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31 Jan XL dogs still not always muzzled in public

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EveryoneEnviesMeEverywhere · 31/01/2024 21:14

Near a primary school in London, I saw a lady walking his very large XL Bully dog that was UNMUZZELED. The dog was on one of those extending leashes that I doubt could manage a dog of that size. and I doubt the lady could mange the big dog is the dog decided to run at someone or another dog. The schools finish for the day around that time. I was disgusted by the blatant breach of the law and would have rang the non-emergency police number but I could not work out which house he went into as he kept on giving death stares to people who were looking at him, namely some parents on their way to pick up their 4/5-year-olds.

I just had a chat with my OH and we both agreed these dogs are potentially dangerous, hence the new laws rightly so. We therefore decided to report them and just did that.

We both believe we are doing a public service as often people that take these dogs for a walk don't appear to be capable of handling the big dog/s if the dogs decide to go for another dog or even a human. Sadly we've seen and heard a lot about this kind of thing that has resulted in the new laws

I wish I had the guts to film her or at least walk a bit closer (I was fearful of the dog) right behind her and see what door he entered

(For the record the dog appeared to be behaving but they are alert and look around at everything and to me it looks scary. I guess if I had own own little dog I would not be scared but we would not keep one as I know it is a full-time job as dogs should be treated like family)

AIBU.
Report this brazen lawbreaker. IMO, if more of us reported incidents like this, our towns/cities and all public areas would be a lot safer for all of us.

I genuinely fear dogs on the whole especially big ones of the bully types especially and those little ankle snappers. On the whole, from what I have seen in parks and on walks, the Labrador-type dogs are pretty down-to-earth creatures and I don't mind them. from a distance (I know many out there love dogs, especially their own dog/pet rightly so, but please do not forget not everyone likes a dog running up to them and sniffing them etc)

(Slightly different but loose dogs in parks, any types of dogs that are allowed to run up to you, your baby etc I find really scary and often the owners could not care less. IMO, all dogs should be on a leash in public and not those stupid leads that extend by 30 feet or so)

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Missingmyusername · 31/01/2024 22:38

VanilleA · 31/01/2024 22:34

could not work out which house he went into as he kept on giving death stares to people who were looking at him who the dog? Or the lady who has decided to be a him?

I doubt it’s even true.

DaisyDaffodil · 31/01/2024 22:41

It’s probably identifying as a chihuahua/Jack Russell/Pomeranian.

WiddlinDiddlin · 01/02/2024 03:36

BobbyBiscuits · 31/01/2024 22:14

You reported them for it. So there you go, you've done what you can. I certainly wouldn't confront them about it. It's worth noting that you can't really say, in any meaningful way, that any dog is inherently more dangerous now than it was a few months ago prior to the ban. If anything the most dangerous/ un-cared for ones would probably have been euthenised post ban as there was a payment of £200 for people agreeing to that.
I would say unless I see a dog acting aggressively, I would just ignore it and assume it was under control and trained sufficiently to be out in public. I guess I'm not scared of dogs though so it's a bit different.

Unlikely.

Firstly it costs more than £200 to euth a dog of that sort of size and many vets were refusing to do it because vets that are euthing XL's are getting a lot of abuse, damaging their businesses. (Not to mention the toll on mental health for vets, a serious consideration given the high suicide rate among vets anyway).

Secondly, the most dangerous XL bullies belong to either the type of people who are intentional criminals, who enjoy intimidating and scaring people, who purposely own an XL in order to frighten, control and harm others...

Or they are fucking morons who haven't a clue how to house, handle, raise and train a dog properly, so the dogs they own are unsocialised, trained very badly with methods that increase the risk of aggressive behaviour towards strangers, hyper-aroused behaviour in stressful situations, or just not trained at all.

Neither camp will have euthed dogs, and most won't have exempted, they will just keep the dogs under lock and key in sheds and sheltered yards and back bedrooms and cellars and walk them after dark... until something in that management goes tits up and either someone within their home gets killed on the property or the dog escapes and bites someone out in public.

Not dramatic, this is exactly what happened with the pitbull ban.

EveryoneEnviesMeEverywhere · 01/02/2024 09:55

LittleGreenDragons · 31/01/2024 22:34

IMO a licence should be required for all potential dog owners to see if they are a fit persons to manage looking after a dog caring and loving way.

All dogs used to be licensed. It didn't stop people abusing or neglecting them or stop attacks on people.

Never mind muzzling XL dogs in public, new cast this morning is saying 10,00 dogs not registered by deadline

Re licence, thanks I am aware but I was refering to the owners being assesed

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EveryoneEnviesMeEverywhere · 17/02/2024 12:13

It's a lot more than 10k unregistered according to some reports

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