DockATot or Purflo - Husband and i can't agree?

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Hoping to gain some useful and practical advice from those of you who are more experienced than I.

Expecting our precious and long awaited 1st baby in August, and although myself and DH agree on most things, we can't agree on the topic of a DockATot or Purflo nest.

We both want to use one, as we had so many friends tell us that they are amazing, and we would like to use one for co-sleeping.

[Yes to have read all the info about the Lullaby trust warning, but we are confident in our own research and choices, so this thread isn't about that]

I would like yo go with DockATot as it's far more attractive, and I like the spare covers, and also the Cabana kit attachment as we are having a summer baby, and I feel this will be really useful.

DH would like a purflo as it clearly states on the website that is is 'safe for overnight sleep' but my understanding was that none of these products are 'officially' safe for overnight sleep, so what's the difference between Purflo and DockATot? AIBU for wanting the 'more attractive' brand or should we go for the brand that makes the bolder safety claims?

DockATot has been named in numerous baby deaths. Please look into the safe sleep 7. These products are not safe for cosleeping in

The dock-a-tot has been banned in a lot of countries including the USA and Canada because it’s that unsafe. Yes friends may have used them (they were popular when I had my now 6.5YO) but we know better now. It’s up there with our parents putting us to sleep on our fronts- of course they had our best interests at heart but we know more about safe infant sleep now so should forget about outdated practices. The Purflo looks better, on the basis that it’s breathable but I’d still go for the safest possible thing first; an empty crib with a firm mattress. If you have a fussy velcro baby that hates being put down then consider other options. There’s next day delivery!

It is safest to bedshare with your baby with them on the flat, firm surface of the bed with you, with mum sleeping in the cuddle curl position around them and following the safe sleep 7 for bedsharing. That is the only way you should consider bedsharing. I cannot think of any research that suggests using a nest is as safe as this.

We used a sleepyhead for our first DC when he was lying in the lounge (not overnight) and a purflo for the 2nd. They didnt use moses baskets. Sleepyhead is more substantial. I dont think either is safe/safer than the other for overnight or cosleeping. I'd get the dockatot with spare covers for my first as it's nicer and he purflo is flimsy so depends where you want to use it. There's a big price difference between the 2.

Please look at the lullaby trust safe sleep guidelines. These products are not safe and there is a risk of death.

Both absolutely fine - for supervised sleeping. Please read up about the safe 7 for cosleeping, you have lots of time to sort out a great safe sleep space for your LO! Maybe get a dockatot for downstairs supervised naps? Firm mattress with no sides/bedding is best for upstairs sleeping when you'll be asleep too (or of course a next2me/moses basket).

both unnecessary silly items. a moses basket/ bassinet is the most you will need and if you want to bed share should be on the flat mattress

‘Yes to have read all the info about the Lullaby trust warning, but we are confident in our own research and choices, so this thread isn't about that]’

Please don’t use a nest for co-sleeping. No research shows that they are safe, they’re only ok for supervised sleep. It’s absolutely not worth the risk.

i agree with neither tbh. Do you mean that you are planning to use them for overnight sleeping too? Or just supervised naps?

Precious and long awaited baby deserves somewhere safe to sleep. Bedsharing is brilliant but this isn't the way to do it.

YABVU. Neither of them are safe for any sleep - supervised or otherwise.

Do not risk your baby’s life with such a cavalier attitude.

This is so silly! These aren't safe, so why on earth would you buy one. A moses basket, a carry cot (if advertised as a safe sleep space), a bassinet are all safe alternatives.

Also you've done your own research... The lullaby trust evolved from a charity that has been looking into SIDS for decades. Their advice is all evidence based and has coincided with a massive reduction in baby deaths during the last 30 years. Yet for some reason you think that your research trumps this. It's unbelievable really!!

I co slept with all of mine. No blankets, baby on firm mattress with me wrapped around them.

So many other things to waste your money on than these!

[Yes to have read all the info about the Lullaby trust warning, but we are confident in our own research and choices, so this thread isn't about that]

Honestly Im not sure you have, because why on earth would you after numerous warnings from several sources and official data choose to willingly put your baby in this.

The thread has to be about this as people are not going to morally recommenced something to you knowing that it is quite frankly dangerous.

If you want to try co-sleeping then there are safer ways than using these types of products. We bought a big hospital type blanket to use instead of a duvet, it was breathable if it went over his face (this was the thing I was most concerned with when it came to co-sleeping).
You’re very aware of your baby so as long as you haven’t had alcohol or medication you won’t roll onto them (and obviously it’s not safe to co-sleep at all in those circumstances even with a baby ‘nest’).

So if you just want it for supervised sleep then get the more aesthetically pleasing one. If you’re using it for overnight sleep/unsupervised naps then either is a potential risk.

Wouldn't touch either with a bargepole tbh. I personally hated cosleeping, but it can be done safely and works really well for some families, so make sure you know how to do that safely. We had a next to me which was fine.

Purflow - we have both and if u shove your face in both its really clear that the purflow is easy to breath through whereas the dockatot isn't.
There are numerous purflow covers and designs available, but also you won't care what it looks like after 1 week of novelty has worn off.
I preferred it for co creeping 1) my baby preferred being in it than on the bed and also by having a rim around him, I felt safer knowing I wasn't going to roll, or risk of getting any covers etc on him at all when I was unconscious.