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Sundaysunshine22 · 29/01/2024 10:56

I start a new role next month. When I was appointed, I managed to negotiate my salary. It didn't have any line management responsibilities at that time. They've now asked whether I will line manage a team of three assistants. I'm very new to being senior enough to negotiate my salary so I don't know what good practice is. But if I say yes, it adds a whole other layer of responsibilities I didn't bargain for (whilst being good for me still because I want to improve and grow). But I wonder, would people ordinarily ask for their agreed salary to be reviewed on that basis or for instance, say can it be reviewed after my probation? Or is it just seen as really cheeky before you've even started the job!

Any views from people would be really helpful!

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AllEars112232 · 29/01/2024 11:13

I would definitely go back and negotiate again. They have changed the job description significantly, that deserves more compensation.

Neriah · 29/01/2024 11:14

I think it's fair enough to ask whether the addiitonal responsibility will be reflected in a higher salary, as long as you know what your answer will be if they say no. TBF they may well be looking at adding this because they have already increased the salary.

senua · 29/01/2024 11:20

But I wonder, would people ordinarily ask for their agreed salary to be reviewed on that basis or for instance, say can it be reviewed after my probation? Or is it just seen as really cheeky before you've even started the job!
It's really cheeky of them!
They offered a job and you accepted it. They can't then change the job description! Are they hoping that you are, in effect, in limbo because you have handed in notice on current job but haven't yet started in new job and this means that they can play dirty tricks.

Neriah · 29/01/2024 12:10

They can't then change the job description!

Of course they can. Employers change JD's all the time. It might be poor practice to doo so in this way, but they can do it.

senua · 29/01/2024 12:17

Neriah · 29/01/2024 12:10

They can't then change the job description!

Of course they can. Employers change JD's all the time. It might be poor practice to doo so in this way, but they can do it.

It's a contract. They made an offer and OP accepted it so it's legally binding. They can't unilaterally change it. GOV.UK

Changing an employment contract

How employment contracts can be changed, problems with changes and breach of contract

https://www.gov.uk/your-employment-contract-how-it-can-be-changed

Neriah · 29/01/2024 12:37

(a) Job descriptions are not generally contractual
(b) They can withdraw the job offer anyway
(c) IF it were contractual, then yes they can still change it - there is legal provision for employers to change contractual terms if they cannot reach an agreement with employees, and provided that the employer follows that process they can easily change contractual terms; and it is rare that a tribunal supports the employee in these situations. Not that the OP had a leg to stand on because they couldn't make a claim anyway for TWO YEARS!

My answer is based on the actual law, not bite-size fripperies. They can change a job description.

BouncingJAS · 29/01/2024 12:42

OP,

That is a huge change. You will be managing a team of people.

They can ask for this, but you are under no obligation to accept the same salary given the additional responsibilities. This pretty much always comes with a promotion/salary bump.

If you like this organisation, I would negotiate an increase by comparing against salary surveys of your position with direct reports.

Sundaysunshine22 · 29/01/2024 12:53

Thanks all for the advice. I understand I don't have to accept taking on the team and I really do want this job! I start in three weeks. I suppose it's always hard to broach salary. I've got a call scheduled with my new boss so I might wrap salary up into broader development questions like learning opportunities, going on a management course etc.

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Invisimamma · 29/01/2024 13:01

Sundaysunshine22 · 29/01/2024 12:53

Thanks all for the advice. I understand I don't have to accept taking on the team and I really do want this job! I start in three weeks. I suppose it's always hard to broach salary. I've got a call scheduled with my new boss so I might wrap salary up into broader development questions like learning opportunities, going on a management course etc.

I'd be more direct than that, something like 'adding this additional responsibility is a significant change to the role I interviewed for, can we discuss renumeration to match the level of responsibility?'

It takes a bit of confidence but go for it!

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 29/01/2024 16:16

Invisimamma · 29/01/2024 13:01

I'd be more direct than that, something like 'adding this additional responsibility is a significant change to the role I interviewed for, can we discuss renumeration to match the level of responsibility?'

It takes a bit of confidence but go for it!

Except use remuneration Wink

Otherwise I agree with this.

Oblomov23 · 29/01/2024 16:17

Be more direct, use the wording pp's have suggested.

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