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I know it’s stealing….but…..

393 replies

VidalSass · 26/01/2024 00:32

Im going to be Annihilated here……

i took out a store card to pay for a large tech purchase, interest free, over 36months. This was four months ago

I set up a direct debit straight away for the monthly payment and then cut up the card.

I checked my account and noted direct debit not come out, so I logged on to the store card account and the charge is still ‘pending’ - therefore minimum payment is 0 as the charge has not been processed by the merchant.

would I be unreasonable to just ignore it and therefore avoid the repayments? Surely it would eventually just be cancelled? Although it’s already sat there for four months….

i don’t want to call the merchant as obviously they will then just process the charge…..

im worries that eventually it would just be charged but a part of me is excited at the thought that an error may have occurred resulting in me getting free stuff. I know it’s technically stealing but it’s a huge company (probably not paying corporation tax in the uk) and I’m not exactly rolling in it

AIBU - should call the merchant to process the charge and start paying it back

NBU - technically it’s stealing but fuck the man and ride the freebie wave

OP posts:
Ladyj84 · 26/01/2024 02:31

You reckon 99% would keep a million quid accidentally put into there account hmmm nobody I know would do that!

misssunshine4040 · 26/01/2024 02:34

Dita73 · 26/01/2024 02:24

I was once refunded twice for a tv I returned to John Lewis. They sent me an extra £1500. I thought about it for over a week and decided to do the decent thing and tell them. They said thank you and sent me a voucher for a free coffee in their cafe. I’ve been gutted ever since.

Grin a free coffee!!

VidalSass · 26/01/2024 02:35

Ladyj84 · 26/01/2024 02:31

You reckon 99% would keep a million quid accidentally put into there account hmmm nobody I know would do that!

Absolutely. If they thought they wouldn’t be found out, and they weren’t aware of negative impacts on anyone- yes I absolutely do.

would 99% of people admit that to themselves or others? Definitely not.

there are endless studies and research on how people THINK their morality stands and just how swiftly that changes when actually put in the real situation.

OP posts:
misssunshine4040 · 26/01/2024 02:38

This reply has been deleted

The OP has privacy concerns, so we've agreed to take this down now.

Then that would certainly be fraudulent.

They would argue the op would expect the balance on the card.

Op I would do nothing and wait. You wouldn't be unreasonable to not notice the DD debit coming out your bank for it so it's easy missed and the companies fault for not sorting their admin.

Tulipdot8 · 26/01/2024 02:39

It will catch up with you

TomeTome · 26/01/2024 02:41

I’d phone and pay and it wouldn’t be an option for me to do otherwise. Be the person you want to be.

Bournetilly · 26/01/2024 02:56

I wouldn’t ring but would save the money just incase as chances are you will be charged.

I’d be worried about the interest free period ending without it being paid for and them charging interest though.

Also I think the majority of people would contact the bank if they were deposited 1 million by accident.

Geppili · 26/01/2024 02:59

caveat vendor.

AgentJohnson · 26/01/2024 02:59

Someone somewhere has made a mistake and eventually it will come to light. The sticking it to a big corporation is bs to justify not paying. You have something and you know you haven’t paid for it, your intent when you made the purchase doesn’t mean anything, your actions now, does.

It’s probably a glitch that will probably rectify itself but that doesn’t mean you can’t be proactive.

Cailleachian · 26/01/2024 03:03

On the face of it, I dont think you are being unreasonable. You have done everything required of you, it is them who have not taken the money and there is no obligation for you to do their admin for them, BUT, there is a risk that they may come at the end of the interest free period and demand the full payment + interest.

And if it turns out that the DD has been setup incorrectly, they are entitled to the money + interest, which is probably more than you would gain by sticking the money in a high interest saving account.

justanotherusername22 · 26/01/2024 03:06

Now I know where mumsnetters suddenly don't give a damn about laws and morality....

Contact them and pay.....

VidalSass · 26/01/2024 03:08

Cailleachian · 26/01/2024 03:03

On the face of it, I dont think you are being unreasonable. You have done everything required of you, it is them who have not taken the money and there is no obligation for you to do their admin for them, BUT, there is a risk that they may come at the end of the interest free period and demand the full payment + interest.

And if it turns out that the DD has been setup incorrectly, they are entitled to the money + interest, which is probably more than you would gain by sticking the money in a high interest saving account.

It’s definitely not the Direct debit.
the account balance shows £0, with a minimum required payment of £0.

on the transactions summary there is a ‘pending payment’ (the original charge). The date of which was the date of purchase four months ago.

OP posts:
StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 26/01/2024 03:11

gurnerandpooch · 26/01/2024 01:11

Mn is mean , nasty , vindictive, yet everyone is a moral saviour according to these threads ! Makes me laugh .

Like fuck would everyone own up to this . Sanctimonious shite .

I would without question. I have been at a checkout before and the cashier did not scan everything properly so I could have essentially got away with walking out with free clothes. But..I'm not like that and I am pretty much honest in everything I do. It's not sanctimonious, it's just being a decent and trustworthy person which is severely lacking in society.

Stressedafff · 26/01/2024 03:11

This happened to me years ago with a Next card. Keep an eye on it, with mine they never got in touch, never tried taking the DD but one day I randomly got a debt collectors letter. Had murders trying to sort it as it was their mistake.

Abi86 · 26/01/2024 03:28

It’s their issue if their processes have failed. It’s not your job to chase up their inability to complete a proper sale/transaction. I’d just wait for them to catch up in an audit, but if they don’t, that’s on them.

VidalSass · 26/01/2024 03:48

StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 26/01/2024 03:11

I would without question. I have been at a checkout before and the cashier did not scan everything properly so I could have essentially got away with walking out with free clothes. But..I'm not like that and I am pretty much honest in everything I do. It's not sanctimonious, it's just being a decent and trustworthy person which is severely lacking in society.

But this a different scenario completely.

if, three months later you discovered the receipt in your handbag, at this point realises she had not charged you- would you go back and try to pay for the clothes?

OP posts:
StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance · 26/01/2024 04:03

@VidalSass It depends. If we are talking 20p then probably not but a substantial amount I would as I would feel guilty.

Roselilly36 · 26/01/2024 04:22

There process is rubbish that’s not your responsibility OP, keep quiet and see what happens.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 26/01/2024 04:23

You’re very naïve if you think they won’t notice. They will.

Lwrenagain · 26/01/2024 04:27

This kind of thing always happens to me, bloody always, I think "amazing!" And 2 months later I get a letter from a debt collector which leaves me raging 😤 😂

When it comes to massive corporations, my morals are nonexistent. Small business's I'd never, cold hard cash found in the street, I'm going to go hard to reunite with its rightful owner, but giant corporations? Fuck em 😂

Kittybythelighthouse · 26/01/2024 04:28

@IWouldRatherBeOnHoliday I agree with you. I hate having to chase companies up, do their admin for free, and sit on hold for ages because they’ve made a mistake. I don’t get paid for that lost time, and my time is valuable, so I refuse to do it unless I absolutely must.

crew2022 · 26/01/2024 04:32

I think transaction pending can stay for 6 months until it drops off your account
I would do as others say and save the amount each month so you can pay when they charge you which they undoubtedly will.
There is no free money, nor should there be.
Just don't kid yourself and end up not being able to pay what you owe, hence attracting more charges.

WandaWonder · 26/01/2024 04:35

Lwrenagain · 26/01/2024 04:27

This kind of thing always happens to me, bloody always, I think "amazing!" And 2 months later I get a letter from a debt collector which leaves me raging 😤 😂

When it comes to massive corporations, my morals are nonexistent. Small business's I'd never, cold hard cash found in the street, I'm going to go hard to reunite with its rightful owner, but giant corporations? Fuck em 😂

Why does that not surprise me

ThomasinaLivesHere · 26/01/2024 04:38

I imagine it will catch up with you.

I agree about it being the company's fault and the hassle dealing with admin. I once was sent hand wash i didn't order in a package from Boots. Since it probably cost under a £5 sending it back would have probably cost the same as the item but mainly i couldn't be bother with the hassle of the admin and just forgot about it. Never been properly tested.

PabloPawcasso · 26/01/2024 04:43

Moro93 · 26/01/2024 01:47

I’m genuinely curious, how long would people recommend saving the money for in a situation like this? Theoretically, they could contact for the money at any point during the 3 years or even afterwards if the mistake is realised.

If the OP saves every payment for 3 years, is she supposed to hold on to it, potentially forever, on the off chance they might realise? Presuming she won’t have the money to pay the cost of the item upfront without saving, otherwise she wouldn’t have taken the credit agreement.
If this is the case then she may as well contact and start making payments…

OP, put the monthly payments in a savings account (Santander have a good one at 5.08% interest. Nationwide do one at 8% interest for one year, capped at £200 deposit per month.) Keep the money for at least 6 years in case they ask for it, and accrue the interest in the meantime.