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To think most people have no idea how little HLTAs/Teaching Assistants earn?

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LorlieS · 25/01/2024 22:58

Anybody want to hazard a guess at the average monthly income of a ft HLTA/TA?

It really is quite shocking!

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Ilikebacon · 27/01/2024 20:53

Im a TA, I’m not sure what my annual salary is but my take home pay after deductions is £1351 per month.
Thats for 34.5 hours per week.
I think it’s quite reasonable for what I do.
I used to take home similar working 24 hours per week. Now I work 34.5 and I get 13 weeks off a year. Not to mention the amount the local authority pay into my pension.
In my previous job, I worked twice as hard for the same pay and only 5% of my income was paid into my pension. The LA pay about 20% I think.

Ive seen some posts saying that TAs don’t get holiday pay. We get about 6 weeks but the pay gets spread across the year. So I work for 39 weeks a year but get paid for 45.

I love my job, haven’t been doing it long but so glad I made the move.

Cherrycola44 · 27/01/2024 21:32

I'm a TA. I take home £1,230 a month for a 30 hour week. On average I work an extra hour a day unpaid as I work through most of my lunch and come in a bit early.

Bertiesmum3 · 27/01/2024 21:33

whatsappdoc · 27/01/2024 20:44

7 weeks holiday pay! Not in my LA that's for sure

When I worked in a school, we got a lower hourly rate so that we got paid 12 months of the year, hourly rate and holiday pay worked out over the year

Bertiesmum3 · 27/01/2024 21:35

BarelyCoping123 · 27/01/2024 18:38

How do calculate that?

Hourly rates and the entitlement for holiday pay are added together and divided by 12, so that you take home the same every month,

JessM1973 · 27/01/2024 21:44

This is because most wages are advertised pro rata. £22k is based on 39 hours per week, 52 weeks of the year. Most TA jobs are 24-27 hours per week, 39-44 weeks per year.x

FcukTheDay · 27/01/2024 21:49

I earn 877 per month. I have to teach the class one day a week, alone, while my class teacher gets their day PPA time as they're SLT. On the other days, I teach phonics for an hour a day for mixed year groups and oh I also 1-1 with the ECHP/HNF children in my class. If it wasn't for the children then I wouldn't do it.

LorlieS · 27/01/2024 21:51

@FcukTheDay Exactly why I'm quitting my HLTA role. We are, in essence, ridiculously cheap supply teachers now.

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BarelyCoping123 · 27/01/2024 21:56

@Bertiesmum3 I know how annual pay works - obviously I meant how do you calculate that TAs "have 15/16 weeks off!!!"?

ArnieLinson · 27/01/2024 21:56

TeachesOfPeaches · 26/01/2024 06:22

Presumably they are then topped up with tax credits?

this. What is the amount of tc per month?

Bertiesmum3 · 27/01/2024 21:58

BarelyCoping123 · 27/01/2024 21:56

@Bertiesmum3 I know how annual pay works - obviously I meant how do you calculate that TAs "have 15/16 weeks off!!!"?

Christmas Easter summer whitsun February/October half term, bank holidays

Bertiesmum3 · 27/01/2024 21:59

LorlieS · 27/01/2024 21:51

@FcukTheDay Exactly why I'm quitting my HLTA role. We are, in essence, ridiculously cheap supply teachers now.

Also free child care!

SquirrelHash · 27/01/2024 22:00

It's one of those roles you have to weigh up the pros and cons of really.

Pros are that you should be able to work to rule, mostly; in a way a teacher cannot (there are things like marking that are simply part of discharging their professional duties) - save for the odd bit of laminating at the end of your break before the bell goes you shouldn't really be having to go too above an beyond.

It is a shortish work day compared to someone who starts at 8:30 and is thinking about leaving the office at 5:30 pm. You are paid accordingly but should be able to plan your family life or just your life in general around this. For some people, it would mean they could go to the gym 5 days a week or socialise when they otherwise could not, but it's easy to take it for granted when it becomes your normal work day.

You can park your car on site. Nurses and health care assistants in hospitals can sometimes be on similar payscales but don't have this perk. In the same way dispensing chemists (from the other thread about pay) don't necessarily if they work in a city centre chemist.

Personally I work in an office in a school and that's perfect for me. It's more my kind of work and I can eat drink and pee when I want. I don't have to go outside in the elements, work very locally to where I live, can park my car outside my office window and it's like being part of a big family. I could earn more money in a different office job, but I get all the holidays and I'm out the door at 4pm so it's just great, and you still have that feeling of making a difference and helping people in a community-focused role.

I think LSAs can get "stitched up" easily - sorry, you're not going to the farm today, you have to 1:1 this kid because his 1:1 is off. Or sorry you have to do forest school, shame you wore your nice shoes and blowdryed your hair this morning. Oh and next year we are putting you in that class with that teacher and those pupils, etc.

The tension felt at the time of year when SLT have decided where to put whom and haven't yet told them is really something. I love knowing what my workstream will look like!

I'd like to see all school support staff on at least a scale 6 but really the thing holding the pay back is the hours worked - with the short day and the long holiday, it's always going to be part-time.

But you never have to work weekends or Christmas day or shifts for that matter and I do think that's what's stopping most heading to retail jobs...

LorlieS · 27/01/2024 22:03

@FcukTheDay Absolutely! I teach two days a week and the amount of parents who consistently rock up at 3.45 is unbelievable!!

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PaperDoIIs · 27/01/2024 22:11

Christmas Easter summer whitsun February/October half term, bank holidays

Two weeks , two weeks , six weeks, one week , one week , one week (you forgot the may one) . That's 13 weeks . Maybe an extra week ( rarely two) with odd days added and bank holidays. How does it add up to 15/16 a year?

And we're not paid for all of them anyway. I get paid only for 44 weeks a year.

Nbo · 27/01/2024 22:11

I’m at Ta 3 at a sen school and work 32.5 hours a week. My yearly salary before tax and NI is £22500.00
not sure where some of the 10k per year is coming from

LorlieS · 27/01/2024 22:16

@Nbo You must get a considerable SEN allowance. Whereabouts are you based?

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BarelyCoping123 · 27/01/2024 22:16

Christmas Easter summer whitsun February/October half term, bank holidays

@Bertiesmum3
How do these equal 15/16 weeks? (Note that most if not all Bank holidays fall within those other breaks)

BarelyCoping123 · 27/01/2024 22:22

@ArnieLinson are you aware that tax credits don't exist anymore? (Aside from legacy ones) Universal credit is very different

PaperDoIIs · 27/01/2024 22:22

Nbo · 27/01/2024 22:11

I’m at Ta 3 at a sen school and work 32.5 hours a week. My yearly salary before tax and NI is £22500.00
not sure where some of the 10k per year is coming from

17k here for the same hours. That's after going up the scale and a few payrises.

2019 I was on 12k.

SmudgeButt · 27/01/2024 22:32

Are we having a run on "you'd be shocked at how much XX earn!" tonight?

Has anyone asked how much someone earns working at a food bank??

DianaBarry5 · 27/01/2024 22:34

37 hours here. Year 6 TA. I come out with 1,544 a month

LorlieS · 27/01/2024 22:35

@SmudgeButt Do people working in food banks regularly teach classes of 30 children unsupported?

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PaperDoIIs · 27/01/2024 22:39

SmudgeButt · 27/01/2024 22:32

Are we having a run on "you'd be shocked at how much XX earn!" tonight?

Has anyone asked how much someone earns working at a food bank??

About the same I "earned" working for Oxfam?Grin

KissMyArt · 27/01/2024 22:42

LorlieS · 26/01/2024 19:41

@KissMyArt Where exactly did I say I needed more money to support my family? I do that very well (on a tight budget) with no additional government support. I do, however, have a 3 yo so need to work around her.
There is a lot of disdain it would appear on MN for families who aren’t high earners?
I would rather a lower-paid partner who is an incredibly hands-on dad and husband than a wealthy one who works all the hours, is in a state of constant work stress and never has time for his family.
Personally speaking though, of course 😀

I'm not seeing any 'disdain' for families who aren't high earners at all?

What I'm seeing is irritation at you whinging about your pay packet, when you're perfectly happy with your part-time hours and being able to work around your DC.

Maybe once your DC are older and you can find something full-time your pay will improve.

But for now you are where you are in terms of earning potential and by the sound of it, happy to stick with the job.

Tiredmama53 · 27/01/2024 22:43

When I worked as a TA I arrived 20 minutes before the kids and left the same time, it's not like a teacher where you have to plan and stuff so I never considered it full time especially with all the holidays which again aside from inset days I got as support staff whereas teachers don't. It was really easy to get tutoring and babysitting jobs that bumped it up to a decent wage and more like full time hours. I actually made more being a TA with babysitting than I did the job after that that required both a degree and masters and was significantly harder and with longer hours.