a place at other good schools.

Tsc2011 · 04/02/2024 11:20

We didn’t “let” the bullying go on for a year, we were dealing with it. We were also helping our DD learn some resiliency and helping her develop strategies for dealing with arseholes (who I’m sure she will meet many of in her lifetime and won’t be able to run away from all of them) and it’s worked. She’s a lot more confident about standing up for herself and she’s better at choosing friends.

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EIIaJ · 04/02/2024 12:26

I'd reply and say are you actually joking thinking she's getting dropped off to be in your care after what's happened. I wouldn't be making excuses up saying we have plans.

AppleKatie · 04/02/2024 12:30

I would go the polite excuse route. She’s not going, everyone sane would understand why but no point in starting another row with the mum and if you say something she perceives to be rude she’ll likely post it on Facebook or the parents WhatsApp group

The80sThe80s · 04/02/2024 12:41

Thank you for the invite. X can’t make it it due to other plans but hope the party goes well.

FUPAgirl · 04/02/2024 12:48

That was a very long post that all led to 'what do I do about party dd doesn't want to go to'

Obviously you decline the invite! I would also speak to dd about showing you invites as ignoring it was quite rude and it does sound like some effort has been made between the girls to get on.

Tsc2011 · 04/02/2024 13:41

Thanks everyone. I’ve just responded that my DD hadn’t told us about the party and has just shown us the invite but she won’t be able to go, and I’ve left it at that.

I’m finding it’s difficult to judge sometimes what is protecting your child and interfering too much but I really don’t trust these women (or their kids who are still crossing the line of what’s acceptable on occasion).

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Louise0808 · 04/02/2024 13:47

I wouldnt allow my child to go. The kids or parents do not sound very trustworthy to leave your child with. You did the right thing.

DinnaeFashYersel · 04/02/2024 13:56

If daughter wants to go accept the invite. If she doesn't then decline.

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 04/02/2024 14:07

I think you did exactly the right thing - prior engagement, no further reason.

It wouldn't surprise me if this was premeditated and designed to cause major hurt to your DD.

What those girls said is beyond terrible and should be taken very seriously by the school. I'm really upset the girls have not been served with temporary exclusions for saying someone should kill themselves. The school should also have asked the mother to stand down from the PTA. I'd be tempted to ask what were their investigations in relation to that comment. If not good enough, I'd raise with Ofsted so the SLT get hauled over the coals. Not OK.

SandyWaves · 04/02/2024 14:28

If you read your post back, it seems incredible that you would even consider your child being alone with these people. She's 8 years old and children are telling another to kill themselves.

I wouldn't have responded at all.

I'd be very sceptical about this being a genuine invite and not a 'drop off so we can cause more misery'.

ChaToilLeam · 04/02/2024 14:31

No way should your child go anywhere near that house! The parents sound frankly nuts.

Tsc2011 · 04/02/2024 14:33

@AtomHeartMotherOfGod before leaving the classroom WhatsApp group the PTA mum actually told everyone in her final rant that her child has been accused many times of being a bully, that she feels that school is very protective of her child and that if others didn’t feel the same they should all withdraw their kids (this is a school that’s struggling to attract enough children). I’m sure the governors wouldn’t be thrilled by this but we’ve found the school barely acts on any concerns raised so they’d do nothing about it. We’re hoping to move before the next academic year so I’ve not raised this part with the school but we’re keeping a close eye on my DD and keep encouraging her to stay away from them.

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olympicsrock · 04/02/2024 14:37

Totally right not to attend. We also voted with our feet when invited to a family party hosted by the family of DC’s bully.

BoohooWoohoo · 04/02/2024 14:40

I would decline this party and any future invites plus not invite to my child’s party too.

Sometimes it’s best to give a wide berth rather than a peace of your mind. Some people enjoy drama and it’s good for your dd to learn to swerve this kind of character.

Morecatsarebetter · 04/02/2024 14:42

Eight year olds threatening to stab each other??? What a world we live in

LynetteScavo · 04/02/2024 14:47

I'm shocked the school isn't addressing the threats of stabbing, but that aside I think you've given a very appropriate response. If I were feeling brave, and the occasion arose I might also have a face to face conversation with the mother saying that no way would I be leaving my child in her care.

I hope your DD has a much more positive experience in her next school! Flowers

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