Me, Myself and Yourselfs

[CactusMactus]

Can't watch The Traitors anymore because everyone says "myself" when they mean 'me" and yourself/s" when they mean "you". Driving me (myself?) up the bloody wall!

Indeed. It's definitely estate-agent speak. I can only guess that anybody who uses -self, -selves thinks it makes them sound more educated or intelligent, rather than the opposite.
Please don't get me started on 'your good selves.' 🙄

I and me is easy to remember - just take away the other person.

So "Daisy and I will get the train" is correct as if you take away Daisy you are left with "I will get the train" which is correnct.

Whereas -"the conductor gave Daisy and me a fine for not having the right ticket" is correct because if you take away Daisy you are left with "the conductor gave me a fine for not having the right ticket"

I is the nominative (eg subject) whereas me is the dative (eg indirect object

I know how to use it, Ginmonkey. I’d never write it incorrectly.

It slips out when I’m speaking- Bill asked Fred and I to go.

So I’m fine with the subject, but occasionally slip up colloquially with the object.

@Ginmonkeyagain
I agree that it's easy and yet, when I was teaching in a 'top' independent school, I would see notices in the staff room "Please speak with Daisy or I about...".

My urge to correct 'with' and 'I' with my red pen (I think those are probably banned now) required much self control. Plus I might have been caught in the act!!

I can't help but comment on this everytime I watch the traitors. I drives me mad. Thankfully I don't watch the apprentice so am spared listening to it there too. Married at first sight has lots of people that do this too.

I am a complete hypocrite though as I know I almost always use me rather than I in my speech, even when I is appropriate. I think it's a throw back to where I grew up. Using 'Tom & I' would have been judged as pretending to be posh so it's just not something that comes naturally to me to say. Strangely, I will always write it correctly though. I have noticed more and more people saying I when it should be me though (so opposite of what I do). This also grates on hypocritical me.

Poor spoken grammar makes my hackles rise. I immediately classify the speaker as being a bit thick. I know this makes me a bad person.

John Torode is one of the worst ones with "Gregg and I", e.g "Bring your plate up to Gregg and I". He says it constantly regardless of context.

@pickledandpuzzled Oh indeed. I also interchange between both words in normal speech. English is a language that it is easy to be understood in and is relatively forgiving of the "wrong" grammar.

I am currently on a mission to improve my French grammar, so am probably thinking too closely about these things!

That’s particularly poor because it’s a predictable phrase he uses a lot. He could choose to correct that as it isn’t used spontaneously.

pickledandpuzzled. I think he thinks he sounds intelligent. If only he knew.

If he only knew 😄

But the way they use it seems entirely different and sounds fine. Maybe it's the accent!

In English English it sounds ridiculous

I am going to town.
Jo and I are going to town.

YANBU to find it very annoying but YABU to stop watching Traitors because of it because it's one of the few really good things to watch on TV

That's colloquial Scottish (Glaswegian?)

Again I don't mind that.

It sounds ridiculous with a London accent

One of my colleagues sent an email today saying 'I have been trying to get hold of yourself to discuss this'

What the absolute fuck. Where did that even come from!? On what planet does that sound correct? It made me cringe that this is in a professional email to a client

As far as I'm concerned it's unintelligible!

I'll just stick with knowing it's wrong!

And what about if you are asking someone to join you and Jo going to town?

Which is of course the question I should have asked in the first place😀

I've heard atrocities such as "Give it to myself" on courses and each time, it's made me want to just leave!

Jo and I are going to town. Would you like to come?

😊

"Do you want to come to town with Jo and me?" It's easy - just imagine what you'd say if Jo were not coming along.

😂

It does my heart good to see people using me correctly instead of the ubiquitous "I".

Totally agree! What’s really annoying in my work is that the senior person there does this and so other people follow, even when I use it correctly.

In an email I would say 'I will attend the meeting' Not me will attend the meeting.
If responding verbally and asked who will attend the meeting I might say me, or I will. Both are correct.
So depending on the context both sentences are correct ' Steve and I will attend' ' ' it will be me and Steve who attend'
But never myself and Steve!